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"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 09:30am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#1 of 1135)
Wow, that other board is trashed.
Full moon last night?
Da Thrilla! [CooterBrown] - 09:33am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#2 of 1135)
No comment. ;-)
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 09:36am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#3 of 1135)
Hiya Sweetie, how's life in the fast lane?
[Snow Pea] - 10:39am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#4 of 1135)
Good move, Sherrie. I've been trying to think about what to say about what happened there last night. But I figure now it's best to
just let it slip away.
Da Thrilla! [CooterBrown] - 11:04am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#5 of 1135)
Sher hon, if I knew where the fast lane was, I'd tell ya!
I've got it on my list to try to download the AOL thingy again. It started once after I used Netscape, but quit on me. I'll sacrifice a
chicken this time.
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 11:48am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#6 of 1135)
For those concerned about cliques... there's a thread to discuss it on.... let's leave Dave's thread out of it. .. Go here..
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 11:55am Jun 25, 1998 EST (#7 of 1135)
bump to move the new thread ahead of the old.
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 01:23pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#8 of 1135)
another bump to move the new thread ahead of the old.
[rio dee] - 01:28pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#9 of 1135)
There you see a perfect example of the typical content of the posts here: endlessly repeating the same thing.
Go on do your thing Joll... beats having to think doesn't it?
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 01:38pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#10 of
1135)
rio dee? Anyone have any clue who rio dee is? Anyone care?
[rio dee] - 01:44pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#11 of 1135)
This of course belies what you said in the cliques thread: "When I see a new poster I think I'm very friendly, ""jollyollie -
01:00pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#7 of 11)""
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 01:49pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#12 of
1135)
You are not new rio dee and you chose to insult me. But even if you were new, I ain't going to roll over either. BTW: you decry
the lack of political debate... I just scanned the threads, I fail to see any substantive, thoughtful contributions you've made. The
day is young, you want to post meaningfully and political, spend less time insulting me.
"Your catch phrase here" Send $4.95 per post to.. [Johnnyba] - 01:52pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#13 of 1135)
Sigh, here we go again. Ca'nt we all just get along?
[SCSFUL] - 02:07pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#14 of 1135)
Stop IT! Just STOP IT!
For crying out loud. I was called the child yesterday...good grief! I might be one of the younger posters but this is CRAP! This is
getting everyone nowhere fast.
My child care experience is tempting me to put all of you in "time out"!
Get over it. It's over. Now move on. Someone please bring a new topic of interest to debate. I'm going to go look for one.
This is really disheartening.
[SCSFUL] - 02:34pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#15 of 1135)
Did we ever find out who the Mets were? Aren't they a baseball team?
David Luckie [LuckieBoy] - 02:41pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#16 of 1135)
Whatever happened to Marcus? I was away for much of the winter and spring, and when I came back, no Marcus.
Another question:
When are we going to get to search these boards?!?
"Your catch phrase here" Send $4.95 per post to.. [Johnnyba] - 02:45pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#17 of 1135)
I think the Mets are a 60's one hit wonder doing the oldies circut now a days.
Da Thrilla! [CooterBrown] - 03:13pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#18 of 1135)
I did a search Sarah, and it turns out that they are a baseball team. I apologize for thinking they were a hot dog. ;-)
"Your catch phrase here" Send $4.95 per post to.. [Johnnyba] - 03:58pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#19 of 1135)
Hey Dave, its awfully hard to get through latley. Are you having tech. trouble?
[_Liz_] - 05:15pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#20 of 1135)
But even if you were new, I ain't going to roll over either.<
Funny. That's just what Dun said last night.
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 05:32pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#21 of
1135)
point is?
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 05:37pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#22 of 1135)
David Luckie: Good to see you back, LuckyBoy.
Marcus: He was given a pink slip by Pathfinder. We think it was because too many people complained about him.
Ollie: Why are people attacking you? If people can't get along with you, I don't know if they can get along with anyone.
It looks to me like dunite had a bout of PMS last night. Or else insomnia made her go over the edge. She was definitely spoiling
for a fight. (Now people will start attacking me.)
Imperceptible [Crimson] - 05:38pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#23 of 1135)
Ah but you can handle it, can't ya, GW? *G*
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 05:41pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#24 of
1135)
I hadn't realized it was David Luckie! I musta missed it! Say David, I posted as "Jim O" back during the 96 election!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 05:56pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#25 of 1135)
Crimson: I survived my wars with Jim Bennett (remember him?). I can handle anything.
Imperceptible [Crimson] - 05:58pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#26 of 1135)
LOL, GW, I remember! But, I can't remember....was there alot of 'now, now children, behave", then? That I don't remember. :)
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 06:03pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#27 of
1135)
That's an old old one, even before my time.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 06:05pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#28 of 1135)
Crimson: Jim Bennett was also known as Oregon Jim, as you remember. He was probably the wildest person who ever posted
here.
I started out loathing him and wound up liking him.
Õ ¿ Õ "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind". [jollyollie] - 06:07pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#29 of
1135)
me too.
Imperceptible [Crimson] - 06:09pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#30 of 1135)
I know GW, *G*. It CAN get pretty roudy around here still, but it's still lacking something for OJ's absence. What I miss is the
IRONY that he could load a post with. Whoosh! Right over the other poster's head (although you do QUITE nicely yourself! *G*).
I love it.
he Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 07:23pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#31 of 1135)
Hey y'all! What up?
Typical Iconoclast. [TireBiter] - 08:18pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#32 of 1135)
Screw you all.
Or not.
[_Liz_] - 08:21pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#33 of 1135)
The name of this place reminds me of a creepy little rhyme Stephen King built a novel on:
"Late last night and the night before,
Tommyknockers, Tommyknockers knocking at my door.
Want to go to sleep, don't know if I can,
Cause I'm so afraid of the Tommyknocker man."
Bleh.
Doin' a rain dance [CooterBrown] - 08:35pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#34 of 1135)
What the hell did I change my handle to? I can't remember!
(mutter, mutter. let's see.)
Typical Iconoclast. [TireBiter] - 08:38pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#35 of 1135)
Rubber Ducky?
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 08:42pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#36 of 1135)
Note: The kids probably won't understand this, but those of us who have served in the military will recognize this immediately!
US Air Force "Oath of Enlistment"
I, Zoomie, swear to sign away 4 years of my useless life to the United States Air Force because I know I couldn't hack it in the
Army and because the Marines frighten me.
I swear to sit behind a desk and take credit for the work done by others more dedicated than me who take their job seriously. I
also swear not to do any form of real exercise, but promise to defend our bike riding test as a valid form of exercise. I swear to
uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, even though I believe myself to be above that. I promise to walk around
calling everyone by their first name because I know I'm not really in the military and I find it amusing to annoy the other
services.
I will have a better quality of life than those around me and will at all times be sure to make them aware of that fact. After
completion of my *snicker* "Basic Training", I will be a lean, mean, donut-eating, lazy-boy sitting,
civilian-wearing-blue-clothes, Chairborne Ranger. I will do no work unless someone is watching me (and it makes me look
good), will annoy those around me, and will go home early every day.
I consent to never getting promoted (EVER) and understand that all those whom I made fun of yesterday will probably outrank
me tomorrow. So help me God.
_______________________ Signature Date
=====================================================================
US Army "Oath of Enlistment"
I, Rambo, swear to sign away 4 years of my mediocre life to the United States Army because I couldn't score high enough on the
ASVAB to get into the Air Force, I'm not tough enough for the Marines, and the Navy won't take me because I can't swim.
I will wear camouflage every day and tuck my trousers in my boots because I can't figure out how to use blousing straps. I
promise to wear my uniform 24 hours a day even when I have a date. I will continue to tell myself that I am a fierce killing
machine because my Drill Sergeant told me I am.
I acknowledge the fact that I will make E-8 in my first year of service, and vow to maintain that it is because I scored perfect on
my PT test. After completion of Basic Training, I will attend a different Army school once every other month and return
knowing less than I did when I left.
On my first trip home after Boot Camp I will walk around like I am cool and propose to my 9th grade sweetheart. I will make my
wife stay home because if I let her out she might leave me for a smarter, better looking Air Force guy.
While at work, I will maintain a look of knowledge while getting absolutely nothing accomplished. I will arrive to work every
day at 1000 hrs because of morning PT and leave every day at 1300 to report back to the "COMPANY." I understand that I will
undergo no training whatsoever that will help me get a job upon separation, and will end up working construction with my
friends from high school. I will brag to everyone about the Army giving me $30,000 for college, but will be unable to use it
because I can't pass a placement exam. So help me God.
___________________________ Signature Date
=====================================================================
US Navy "Oath of Enlistment"
I, Top Gun, in lieu of going to prison, swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the United States Navy because I want to hang out
with Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," and because I
thought, "Hey, I like to swim... why not?"
I promise to wear clothing what went out of style in 1976 and to have my name stenciled on the butt of every pair of pants I
own.
I understand that I will be mistaken for the Good Humor man during the summer, and for Waffen SS during the winter. I will
strive to use a different language than the rest of the English speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover, and
head" when I really mean "floor, wall, hat, and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Navy acronyms, rank, and
insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense
whatsoever.
I will muster (whatever that is) at 0700 hrs every morning unless I am buddy-buddy with the Chief, in which case I will show
up around 0930 hrs. I vow to hone my coffee cup handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a kayak being tossed around
in a typhoon, and still not spill a drop. I consent to being promoted and subsequently busted at least twice per fiscal year. I
realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my
new-found "colleagues." So help me Neptune.
_______________________________ Signature Date
==========================D==========================================
US Marine Corps "Oath of Enlistment"
I, state name here, swear...uhhh...high-and-tight...*grunt* cammies...ugh...Air Force women... OORAH! So help me Corps.
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My name is Peter, otherwise known as . . . [Snow Pea] - 11:39pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#37 of 1135)
Ooops, ahhh, BUMP!
Time for this baby to take over.
Doin' a rain dance [CooterBrown] - 11:44pm Jun 25, 1998 EST (#38 of 1135)
LOL Sher!
[Rich Pasma] - 04:57am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#39 of 1135)
Dave,
From my perspective the most important part of your job is managing an attitude rather than a discussion. It is the attitude that
sets the table for discussion. Everybody knows this and it is OK.
As far as the recent flare up, I love it; it means that people care about something and are willing to participate. Fortunately I
doubt that you will lay any blame upon me for it.
As you know I make a lot of mistakes. As Liz tends to be a little bit of a bully I decided to stand up to her. In doing this I offered
the diplomatic way out of things by offering the card of being petty and vain. Although this card has been offered several
times, I fail to understand way nobody has taken it. To be honest I have to take responsibility for this.
Perhaps you are upset with me for publicly challenging you about the meaning of tone. This was a mistake that nobody
noticed. The bias you and your cohorts presented between the arguments between Liz and myself have been quite obvious.
Perhaps you do not feel this way. I am not one to put words into other peoples' mouths. If you want clarification on this it will
be provided.
Debate is about an attitude that has a foundation for discussion. Anything that distracts from this would best be called
manipulation. Is this so hard to understand? Maybe not. Understanding things is the first step in dealing with the opposition.
Perhaps I have missed the boat again.
RP, Rancho Cucamonga, CA
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 05:02am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#40 of 1135)
"...Perhaps you are upset with me for publicly challenging you about the meaning of tone..."
Somebody call Bill Maher at Politically Incorrect, I am beginning to think I have a candidate for Lifetime Achievement for the
Get Over Yourself Award.
"...Perhaps I have missed the boat again."
By George, he's GOT it.
eat the rich [Richos] - 09:15am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#41 of 1135)
Rich I agree with you about tone it is possible to get it loud and clear on these boards.
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 09:37am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#42 of 1135)
Ancient Writings
A team of archaeologists was excavating in Israel when they came upon a cave. Written on the wall of the cave were the
following symbols in order of appearance.
1. A woman
2. A donkey
3. A shovel
4. A fish
5. A Star of David
They decided that this was a unique find and the writings were at least more than three thousand years old. They chopped out
the piece of stone and had it brought to the museum where archaeologists from all over the world came to study the ancient
symbols.
They held a huge meeting after months of conferences to discuss what they could agree was the meaning of the markings. The
President of their society stood up and pointed at the first drawing and said:
"This looks like a woman. We can judge that this race was family oriented and held women in high esteem You can also tell they
were intelligent, as the next symbol resembles a donkey, so, they were smart enough to have animals help them till the soil.
The next drawing looks like a shovel of some sort, which means they even had tools to help them.
Even further proof of their high intelligence is the fish, which means that if they had a famine hit the earth, whereby the
food didn't grow, they would take to the sea for food.
The last symbol appears to be the Star of David which means they were evidently Hebrews."
The audience applauded enthusiastically and the President smiled and said, "I'm glad to see that you are all in full agreement
with our interpretations."
Suddenly, a little old man stood up in the back of the room and said, "I object to every word. The explanation of what the
writings say is quite simple. First of all, everyone knows that Hebrews don't read from left to right, but from right to left... Now,
look again... It now says:
"'Holy Mackerel, Dig The Ass On That Woman!'"
[Snow Pea] - 09:40am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#43 of 1135)
All right already, Rich. You're vain and petty. Happy now?
David Luckie [LuckieBoy] - 09:47am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#44 of 1135)
GW, Marcus got a pink slip because people complained about him?!? I ain't buyin it. I always thought Marcus to be highly
objective and fair. I'm sorry to see him gone.
Jim O! I knew there was something familiar about your posts. I guess this makes us both part of the "Old Timers Click," huh?
[rio dee] - 11:20am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#45 of 1135)
Actually, Luckie, nobody knows why Marcus is gone. GW realizes that his opinions is respected by a lot of folks and therefore
carries weight. So he passes the rumor he likes off as fact and if anyone calls him on it he will come back all pompously and
whine that he did not say that.
eat the rich [Richos] - 11:27am Jun 26, 1998 EST (#46 of 1135)
right on rio. In fact at the time of the pink slip the just mentioned poster was behaving towards Marcus..........well how do I say
it, sort of bullying really.
And then after well how can you describe it - it was so sweet.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:28pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#47 of 1135)
rio dee: You are right. no one knows why Marcus left, but as I remember, there were good indications that he didn't leave by
his own choice.
But I have a question for you and richos: Who put a bug up your asses?
David Luckie [LuckieBoy] - 12:32pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#48 of 1135)
GW,
It seems a bunch of people have bugs up their asses 'round here. I don't know what happened, but somebody somewhere kicked
a hornet's nest and the whole left side of the board is sore.
Geez, lighten up, people. It's just a freakin BBS...
[rio dee] - 12:41pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#49 of 1135)
That's funny and typical of you GW.
Still clinging to passing the rumor that Marcus didn't get dammed sick of this whole bull and just leave on his own.
give Canada back to the Innuit, the current caretakers don't deserve it. [Richos] - 12:43pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#50
of 1135)
It started with Rich Pasma (a noted LW poster) and escalated from there. It's been coming for a long time. It's a generational
thing.
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 12:46pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#51 of 1135)
Who's got the RealKill?
David Luckie [LuckieBoy] - 12:52pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#52 of 1135)
Enough about Marcus and sore posters.
What about the search utility? Dave?
[_Liz_] - 03:03pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#53 of 1135)
Rich,
In the interest of ending this silly misunderstanding on your part and in the interest of restoring harmony and light to the
board in general, I am willing....though it stings!...to concede that you are in fact, vain and petty.
Now..how about a drink?
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 03:16pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#54 of 1135)
Rich, let me translate for you.
That is a sincere effort by Liz for you two to get along, and forget the past.
Hey baby....did I do ok? :-D
[_Liz_] - 03:57pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#55 of 1135)
Welllll.....*ggg* OK. It was a sincere attempt to ...all that other stuff.
See how magnanimous I am, sweetie?
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 04:22pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#56 of 1135)
I ain't going there! ;-)
absolUTELY immatrue [Crimson] - 04:55pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#57 of 1135)
Sorry for the interuption guys.....the weekend is HERE!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:03pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#58 of 1135)
Dave
My rear view mirror fell off my windshield, probably because of the incredible heat. I have gotten rear view mirror glue to fix it.
But, if the heat made the mirror fall in the first place, what would be the chance of it falling off shortly after reinstalling it?
[_Liz_] - 05:17pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#59 of 1135)
Melanie,
My experience in Los Angeles heat waves is that the heat *probably* had nothing to do with it. If you bought the special stuff
designed to reaffix a rear view mirror, you probably have two tubes of stuff and if you use them the right way you will probably
be fine.
Now...if anyone knows how to fix my head gasket, please let me know.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:29pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#60 of 1135)
Yes, I do have the two tubes and have read the instructions thoroughly. The clerk in the auto parts store indicated, though that
they were having a run on the stuff now, which makes me think the heat has helped this occur. Thanks, and sorry, I can't help
with the head gasket problem.
Stumps don't lie--Ferret Mike [hobbb] - 05:59pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#61 of 1135)
I was thinking about how you would laugh watching me get ready to go out to the woods to protest.
1-Where is my ferret sitter! Damn him, I need to run down to REI for white gas.--Two or three frantic phone calls, he shows up,
run, run, run.
2-Stop at a phone to call 'Out of the Fog' to leave a message with Roadrunner that Ferret is on his way and will be twenty minutes
late.
3-Hide the animal products at the bottom of the food bag to keep the snide vegan comments to a minimum.
4-Damn! forgot my good compass, too late to go back now.
5-Scribble a note to leave at the 'Fog' with some money for Shylent Cat to pay a bill I forgot.
We don't look much different at what we do than many of you all running around in the real world. We aren't paid, but this
deffinately is a job.
I have to get going back out there to sit in one of out platforms 180 ft. up. I am now working the frontline for a time. No more
training or support work for now. See you in a couple of weeks.
[_Liz_] - 06:03pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#62 of 1135)
Has anyone heard from Cat, lately? I e mailed her about a week ago just to check on her but she didn't respond.
Maybe there should be an outpouring of concern, folks.
[jcastro] - 08:27pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#63 of 1135)
Hi Folks someone asked about Search: We haven't been able to install it. And if we did, apparently it would slow down the boards.
How important do you feel Search would be? Would you be willing to put up with slower boards to get it? Or would you rather have
faster boards? JC
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 08:38pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#64 of 1135)
faster boards.
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 08:44pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#65 of 1135)
Janice...I hope I remembered your name.
Search would be nice....but what I really would like is an index.
I find it hard to throw myself into a topic...by reading the last few posts...
If there was an index then I could see when the conversation was lively...and not to be accused of being cliquie but who the
participants are.
Going backwards doesn't work and sometimes., especially when the conversation dies off and then becomes current again....
Going through the posts from the last time I checked that thread...(as my picks)..also doesn't let me know if there if the topic stays
topical or just become a topic with little input and few posters participating.
Since this new format, I have found that I am less inclined to post and spend a great deal of time..trying to catch up..mostly in
areas that I would have skipped over. Usually I find I can't get into the board at all and move on.
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 09:04pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#66 of 1135)
Jolly I didn't get your e-mail..last one I got was Apr 2 (LOL)...have you changed your IPS since then...or have I accidently
thrown you in the trash?
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 09:06pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#67 of 1135)
My ISP died a couple of months back. New address is vikings@telusplanet.net
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 09:19pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#68 of 1135)
That's the one I had...you must have posted it on the boards and I updated my address book...geez I'm so efficient.
[Snow Pea] - 09:58pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#69 of 1135)
I've been wonderin' about Cat too. She probably just needed to take a break. Who can blame her. Though Cat, we are thinking
about you.
Although it's a different circumstance perhaps, I am wondering about Babblingbrook as well. She is still welcome on the board
-- isn't she folks?
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 10:02pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#70 of 1135)
She is as far as I'm concerned SP .
[cabot] - 10:07pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#71 of 1135)
Speaking for myself, of course babblingbrook is welcome.
I would hope that she realises that insults invite escalating responses.
I would also hope that she and I can contribute to a positive exchange of ideas.
cabot
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:31pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#72 of 1135)
"My rear view mirror fell off my windshield, probably because of the incredible heat. I have gotten rear view mirror glue to
fix it."
Melanie, do not waste your time with that junk they sell as mirror glue. Find a glue called Goop. It works in Panama, so it
will work anywhere.
[Snow Pea] - 10:34pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#73 of 1135)
Thanks Cabot, and especially you, Jolly.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:34pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#74 of 1135)
"Now...if anyone knows how to fix my head gasket, please let me know."
The only fix for a bad head gasket is to remove the head, check it to make sure it is not warped, and install a new head gasket.
This is not a job for non-mechanics.
[Snow Pea] - 10:37pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#75 of 1135)
I blew a head gasket in a stinkin' old Ford Escort I had. Needless to say, I will never buy a Ford piece-of-junk again. Once
burned, twice shy.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:38pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#76 of 1135)
Jollie, I would like add you to the list of people to whom I send jokes, radical libertarian political commentary and wacko stuff. A
simple yes or no will do.
[Snow Pea] - 10:40pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#77 of 1135)
Of course, I will never buy a Buick as well. Due to that stupid, obnoxious ad at the top of this board.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:41pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#78 of 1135)
"I blew a head gasket in a stinkin' old Ford Escort I had."
That's what you get for buying one of those god-forsaken world-cars. Next time buy a real Ford; Mustang, Crown Vic (made in
Canada, BTW), or a full size pickup.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:45pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#79 of 1135)
Hank
I've got some Goop in my junk drawer! Didn't think about using it for this, but I just might! Thanks for the tip!
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 10:51pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#80 of 1135)
Hank yes. j
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:57pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#81 of 1135)
"I've got some Goop in my junk drawer!"
Mel, I tried three different mirror glues, and none worked. The Goop did. Be sure to clean the glass, separate the mirror from its
base and let it sit overnight to cure.
Jollie, consider it done.
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 11:15pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#82 of 1135)
I will never buy an Isuzu since they have gone from that horrifying slinky song to gruesome renditions from "Paint your
Wagon."
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:23pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#83 of 1135)
Hi Sher, I have an '87 Isuzu P'Up with 165,000 miles. Runs like a top. I'm thinking of naming it the "Energizer Peacup".
[Snow Pea] - 11:29pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#84 of 1135)
Hank -- Admittedly, I rented a Crown Vic once and found it most enjoyable. But hey, I'm a Liberal. We have to buy "world" cars.
LOL!!!
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:32pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#85 of 1135)
Snow Pea, if you think the Vic is enjoyable, you really owe it to yourself to strap on a 5.0L Mustang or one of the new DOHC
Cobras.
[cabot] - 11:47pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#86 of 1135)
Panama Hank-
I didn't realize that your handle was meant to indicate you lived in Panama.
I worked there as a contractor at Albrook AFB in the late '50's. Met my lovely wife there and this year we celebrate our 41st
anniversary.
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 11:47pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#87 of 1135)
Snow.....get a Lincoln. Only Ford product I ever owned.
Hank, you've been getting stuff from me every now and then, but you probably don't know that it's me....lol!
By the way, my '87 Mazda PU has 247,000 on it, and is still rolling strong!
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 11:53pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#88 of 1135)
I had the 1976 302 4 speed Cobra II. Loads of fun. Babe magnet... until they saw me! LOL
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 11:54pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#89 of 1135)
Now there's Cooter... a man with great wheels! (I've seen the car!)
[Snow Pea] - 11:57pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#90 of 1135)
I live in a Lincoln infested neighborhood, Cooter. I like 'em, but my Honda really stands out. Just traded in my '88 for a '98. Best
cars I ever owned. Of course, if size matters . . .
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:25am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#91 of 1135)
As somebody up to her ass in Godzilla products let me inform you that size does matter.
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 12:28am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#92 of 1135)
LOL Sher!
Snow, I have a '91 Mark VII, and I love it! Hondas are good cars, though. I've had several of them.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:30am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#93 of 1135)
"I worked there as a contractor at Albrook AFB in the late '50's. Met my lovely wife there and this year we celebrate our 41st
anniversary."
It's still a beautiful place, Cabot, though there have been many changes. Albrook was turned over to Panama in October last
year. I married my wonderful Panamanian wife in 1976.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:39am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#94 of 1135)
Cooter, when I get old, I have my heart set on a Lincoln MK VIII, but for now I'm having too much fun with my 5.0L Mustang.
This sumbitch will lay rubber going into third.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 12:41am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#95 of 1135)
C'mon Hank, keep tryin'... get it to *chirp* going into fourth!
What the world needs now is love [CooterBrown] - 12:46am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#96 of 1135)
Hank, I hear that they're not going to make the Mark Series anymore. I'm never getting rid of this hummer! It's a deep candy
apple red! Gawgeous!
[cabot] - 12:48am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#97 of 1135)
Hank-
I understand that the country no longer is the friendly to "papa fritas" (fried potatoes to y'all) as they referred to us yankees.
By the way, I had an Isuzu P'up also, 193,000 miles when I sold it. And the only major problem was a transmission rebuild (5
speed).
But I've gone strictly domestic for many years now.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:53am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#98 of 1135)
"C'mon Hank, keep tryin'... get it to *chirp* going into fourth!"
Well, she's getting a new short block, heads, and a hotter cam in October. Maybe then, if I can find a place to wind her out.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:58am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#99 of 1135)
"I understand that the country no longer is the friendly to "papa fritas" (fried potatoes to y'all) as they referred to us
yankees."
We had some misunderstandings back in '88 and '89, but IMO Panama is still the friendliest country in Latin America. I feel
right at home here. Check out my home page. You will also find a link to the Zone Ring there, where you can find some really
nice Panama pictures.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 12:58am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#100 of 1135)
Ah yes, close quarters in the Zone, I'd imagine. Forgot about that.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 01:11am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#101 of 1135)
Great car Hank! I visited the site once before too!
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 01:20am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#102 of 1135)
Christmas '89 featured a few more fireworks than we wanted Jollie. I live 16 miles from the nearest military base, but only 3
miles from Tocumen Airport, so while we missed the main show, we did get to enjoy the parachute drop and preceding bombs at
the airport. I was trapped in my neighborhood with my wife and two young sons (12 and 8 at the time) until Christmans Eve,
armed only with a .22 rifle and a replica 1860 Colt black powder revolver. My Panamanian neighbors kept a close, protective
eye on us. I'm a Viet Nam vet, but I never knew real fear until I found myself responsible for a wife and two boys and no real
guns to defend them. That's partly why I am such a rabid pro-gunner now, and never get very far from one.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 01:30am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#103 of 1135)
So is the Zone in effect still? Or are you a resident of Panama itself now? (I've got a wife and a 5 year old son and 6 year old
daughter and I'd have guns too, under those circumstances!)
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 01:39am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#104 of 1135)
There is no more Zone, Jollie. I have been a landed immigrant since 1976, and have never lived in the Zone. There are still 4
military bases, PXs and commissaries, and a few Pan Canal housing areas, but there is no more Canal Zone. At the risk of
offending any lurking Zonians, they should have done away with the Zone 40 years ago. The highly visible, highly priveleged
enclave of Americans built up the resentment that made the Treaties of 1979 possible and necessary.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 01:45am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#105 of 1135)
LOL, remember Senator S.I. Hayakawa (sp?), "we stole it fair and square". Ironically the Senator was from my hometown.
[masontwo] - 01:50am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#106 of 1135)
Hey Panama..never knew anyone from Panama to ask about something...in 88 I was on a freighter cruise going through the
Canal to London, and sitting on deck I had a portable radio and used to listen to great music but occasionally I'd hear a religious
program which sounded as though it was some form of Catholicism except that they were announcing a service later in the
week to which one was invited to bring their roosters......AND to send financial contributions to an address in New York City!...
What was I LISTENING to?
Thanks....
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 01:56am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#107 of 1135)
" except that they were announcing a service later in the week to which one was invited to bring their roosters." If there was
also a mention of UFO's... it was Art Bell.
[masontwo] - 02:02am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#108 of 1135)
I think not, ollie...
and I don't think the roosters were headed for choir practise...
It was so depressing..never forgot it... organ music... bit of Latin..and a warm invitation to all foul, willing or unwilling.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 02:04am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#109 of 1135)
Probably Santeria, Masontwo. Lots of folks, including Noriega, were big on it. It has elements of Catholism, Voodoo, and African
animism, and many of its rituals involve the sacrifice of animals.
[masontwo] - 02:16am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#110 of 1135)
I suppose...pretty sophisticated presentation and money hawking....but, why not? Way of the world...next world..
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 07:52pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#111 of 1135)
Seems like there has been a glitch in the boards today! Either that or everyone has been outside playing in the heat instead of
computing!
I've been getting a server error message all day. Hope the error is corrected for a while!
[cabot] - 08:17pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#112 of 1135)
Mel-
Me too and I also hope that logging on will require less patience than it has lately.
Hank-
I dropped by your homepage. Good show. The pics of Panama Viejo (old Panama to y'all) sure brought back memories.
Oddly enough, I live only a few miles from LRAFB.
My email address is johnt@futura.net, let me know if your son would like to burn a steak and sip a cool one one of these days.
[masontwo] - 08:23pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#113 of 1135)
Dave..now that you've had the time to do all the improvements that have been mentioned recently, I couldn't wait to see what
the old place would be like....
I've turned up and looked everywhere. I don't see the improved features yet....
Have I missed the pony?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 08:28pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#114 of 1135)
cabot
I was unable to join in while you and Hank were talking about Panama. I was living at Fort Amador in the mid-50s. I was a mere
child, an adorable child, I've been told! I have many pleasant memories of those days.
[cabot] - 08:41pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#115 of 1135)
Mel -
Coincedences and threads, right? I worked there as a contractor for the Air Force in 1957. Money got tight, the contract was
canceled and I had to leave. But by that time I had met my future wife and was determined not to leave without her.
The rest is our history.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 08:46pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#116 of 1135)
And I used to drive an Isuzu P'up too! LOL
[cabot] - 08:54pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#117 of 1135)
Mel-
Great vehicle if you didn't mind carrying lunch to go from 0 to 60.
But I was working on a job that required lots of traveling. They paid mileage and that little truck made me lots of money.
But it wasn't fun to drive.
[_Liz_] - 08:57pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#118 of 1135)
Oh good...we can get back in.
NOW to clear up some messes...
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:01pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#119 of 1135)
Mine was a diesel and had no pickup, but lots of fun to drive! And I had a standard poodle that used to ride in the back and he'd
stick his head through the pass-thru window and would look like anither passenger. He was great fun at back drive-thrus!
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 09:04pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#120 of 1135)
My P'Up has the 2.3 L engine and has enough acceleration to beat the majority of the 1.5L econoboxes on Panama's streets. My
nephew even remarked yesterday how fast it is. Naturally I had to take him for a ride in my Mustang. Heh, heh!
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 09:07pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#121 of 1135)
Cabot, with your permission, I will add you to my slightly politically incorrect jokes, radical libertarian, and wacko stuff miling
list. My son is no longer accessible by email, but I will forward your generous offer to him. Be forewarned, he is 6' 3", 190
pounds and eats accordingly.
[DaveGin] - 09:45pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#122 of 1135)
So...did you miss me?
I had a perfectly rotten workweek in Real Life. Hot, deadline pressure galore and tedious.
The little outbreak Thursday night did nothing to help. To those who tried to steer the train wreck away, I appreciatae your
efforts. To those who put the throttle to the max and made the boilers hotter, you should be ashamed.
Let's all work real hard at not having that happen again.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 09:48pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#123 of 1135)
While I have your attention Crimson, Liz and Jollie
What you do in email is private business. It does not belong on these boards.
If you want to have fights on other boards, that's your business. Keep them there.
We're here to talk, have a good time and maybe learn a little about each other.
But keep the personality disputes off the boards.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 09:57pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#124 of 1135)
Now...the other stuff
Mel, what Panama Hank said. Make sure the glass is clean and free of the old adhesive.
GW: Your paltry 90-something degrees in Ohio does not impress me. We had our first 100-plus day in May. June has been a
terror, with temps hitting 105 and 107 regularly.
Weather in the 90s would a cold wave.
Cars: My most fun car was a 1960 Sunbeam Alpine I had for a brief time my junior year in college. It cost all of $600 and ran
like a dream. Taking S-curves at 90 and the rear wheels dig in and the steering steady as a mother's love.
My favorite vehicle was a 1971 Landcruiser. Green with detachable roof, it would take you anywhere in spirit and style, if not
comfort
We plowed through some really rough areas in the Big Bend of Texas, which is high desert country and some of the most
beautifully desolate scenery around.
DaveGin
What the world needs now is love [CooterBrown] - 10:09pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#125 of 1135)
Man, I haven't even heard anyone mention a Sunbeam Alpin since back in........I don't want to remember.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 10:19pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#126 of 1135)
No problem Dave. It's been a very, very long time since I've had a post deleted .... had to happen eventually.
What the world needs now is love [CooterBrown] - 10:23pm Jun 27, 1998 EST (#127 of 1135)
Man, I haven't even heard anyone mention a Sunbeam Alpin since back in........I don't want to remember.
[cabot] - 12:15am Jun 28, 1998 EST (#128 of 1135)
Dave- Re Thursday night, I contributed to the bonfire. Perhaps that was wrong, but I just got tired of insults.
I try to convey my thoughts for maximum impact, not maximum pain. Rarely successful, but that is my aim.
[cabot] - 12:22am Jun 28, 1998 EST (#129 of 1135)
On cars- My present drive is an Intrepid ES. The funnest car I've ever driven.
If I had had this as a young man, I would probably still be in jail.
[cabot] - 01:11am Jun 28, 1998 EST (#130 of 1135)
Hank-
I meant to answer your post forthwith but mea culpas and cars distracted me.
Thanks for adding me to your list and tell your son that my wife likes to see a healthy appetite.
Digale a su hijo, bienvenido a mi casa.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:54am Jun 28, 1998 EST (#131 of 1135)
Thanks much, Cabot. You are now on the list. Now a bit of levity.
An American was waiting on a London street corner. An attractive English girl was passing by when a gust of wind blew her
dress above her waist.
"A bit airy...", remarked the American.
To which the Cockney girl said, " 'ell yes! What did you expect - feathers?!"
[DaveGin] - 10:51pm Jun 28, 1998 EST (#132 of 1135)
In a word, Richos...
Balderdash. Perhaps you didn't catch my sermon on dumping the personality conflicts before posting. Your little fit of pique
wasn't worth keeping.
There's no rule that you have to like everyone here. Or agree with them. Just that you have to be civil.
You too, Cooter.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Don't put on any airs when you're down on Rue Morgue Avenue [CooterBrown] - 11:01pm Jun 28, 1998 EST (#133 of
1135)
Dave, I will submit my apology to you and the other posters here, sans Richos. I knew that it was a violation, but wanted to make
a point.
I'll take whatever medicine the doctor orders. At least I didn't put it in words and phrases. :-^)
[_Liz_] - 11:37pm Jun 28, 1998 EST (#134 of 1135)
Gee...I've been offline most of the day and I missed all the good stuff!
David Luckie [LuckieBoy] - 09:05am Jun 29, 1998 EST (#135 of 1135)
"How important do you feel Search would be? Would you be willing to put up with slower boards to get it? Or would you rather
have faster boards? JC"
All of the above!
Search would be great, but not if it comes at the expense of speed. If we can't have both, speed comes first. If the BBS software is
the limiting factor, it may be time for an upgrade? That's my vote.
give Canada back to the Innuit, the current caretakers don't deserve it. [Richos] - 09:48am Jun 29, 1998 EST (#136
of 1135)
No problem Dave. It's been a very, very long time since I've had a thread
deleted .... had to happen eventually.
Rumpus Room [Richos] - 09:52am Jun 29, 1998 EST (#137 of 1135)
Liz - they didn't like my new thread.
Cooter - I didn't follow your link - I figured there wasn't much point. Kind of sorry I didn't now as it must have been worth a
visit for it to get deleted.
Oh, oh, are we gonna fly, down in that easy chair [CooterBrown] - 01:08pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#138 of 1135)
Upon further review, I do apologize to Richos. It was in bad taste, Richos, trust me. I was in one of my infrequent moods, and got
carried away. Fortunately, Dave was on the job! :-D
Have a great day!
Stumps don't lie--Ferret Mike [hobbb] - 02:51pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#139 of 1135)
That's what you get for buying one of those god-forsaken world-cars. Next time buy a real Ford; Mustang, Crown
Vic (made in Canada, BTW), or a full size pickup.
Forget cars, if you are ablebodied ride a bicycle. ;-)
[fionn] - 03:46pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#140 of 1135)
hobbb - I prefer something with a leg at each corner. Bi-cycles are not meant for those of us who are balance challenged.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 03:53pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#141 of 1135)
And besides the smell of bicycle engine emissions is ghastly!
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 03:55pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#142 of 1135)
Methane is a greenhouse gas, too! };>
Mike(r) [jesters1] - 04:01pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#143 of 1135)
Maybe people should be emmission tested too?
[_Liz_] - 04:18pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#144 of 1135)
A SOFTWARE UPGRADE???? AGAIN???? AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 04:27pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#145 of 1135)
Excellent idea!
Strike a match, bend over and emit!
I suggest avoiding certain foods before the test, such as pickled eggs, spam and collard greens.
[_Liz_] - 06:28pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#146 of 1135)
What's a collared green?
[Snow Pea] - 06:37pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#147 of 1135)
Liz, I think it's like a fiddle head. Gamy vegetables -- yuck!
[_Liz_] - 06:58pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#148 of 1135)
What's a fiddle head? Sounds like a spider.
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 08:00pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#149 of 1135)
You ain't never had collard greens?
Gawd, there ain't nothin more tender and productive than sweet collard greens.
You need:
1 Bunch of twice washed collards, with large stems removed.
1 Large, smoked ham hock
1 tbsp salt
1/2 tps pepper
2 fl. oz Tobasco sauce (just to kick it up a notch ;)
1 tsp white sugar
Put 1 gallon of water in a 3 or 4 gallon stock pot. Bring to a boil and add the ham hock. Cover and simmer for 20-30 minutes. Add
greens and all seasonin's. Let simmer for 'bout an hour or until greens are tender.
Serve with additional Tobasco, and let'em rip!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 08:21pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#150 of 1135)
And you gotta cook 'em outside because they'll stink up the whole universe!
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 08:33pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#151 of 1135)
Blasphemy!
I'll tell you what stinks. And they taste as bad as they smell. Nothing is worse than bell peppers.
Awful. Just awful.
Practitioner of Incomplete Oral Sex [TireBiter] - 08:35pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#152 of 1135)
How to cook a Kidney (Basic):
Boil the piss out of it.
Practitioner of Incomplete Oral Sex [TireBiter] - 08:37pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#153 of 1135)
How to cook a Kidney (Advanced):
1) Find a smooth rock the approximate shape and size of the kidney.
2) Place the rock in a large, heavy pot.
3) Place the kidney on the rock.
4) Cover with water.
5) Boil until the rock is tender.
6) Throw out the kidney and eat the rock.
Vegan [Richos] - 08:39pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#154 of 1135)
Yeeeeeeechhh
I wouldn't even eat the rock
[Johnnyba] - 08:42pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#155 of 1135)
The ambassador of a small African nation chanced to visit Russia, and was entertained by his opposite number, the Russian
ambassador. For three days, the African ambassador was wined, dined, and generally treated to the best hospitality that Russia had
to offer.
On the final day of his visit, the Russian ambassador said "As your stay is coming to an end, it is time for you to play our traditional
game, Russian roulette. One of the six chambers of this gun is loaded - you spin the cylinder, point the gun at your head, and pull
the trigger."
This phased the African slightly, but he was a proud man of a warrior people, and to show fear would be unthinkable. Both men
took their guns, spun, and pulled the triggers.
<click> <click>
Both chambers were empty, and both ambassadors breathed a sigh of relief.
The African ambassador was much impressed with the couragous game, and thought hard about the subject before the Russian
Ambassador was due to visit his country the next year.
When the visit came, the African ambassador treated the Russian with all hospitality, until the final day of his stay. Leading him
to a private room in the palace, the African ambassador spoke "Now it is time for you to sample our game, African roulette". So
saying, he led the Russian into the room, the only occupants of which were six beautiful, naked women.
The African ambassador said "These women are the most beautiful members of one of our tribes. Any one of them will give you a
blowjob - take your pick".
The Russian was not entirely averse to this idea, but he couldn't see the connection with Russian Roulette. He said "Well, ok, great,
but where's the roulette part? Where's the danger?"
With a big grin on his face, the African ambassador answered:
"One of them's a cannibal"
If you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with! [CooterBrown] - 11:27pm Jun 29, 1998 EST
(#156 of 1135)
LOL!
[_Liz_] - 11:31pm Jun 29, 1998 EST (#157 of 1135)
ewwwww.
[_Liz_] - 12:20am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#158 of 1135)
Dear Dave:
Why does it have to be so hard to love some people? And why are some people such ding dongs?
jimbe5 [JimBe5] - 12:50am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#159 of 1135)
It was early one morning in the sperm colony and while all the rest of the sperms were still sleeping, one sperm,SUPER SPERM
was already up junping rope , doing pushups and had already run a mile before the other sperms woke up.
Super Sperm was a go getter ahead of all the rest, always working out to be in top physical condition.He kept saying over and over
to himself "I'm going to be th one to fertlize the egg".
Then one night THE ALARM SOUNDED Super Sperm was off in a flash running as hard as he could and all the time saying I'M
going to be the one to fretlize the egg. As he runs he looks back and sees he is way ahead of the others excitement and anxiety are
running high
All of a sudden Super Sperm skreches and slides to a stop and quickly turns around with the most horrified look that any sperm
could have on his face.
He is waiving his arms wildly and shouting GO BACK, GO BACK.........
It's a Blow Job
Ken Starrs worst nightmare
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:56am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#160 of 1135)
jimbe5
I'm having a hard time picturing your SuperSperm with arms and legs! However, I can deal with that. But where in blazes is the
mile he ran?
"Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply". [jollyollie] - 01:00am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#161 of 1135)
Coulda been worse, he coulda cracked his head on a wall of latex.....
[_Liz_] - 02:03am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#162 of 1135)
He is waiving his arms wildly and shouting GO BACK, GO BACK......... <
ROFL!
[Rich Pasma] - 02:58am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#163 of 1135)
I will cast my vote for having the search feature on this board available. As far as this the issue about it affecting the speed of this
service, I would consider the source. It has to be coming from the people responsible for the software driving this board. Given
the number of problems these people have just keeping this board working, I would cast some doubt upon their competence.
As far as credibility goes, just consider the message, presented below, that is given if you click on the search button.
I n the next few weeks Pathfinder will be adding a Search feature to its boards that will allow users to search the entire boards
community both by keyword and by concept. Until then, please bear with us while we work to get this feature up and running.
This message in response to clicking on the search button has been there for about two years. In an off line discussion I
expressed some of the concerns I had about this with Marcus and how it could affect the credibility of this board. Well as many
other things I have to admit I was wrong about this; however, as an interesting side note, I received what was probably Marcus's
last official communication as a CNN Webmaster. To the delight of many people here, he objected to what I had to say and was quite
supportive towards the management of this board.
The thing is I have had some first hand experience with computer hacks about 10 years ago. What I learned in dealing with them
was, because the felt that they knew more about what it was they were doing, they thought that they could lie and get away with
it. If you think about this for a moment this is not all that hard to understand, given human nature what it unfortunately is at
times.
Fortunately from the business end of things I have not had to deal with this, and I suspect that the situation with this type of
relationship in the business world has improved since I last had to deal with It.
As far as adding the search engine capabilities to this board slowing things down, I do not buy it. In simple terms a search engine
provides indexed information at a very high speed. Without a search engine you are going to have one of two situations, either
people taking tremendous resources looking for information, or people that are interested in finding information that are going
to do nothing because it is so difficult to get information. If you are coming from the philosophy of providing a service this makes
no sense.
Coming at this from the angle that by providing a search feature, the use of it by current users is going to add to the overhead,
given what was presented above this does not seem likely, given that inefficient searches are going to be eliminated in many
cases.
On the other hand the use of a search feature by the current users is going to improve the quality of this board by increasing the
accountability of what people say here. If that were to slow things down here a bit, it may speed up the pace of discussion.
Another possibility would be that by adding a search feature to this board, it would be slowed down by increased participation.
Anyone that would even consider that adding this feature would decrease efficiency of the discussion here by increased volume
would in my opinion have rocks for brains. Given some of the things I have done here, it would surprise me it you would not have
a hard time finding people saying the same thing about me. With this said, I am willing to allow the chips fall where they may.
Have fun.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
[_Liz_] - 03:52am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#164 of 1135)
Oops...i forgot to vote.
Dump it. *g*
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 08:20am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#165 of 1135)
They had the search function available on the cnn.com message boards, and they eventually disabled it. I vote to keep search
disabled here in order to maintain system resources for reading and posting.
Peaceful [Richos] - 08:53am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#166 of 1135)
Why not just let us go to a # post in the thread.
Or put them down the bottom like the search engines - ie 1-10 11- 20 etc etc.
Of course you would still need 200 of them on the bottom of some threads but this could be done by clicking an arrow at the
bottom possibly.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 09:25am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#167 of 1135)
Why not just let us go to a # post in the thread.
In a kludgy way, you can. Simply right click on the post number and copy link location. Then open page, paste the link in, and
modify the last set of digits in the link for the post you want.
Peaceful [Richos] - 09:30am Jun 30, 1998 EST (#168 of 1135)
Thanks Nicad, nothing kludgy about that it works brilliantly.
[jcastro] - 09:21pm Jun 30, 1998 EST (#169 of 1135)
Thanks for letting me know what you think about search. Rich, I guess I should thank you for pointing out that stupid
oversight in leaving up the promise of search that has been up there since who knows when. As you may know, the person
who put that up there didn't really know the implications of enabling it, among which would be slowing down the boards. Such
is life -- often the people making the decisions about how these systems should work do not actually participate in them. We've
been talking it over with the guys in the engine room, and at this point, we're going to take a pass on search. I think you'd all
be unhappy with the impact on the boards. Thanks for helping us think this through. I did want to know what y'all thought.
Janice
[CyberGuy97] - 10:05am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#170 of 1135)
Dave,
Why are both of the e-mail links broken? I need to get in touch with you about board policies...
CyberGuy97
Cat [Catrin] - 10:18am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#171 of 1135)
Hi everybody! I didn't get lost - I've just sort of lost interest in my computer lately...which I hope will pass.
Janice said, "...the person who put that up there didn't really know the implications of enabling it, among which would be
slowing down the boards. Such is life -- often the people making the decisions about how these systems should work do not
actually participate in them. We've been talking it over with the guys in the engine room, and at this point, we're going to take
a pass on search. I think you'd all be unhappy with the impact on the boards..."
Forgive me, Janice, but such is NOT life. That sounds absurd to me, being that we're talking about the great and illustrious
TIME/Warner, a mega-conglomerate that is bigger and richer than God.
If the search function will slow the system down, you have inadequate hardware. This is not rocket science.
Tell them to spend some money.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:28am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#172 of 1135)
Good to see you again, Cat! Hope you stick around for a while! You are in my thoughts often!
"Taxation with representation isn't so hot, either". [jollyollie] - 10:29am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#173 of 1135)
Or... they could send all us loyal wonderful posters new equipment! Now there's a PR policy with potential! (Hi Catrin!)
[DaveGin] - 11:29am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#174 of 1135)
Jollie
I've tried to respond to the email you sent, but they keeping getting kicked back because your address has fatal errors.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Cat [Catrin] - 11:43am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#175 of 1135)
Mel & Ollie - backatcha.
Ollie: Us having new equipment wouldn't help much if the TIME server is slow...
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:55am Jul 1, 1998 EST (#176 of 1135)
"Ollie: Us having new equipment wouldn't help much if the TIME server is slow..."
It would sure help me. This is not the only place I visit on the Internet. :)
[DaveGin] - 01:52pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#177 of 1135)
Good question, Cyberguy
You are not alone. A few others have experienced difficulties getting email through the SEND EMAIL TO HOST button. Though
most of you have no problem at all.
Send specific details of what error messages are returned to help@pathfinder.com
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:19pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#178 of 1135)
Dave, are all scatological references verboten?
This item just goes to prove that government is full of, um, well, you know!
Bird Droppings Fill Ore. City Hall
ECHO, Ore. (AP) -- Pigeons have found one way to fight City Hall.
When this northeastern Oregon community of 615 people decided it was time to remodel City Hall, workers
ventured into the 4,000-square-foot attic and found 5 1/2 tons of pigeon droppings. It had collected there since
the two-story building opened in 1916.
Five and a half tons!
``It's a wonder the ceiling didn't collapse,'' City Manager Diane Berry said.
Ten years ago, broken windows were boarded up to stop the roosting. But the birds still were able to enter
through the damaged roof.
Wouldn't you expect there would be some odor to provide a clue as to what was happening in the attic?
The pigeon droppings contained asbestos, a potential cancer-causing material once used to insulate buildings.
Even with a high-efficiency vacuum and several shovels, a company that specializes in asbestos removal needed
five days to clean the attic.
Now, why is there asbestos in the droppings? Is this a naturally occurring substance in pigeons or did the pigeons have to eat
it?
Guano make a guess how much this cleanup will cost?
[DaveGin] - 05:24pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#179 of 1135)
You seem to know your way around scatology, Mel
You relayed a funny story without using the "S" word. Excellent.
And it's a story that confirms the wisdom of taking cover when the pigeons fly over in Oregon.
DaveGin
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:30pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#180 of 1135)
Dave, is that all the comment you have to make?
sniff*
[DaveGin] - 05:36pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#181 of 1135)
No slight intended, Mel
It's just hard to add anything significant to a tale of 5.5 tons of pigeon dung accumulating at City Hall for 82 years.
DaveGin
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:42pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#182 of 1135)
sigh*
Oh never mind!
[DaveGin] - 05:50pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#183 of 1135)
Of course, you will be punished, Mel, for the guano pun.
Did you think I didn't notice?
DaveGin
Cat [Catrin] - 05:53pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#184 of 1135)
Well, is it significant to comment that it's odorless? At least, I never smelled it when I was in places where many pigeons
congregate...or even when it was in my hair...
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 06:01pm Jul 1, 1998 EST (#185 of 1135)
Yes, Dave, I thought you didn't notice! :^)
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:13am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#186 of 1135)
I have tried, Lord knows I've tried, Dave, but I just cannot bite my tongue another second.
THEY ARE NOT LENNY BRUCE'S SEVEN WORDS, THEY ARE GEORGE CARLIN'S.
absolUTELY immature [Crimson] - 01:09am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#187 of 1135)
LOL, Sherry, I did wonder about that. Lenny Bruce?? I sure SOUNDS like George Carlin's voice everynight when I close the
windows program done. *G*
.
Shoot, I forgot to change the 'handle'. And there's no way to edit that. Gonna change it now......
Voici homme de Da! [CooterBrown] - 01:13am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#188 of 1135)
Hey, Cat! Glad to see you back!
Young at heart. Slightly older in other places. [Crimson] - 01:13am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#189 of 1135)
I've been going to ask Dave: Where do you suppose the saying 'In seventh heaven' came from? And what are the other six
heavens?
[DaveGin] - 08:54am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#190 of 1135)
George Carlin, eh?
Well...it should have been Lenny Bruce.
As for Seventh Heaven...isn't that from a Carlin routine?
DaveGin
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 09:28am Jul 2, 1998 EST (#191 of 1135)
Heheheheh Dave, Lenny Bruce NEVER found a word he didn't think he could and should say.
I remember he used to get arrested in San Francisco every other night.
[jcastro] - 07:31pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#192 of 1135)
Nice to see you back, Cat!
Janice
Ray--Well, of course ARMED peasants tend to be uppity! [wardaddy] - 07:49pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#193 of 1135)
Welcome back, cat
Hope everything is well with you.
Did you guys know that the Lenny Bruce recordings are available again. I get some vintage music catalog every month or so,
and I ordered mine from them. I dno't believe that they are the complete sets, but they are terrific.
If I remember correctly George Carlin got the idea form Lenny Bruce. Carlin got arrested one night when Bruce was busted.
Carlin, in a show of support, refused to give the cops his identification and got hauled off with Bruce. I've always admired
Carlin for that.
[_Liz_] - 07:55pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#194 of 1135)
I have never heard a Lenny Bruce routine, but Lyle and I have laughed ourselves nearly into comas listening to Carlin.
'A Place For My Stuff' is especially relevant now that we have separate bathrooms. Wasn't it Bette Davis who said a marriage
cannot survive unless the husband and wife have separate bathrooms?
[masontwo] - 07:57pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#195 of 1135)
I have been having Java trouble again on the board...am I alone? I have to disable Java when I use the Board and enable again
when I move off.....
Not very convenient...am I alone in this?
Ray--Well, of course ARMED peasants tend to be uppity! [wardaddy] - 08:04pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#196 of 1135)
Liz
"A place for my stuff" is a classic, but then everything Carlin does is classic.
Lenny Bruce is hard to explain. With him, there was no middle ground, you either hated him or you loved him. Many parents of
the late fifties thought that their college aged children were going to Hell by way of Sing Sing and San Quentin for listening to
him.
There were some other wonderful comics back then. Shelley Berman, the Canadian Mort Sahl (who used a current newspaper
for his script onstage-everything was exemporaneous), and many others. Bob Newhart, whose routines are still hilarious after
over thirty years, got started back in those days. His King Kong routine is a classic and available again after he did an MTV
concert a few years back.
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 11:30pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#197 of 1135)
My dad always played Shelly Berman and Bob Newhart albums...I used to LOVE them, bet he still has them around somewhere.
Remember that revolutionary war thing newhart did? "hey did you hear about what Nutty George did? Crossed a river and stood
up in the damn boat..."
[Snow Pea] - 11:34pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#198 of 1135)
Mason -- Sorry to hear about your coffee problem. Have you tried grinding the beans yourself?
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 11:40pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#199 of 1135)
I can hear it now...
"Grinding? You're s'posed to GRIND em?"
[Snow Pea] - 11:45pm Jul 2, 1998 EST (#200 of 1135)
Grinding is half the fun, now isn't it?
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:19am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#201 of 1135)
50 Actual Newspaper Headlines (collected by actual journalists)
1. Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says
2. Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
3. Safety Experts Say School Bus Passengers Should Be Belted
4. Drunk Gets Nine Months in Violin Case
5. Survivor of Siamese Twins Joins Parents
6. Farmer Bill Dies in House
7. Iraqi Head Seeks Arms
8. Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
9. Stud Tires Out
10. Prostitutes Appeal to Pope
11. Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over
12. Soviet Virgin Lands Short of Goal Again
13. British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands
14. Lung Cancer in Women Mushrooms
15. Eye Drops off Shelf
16. Teacher Strikes Idle Kids
17. Reagan Wins on Budget, But More Lies Ahead
18. Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim
19. Shot Off Woman's Leg Helps Nicklaus to 66
20. Enraged Cow Injures Farmer with Ax
21. Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told
22. Miners Refuse to Work after Death
23. Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
24. Stolen Painting Found by Tree
25. Two Soviet Ships Collide, One Dies
26. Two Sisters Reunited after 18 Years in Checkout Counter
27. Killer Sentenced to Die for Second Time in 10 Years
28. Never Withhold Herpes Infection from Loved One
29. Drunken Drivers Paid $1000 in `84
30. War Dims Hope for Peace
31. If Strike isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While
32. Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures
33. Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide
34. Red Tape Holds Up New Bridge
35. Deer Kill 17,000
36. Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead
37. Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge
38. New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
39. Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft
40. Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
41. Chef Throws His Heart into Helping Feed Needy
42. Arson Suspect is Held in Massachusetts Fire
43. British Union Finds Dwarfs in Short Supply
44. Ban On Soliciting Dead in Trotwood
45. Lansing Residents Can Drop Off Trees
46. Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half
47. New Vaccine May Contain Rabies
48. Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing
49. Deaf College Opens Doors to Hearing
50. Air Head Fired
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:23am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#202 of 1135)
Life's Lessons -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Money doesn't bring you happiness, but it enables you to look for it in more places.
Your conscience may not keep you from doing wrong, but it sure keeps you from enjoying it.
Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.
Misers aren't much fun to live with, but they make great ancestors.
Be careful what rut you choose. You may be in it the rest of your life.
The trouble with bucket seats is that not everybody has the same size bucket.
When you see the handwriting on the wall, you can bet you're in a public restroom.
Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.
The real reason you can't take it with you is that it goes before you do.
A person who can smile when things go wrong has found someone to blame it on.
A modern pioneer is a person who can get through a rainy Saturday when the television's on the blink.
The world is full of willing people: some willing to work and some willing to let them.
Money isn't everything....there's credit cards, money orders, and travelers checks.
Some people are like blisters. They don't show up until the work is done.
A true friend is one that lets his grass grow as tall as his neighbor's.
A baby-sitter is a teenager acting like an adult while the adults are out acting like teenagers.
If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost.
Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:25am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#203 of 1135)
What If Dr. Seuss Wrote Technical Documentation?
Here's an easy game to play.
Here's an easy thing to say:
If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report!
If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
And the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash,
And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
Then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!
You can't say this?
What a shame, Sir!
We'll find you
Another game sir.
If the label on the cable on the table at your house,
Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
But your packets want to tunnel on another protocol,
That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall,
And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss
So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse,
Then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
'Cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!
When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risc,
Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM.
Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your Mom!
Anyone without a sense of humor is at the mercy of everyone else ;-) [SherrieG] - 12:34am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#204
of 1135)
Occasionally, airline attendants make an effort to make the "inflight safety lecture" a bit more entertaining. Here are some real
examples that have been heard or reported:
"As we prepare for takeoff, please make sure your tray tables and seat backs are fully upright in their most uncomfortable
position."
"There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 4 ways out of this airplane..."
"Your seat cushions can be used for floatation, and in the event of an emergency water landing, please take them with our
compliments."
"We do feature a smoking section on this flight; if you must smoke, contact a member of the flight crew and we will escort you
to the wing of the airplane."
"Smoking in the lavatories is prohibited. Any person caught smoking in the lavatories will be asked to leave the plane
immediately."
"Good morning. As we leave Dallas, it's warm, the sun is shining, and the birds are singing. We are going to Charlotte, where it's
dark, windy and raining. Why in the world y'all wanna go there I really don't know."
Pilot - "Folks, we have reached our cruising altitude now, so I am going to switch the seat belt sign off. Feel free to move about
as you wish, but please stay inside the plane till we land... it's a bit cold outside, and if you walk on the wings it affects the flight
pattern."
Pilot - "Folks, if you were with us last week, we never got around to mentioning that it was National Procrastination day. If you
get a chance this week, please try to celebrate it. If you can't get to it, then maybe try to do it at the weekend, but no big rush.
Have a nice day."
And, after landing: "Thank you for flying Delta Business Express. We hope you enjoyed giving us the business as much as we
enjoyed taking you for a ride."
As we waited just off the runway for another airliner to cross in front of us, some of the passengers were beginning to retrieve
luggage from the overhead bins. The head steward announced on the intercom, "This aircraft is equipped with a video
surveillance system that monitors the cabin during taxiing. Any passengers not remaining in their seats until the aircraft
comes to a full and complete stop at the gate will be strip-searched as they leave the aircraft.
As the plane landed and was coming to a stop at Washington National, a lone voice comes over the loudspeaker: "Whoa, big
fella...WHOA..!"
Here are a few heard from Northwest: "Should the cabin lose pressure, oxygen masks will drop from the overhead area. Please
place the bag over your own mouth and nose before assisting children or adults acting like children."
"As you exit the plane, please make sure to gather all of your belongings. Anything left behind will be distributed evenly
among the flight attendents. Please do not leave children or spouses."
And from the pilot during his welcome message: "We are pleased to have some of the best flight attendants in the
industry...Unfortunately none of them are on this flight...!"
Anyone without a sense of humor is at the mercy of everyone else ;-) [SherrieG] - 12:44am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#205
of 1135)
Gentle Humor
Raising teenagers is like nailing Jell-o to a tree.
There is always a lot to be thankful for if you take time to look. For example, I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that
wrinkles don't hurt.
Every seven minutes of every day, someone in an aerobics class pulls a hamstring.
The best way to keep kids at home is to make the home a pleasant atmosphere ... and let the air out of their tires. -Dorothy
Parker
Car sickness is the feeling you get when the monthly car payment is due.
Families are like fudge .. mostly sweet with a few nuts.
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy.
My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.
The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.
One day I shall burst my buds of calm and blossom into hysteria.
If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts.
Life's golden age is when the kids are too old to need baby-sitters and too young to borrow the family car.
Eat a live toad first thing in the morning, and nothing worse can happen to you the rest of the day!
You know you're getting old when you stoop to tie your shoes and wonder what else you can do while you're down there.
Anyone without a sense of humor is at the mercy of everyone else ;-) [SherrieG] - 01:56am Jul 3, 1998 EST (#206
of 1135)
Subject: The Potato Family
One night, the Potato family sat down to dinner--Mother Potato and her three daughters. Midway through the meal, the eldest
daughter spoke up. "Mother Potato?" she said. "I have an announcement to make."
"And what might that be?" said Mother, seeing the obvious excitement in her eldest daughter's eyes.
"Well," replied the daughter, with a proud but sheepish grin, "I'm getting married!"
The other daughters squealed with surprise as Mother Potato exclaimed, "Married! That's wonderful! And who are you
marrying, Eldest daughter?"
"I'm marrying a Russet!"
"A Russet!" replied Mother Potato with pride. "Oh, a Russet is a fine tater, a fine tater indeed!"
As the family shared in the eldest daughter's joy, the middle daughter spoke up. "Mother? I, too, have an announcement."
"And what might that be?" encouraged Mother Potato.
Not knowing quite how to begin, the middle daughter paused, then said with conviction, "I, too, am getting married!"
"You, too!" Mother Potato said with joy. "That's wonderful! Twice the good news in one evening! And who are you marrying,
Middle Daughter?"
"I'm marrying an Idaho!" beamed the middle daughter.
"An Idaho!" said Mother Potato with joy. "Oh, an Idaho is a fine tater, a fine tater indeed!"
Once again, the room came alive with laughter and excited plans for the future, when the youngest Potato daughter
interrupted. "Mother? Mother Potato? Um, I, too, have an announcement to make."
"Yes?" said Mother Potato with great anticipation.
"Well," began the youngest Potato daughter with the same sheepish grin as her eldest sisters before her, "I hope this doesn't
come as a shock to you, but I am getting married, as well!"
"Really?" said Mother Potato with sincere excitement. "All of my lovely daughters married! What wonderful news! And who,
pray tell, are you marrying, Youngest Daughter?"
"I'm marrying Wolf Blitzer!"
"WOLF BLITZER?!" Mother Potato scowled suddenly. "But he's just a common tater!"
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 04:48pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#207 of 1135)
Dear Redneck Son:
I'm writing this letter slow because I know you can't read fast.
We don't live where we did when you left home. Your dad read in the newspaper that most accidents happen within 20 miles
from your home, so we moved.
I won't be able to send you the address because the last Arkansas family that lived here took the house numbers when they
moved so that they wouldn't have to change their address.
This place is really nice. It even has a washing machine. I'm not sure it works so well though: last week I put a load in and
pulled the chain and haven't seen them since.
The weather isn't bad here. It only rained twice last week; the first time for three days and the second time for four days.
About that coat you wanted me to send you, your Uncle Stanley said it would be to heavy to send in the mail with the buttons on,
so we cut them off and put them in the pockets.
John locked his keys in the car yesterday. We were really worried because it took him two hours to get me and your father out.
Your sister had a baby this morning; but I haven't found out what it is yet so I don't know if your an aunt or an uncle. The baby
looks just like your brother....
Uncle Ted fell in a whiskey vat last week. Some men tried to pull him out, but he fought them off playfully and drowned. We had
him cremated and he burned for three days.
Three of your friends went off a bridge in a pickup truck. Ralph was driving. He rolled down the window and swam to safety.
Your other two friends were in back. They drowned because they couldn't get the tailgate down.
There isn't much more news at this time. Nothing much has happened.
Love, Mom
Posted (not written) by Chuck (not Mom).
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 04:52pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#208 of 1135)
DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN
Three buddies die in a car crash, they go to heaven to an orientation.
They are all asked, "When you are in your casket and friends and family are mourning you, what would you like to hear them
say about you?"
The first guy says, "I would like to hear them say that I was a great doctor of my time, and a great family man."
The second guy says, "I would like to hear that I was a wonderful husband and school teacher which made a huge difference in
our children of tomorrow."
The last guy replies, "I would like to hear them say......LOOK, HE'S MOVING!!!!!"
Chuck
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 04:55pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#209 of 1135)
Not a funny, where's the kneenex?
Puppies For Sale
A store owner was tacking a sign above his door that read, "Puppies for Sale." Signs like that have a way of attracting small
children and sure enough, a little boy appeared under the store owner's sign.
"How much are you going to sell the puppies for?", he asked.
The store owner replied, "Anywhere from $30 to $50."
The little boy reached in his pocket and pulled out some change. "I have $2.37," he said, "Can I please look at them?"
The store owner smiled and out of the kennel came five teeny tiny balls of fur. One puppy was lagging considerably behind.
Immediately, the little boy singled out the lagging puppy and said, "What's wrong with that little dog?"
The store owner explained that the veterinarian had examined the little puppy and had discovered it didn't have a hip socket. It
would always limp.
The little boy became excited and said, "That's the puppy I want to buy."
The store owner said, "No, you don't want to buy that little dog. If you really want him, I'll just give him to you."
The little boy got quite upset. He looked straight into the store owner's eyes and said, "I don't want you to give him to me. That
little dog is worth every bit as much as all the other dogs, and I'll pay full price. In fact, I'll give you $2.37 now and 50 cents a
month until I have him paid for."
The store owner countered, "You don't really want to buy this little dog. He is never going to be able to run and jump and play
with you like the other puppies."
To this the little boy reached down and pulled up his pants leg to reveal a badly twisted, crippled left leg supported by a metal
brace. He looked up at the store owner and softly replied, "Well, I don't run so well myself and the little puppy will need
someone who understands."
(*Sniff*) Chuck
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 05:03pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#210 of 1135)
The CIA and The Woman Applicant
A few months ago, there was an opening with the CIA for an assassin. These highly classified positions are hard to fill, and
there's a lot of testing and background checks involved before you can even be considered for the position. After sending some
applicants through the background checks, training and testing, they narrowed the possible choices down to 2 men and a
woman, but only one position was available.
The day came for the final test to see which person would get the extremely secretive job. The CIA men administering the test
took one of the men to a large metal door and handed him a gun. "We must know that you will follow your instructions no
matter what the circumstances", they explained.
"Inside this room, you will find your wife sitting in a chair. Take this gun and kill her." The man got a shocked look on his face
and said, "You can't be serious! I could never shoot my own wife!" "Well", says the CIA man, "you're definitely not the right man
for this job then."
So they bring the second man to the same door and hand him a gun. "We must know that you will follow instructions no matter
what the circumstances", they explained to the second man. "Inside you will find your wife sitting in a chair. Take this gun and
kill her."
The second man looked a bit shocked, but nevertheless took the gun and went in the room. All was quiet for about 5 minutes,
then the door opened.
The man came out of the room with tears in his eyes. "I tried to shoot her, I just couldn't pull the trigger and shoot my wife. I
guess I'm not the right man for the job." "No" the CIA man replied, "You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and go home."
Now they're down to the woman left to test. Again they lead her to the same door to the same room and hand her the same gun.
"We must be sure that you will follow instructions no matter what the circumstances", this is your final test. Inside you will
find your husband sitting in a chair. "Take this gun and kill him." The woman took the gun and opened the door.
Before the door even closed all the way, the CIA heard the gun start firing. One shot after another for 13 shots. Then all hell
broke loose in the room.
They heard screaming, crashing, banging on the walls. This went on for several minutes, then all went quiet. The door opened
slowly, and there stood the woman.
She wiped the sweat from her brow and said "You guys didn't tell me the gun was loaded with blanks! I had to beat the son of a
bitch to death with the chair!"
Chuck
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 05:09pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#211 of 1135)
TRUE STORY
When Apollo Mission Astronaut Neil Armstrong first walked on the moon, he not only gave his famous "One small step for man,
one giant leap for mankind" statement but followed it by several remarks, usual com traffic between him,the other astronauts
and Mission Control. Just before he re-entered the lander, however, he made the enigmatic remark "Good luck Mr. Gorsky."
Many people at NASA thought it was a casual remark concerning some rival Soviet Cosmonaut. However, upon checking, there
was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs. Over the years many people questioned Armstrong as to
what the "Good luck Mr. Gorsky"
statement meant, but Armstrong always just smiled.
On July 5, 1995 in Tampa Bay FL, while answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26 year old question
to Armstrong. This time he finally responded. Mr. Gorsky had finally died and so Neil Armstrong felt he could answer the
question.
When he was a kid, he was playing baseball with a friend in the backyard. His friend hit a fly ball which landed in the front of
his neighbor's bedroom windows. His neighbors were Mr. & Mrs. Gorsky.
As he leaned down to pick up the ball, young Armstrong heard Mrs.
Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky... "Oral sex! You want oral sex?! You'll get oral sex when the kid
next door walks on the moon!"
Chuck
ChuckWM [ChuckWM] - 05:17pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#212 of 1135)
An 85 year old man was about to marry a 35 year old woman.
The old man's doctor gave him a physical before the wedding and found the man to be in the fit of health. "However, the strain
upon you with a young bride means you must have separate bedrooms and don't go anywhere on your honeymoon. Give
yourself time." The old man agreed.
Upon the wedding night the couple returned to the family home to get ready for bed, the bride to her room and the groom to
his room. Not more than five minutes passed when there was a "knock, knock" upon the woman's bedroom door.
"Come in," she said, only to fine her new husband standing there, stark naked with a smile on his face. They proceeded to make
wild and passionate love for the next hour. Finally, the old man got out of his wife's bed, turned and returned to his own room.
The new bride, drifted off to sleep.
Not more than 30 minutes passed when there was another "knock, knock" upon the woman's bedroom door.
"Come in," she said, only to fine her new husband standing there again, stark naked with a smile on his face. "This looks
interesting," the bride thought to herself and accepted the offer. They proceeded to make wild and passionate love for the next
hour. Finally, the old man got out of his wife's bed, turned and returned to his own room. The new bride, lay there, unable to
sleep.
Not more than another 30 minutes passed when there was another "knock, knock" upon the woman's bedroom door.
"Come in," she said, only to find her new husband standing there again, stark naked with a smile on his face.
"Now wait a minute there, dear. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but I've known men less than half of your age who were
lucky to make love just once a day. Tell me, my love, how DO you do it?"
The old looked at her with a quizzled face and asked, "Have I been here before?"
Chuck
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 06:43pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#213 of 1135)
TRUE STORY
Urban Legend
If there were no golf balls, how would we measure hail? [SherrieG] - 07:04pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#214 of 1135)
Hey, Chuck, that puppy story has just absolved you from every word you have ever said that pissed me off.
You now have a clean slate with me.
Sniff.
[DaveGin] - 11:16pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#215 of 1135)
Hey, folks
Just wanted to say, "Happy Birthday, America."
And to remember that America is us. The Democrats. The' Republicans. The Libertarians. The Liberals and the Conservatives.
We're going to have bad leaders and good ones and we'll always argue about which is which.
There will always be moments of pity and sorrow and almost indescribable joy at what the nation can do.
For all the bad times and bad moves, all the terrible days of depression and war and the intrigue and fear we seem to echo in
these boards, let's not forget that the system works.
We're in this national experiment for the long haul. The people will prevail. We owe it to our children to keep remembering
that.
DaveGin
[masontwo] - 11:32pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#216 of 1135)
"The people will prevail"
(DaveGin..1998)
[DaveGin] - 11:38pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#217 of 1135)
Actually, Carl Sandburg said that. I just agree with him.
DaveGin
[masontwo] - 11:44pm Jul 3, 1998 EST (#218 of 1135)
"The people will prevail"(DaveGin & Carl
Sandburg)
[_Liz_] - 03:07am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#219 of 1135)
Good message, Dave. Can I copy that elsewhere? I'll give you *both* credit.
If there were no golf balls, how would we measure hail? [SherrieG] - 03:34am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#220 of 1135)
12 ways to get rid of telemarketers:
1. If they want to loan you money, tell them you just filed for Bankruptcy and you could sure use some money.
2. If they start out with, "How are you today?" say, "Why do you want to know?" Or you can say, "I'm so glad you asked, because
no one seems to care these days and I have all these problems, my sciatica is acting up, my eyelashes are sore, my dog just
died..." When they get try to get back to the sell, just continue your problems.
3. If they say they're Joe Doe from the XYZ Company, ask them to spell their name, then ask them to spell the company name,
then ask them where it's located. Continue asking them personal questions or questions about their company for as long as
necessary.
4. This one works better if you are male: Telemarketer: "Hi, my name is Judy and I'm with Canter and Siegel services....
You: "Hang on a second." (few seconds pause) "Okay, (in a really husky voice) what are you wearing?"
5. Crying out, in well-simulated tones of pleasure and surprise, "Judy!! Is this really you? Oh, my God! Judy, how have you
BEEN?" Hopefully, this will give Judy a few brief moments of terror as she tries to figure out where the hell she could know you
from.
6. Say, "No", over and over. Be sure to vary the sound of each no, and keep an even tempo even as they're trying to speak. This
is the most fun if you can keep going until they hang up.
7. If MCI calls trying to get you to sign up with their Family and Friends plan, reply, in as sinister a voice as you can muster, "I
don't have any friends...would you be my friend?"
8. If they clean rugs: "Can you get blood out? You can? Well, how about goat blood or HUMAN blood?"
9. Let the person go through their spiel, providing minimal but necessary feedback in the form of an occasional "Uh-huh,"
"Really?", or "Thats fascinating." Finally, when they ask you to buy, ask them to marry you. They get all flustered, but just tell
them you couldn't give your credit card number to someone who's a complete stranger.
10. Tell them you work for the same company they work for. Example:
Telemarketer: "This is Bill from Watertronics."
You: "Watertronics!! Hey I work for them too. Where are you calling from?"
Telemarketer: "Uh, Dallas, Texas."
You: "Great, they have a group there too? How's business/the weather? Too bad the company has a policy against selling to
employees! Oh well, see ya."
11. Answer the phone. As soon as you realize it is a telemarketer, set the receiver down, shout or scream, "Oh, my God!!!" and
then hang up.
12. Tell the Telemarketer you are busy and if they will give you their phone number you will call them back. If they say they
are not allowed to give out their number, ask them for their home number and tell them you will call them at home. (this is
usually the most effective method of getting rid of Telemarketers)
******************************************************
How to keep yourself amused
Pick up a dog so it can see things from your point of view (Amusement Potential: 3-5 minutes).
Think about it: your dog has only seen the house from a viewpoint from 6" to 2' high (15 to 60 cm for all you metric fans). It's
never seen the tops of counters,what you keep on your desk, the tops of shelves, etc. Try looking at things from its point of
view, too.
If there were no golf balls, how would we measure hail? [SherrieG] - 03:49am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#221 of 1135)
MURPHY'S LAWS OF PARENTHOOD:
1. The tennis shoes you must replace today will go on sale next week.
2. Leakproof thermoses - aren't.
3. The chances of a piece of bread falling with the grape jelly side down is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet.
4. The garbage truck will be two doors past your house when the argument over whose day it is to take out the trash ends.
5. The shirt your child INSISTS on wearing today will be the only one that needs to be washed or mended.
6. Gym clothes left at school in lockers mildew at a faster rate than other clothing.
7. The item your child lost, and must have for school within the next ten seconds, will be found in the last place you look. (well,
of COURSE it will. Once you find it, you STOP LOOKING.)
8. Sick children recover miraculously when the pediatrician enters the treatment room.
9. Refrigerated items used daily will gravitate toward the back of the refrigerator.
10. Your chances of being seen by someone you know (or wish you knew) dramatically increase if you drive your child to
school in your robe and curlers.
Another Deep Thought:
Why do you press harder on a remote-control when you know the battery is dead?
Liberty, Liberation, Liberal... [Rocketman57] - 03:56am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#222 of 1135)
Dave,
Hi. I'm just wondering when it is you sleep so I can post a bunch of dirty stuff.
rocket
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 08:11am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#223 of 1135)
Go for it Rocket! He'll be busy doing the family stuff today!
[Johnnyba] - 09:02am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#224 of 1135)
A bus load of politicians were driving down a country road, when all of a sudden, the bus ran off the road and crashed into a
tree in an old farmer's field. The old farmer,after seeing what happened, went over to investigate. He then proceeded to dig a
hole and bury the politicians.
A few days later, the local sheriff came out, saw the crashed bus, and asked the farmer where all the politicians had gone. The
old farmer said he had buried them. The sheriff then asked the old farmer, "Were they ALL dead?" The old farmer replied,
"Well, some of them said they weren't, but you know how them politicians lie."
[DaveGin] - 10:20am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#225 of 1135)
Liz
Carl and I say go for it.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:23am Jul 4, 1998 EST (#226 of 1135)
Rockets, my name is Legion
I never sleep. I know all and see all. And I can tell you right now, you ought to stop dressing like that while your on the
computer.
People will talk.
And it wouldn't kill you to clean up the mess a bit.
DaveMom
[jollyollie] - 03:05pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#227 of 1135)
What was the issue? It was suitably labeled for those with old browsers. It was friendly, non partisan, folks were learning, no
name calling, no acrimony and totally harmless. And a pleasant diversion on a peaceful Saturday afternoon. Can't have any of
all that I spose....
[_Liz_] - 03:11pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#228 of 1135)
With regard to the burning Animated Gif debate:
No. I do not believe the world revolves around me. But I DO believe it is outrageously selfish to expect people to take the time to
download new software, and spend the inordinate amount of time, in my case HOURS, to transfer all the old stuff to the new, so
that YOU (generic you) can post gifs in a thread when you know they are locking up other people's browsers.
I'm not the first one to make this request. Enough people were having problems with them before that Dave posted a request
for you all to stop using them. But even if I WERE the only one, I don't frequent enough threads that my request should restrict
your creative urges so much.
I don't bitch about the animated gifs in the RR or any other thread. Or even any other thread I participate in. I do not protest
their use in any other thread I have parented, if they are being used there.
I do protest their use in the Cafe. They aren't allowed there. And if you have a problem with that, take it up with Dave. And then
get real used to it.
[jollyollie] - 03:15pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#230 of 1135)
Liz... you are completely wrong. This has NOTHING to do with you! And, I was very friendly toward you on your thread.
[jollyollie] - 03:15pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#231 of 1135)
I think you mistook some else's post for me.
[_Liz_] - 03:49pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#232 of 1135)
Actually, I deleted that immediately, thinking it was a bad idea...but since you answered:
If you want to say anything else, e mail it. I won't address an old fight in here again.
[jollyollie] - 05:19pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#233 of 1135)
Obviously, I read it prior to the deletion. Anyway... on to another, whole different day!
Vive la liberté [Richos] - 08:52pm Jul 4, 1998 EST (#234 of 1135)
OK Dave I have been trying to hold back on this, especially after last weeks efforts but I can't anymore. I think the three social
threads are an unneeded distraction on this board. (Paradise, RR and this one). They encourage a misguided belief of
ownership, create divisions, manufacture a more agressive form of poster and would be more at home on one of the social
threads. Maybe you could be more honest about them (ie Paradise is liberal, Rumpus is conservative but all are welcome) and
link them on the intro. A small but good change in my opinion. But having them here is in my view disruptive.
[_Liz_] - 01:05am Jul 5, 1998 EST (#235 of 1135)
The day the RR and Cafe are deleted is the day I leave, and guess what isn't happening any time soon?
Actually, concerning tailoring the club to the customer, you will find the PERFECT place for you over at TPS in the Crystal
Palace. It's called the Wine and Cheese Shope...but I think they play with the spelling a bit. ; )
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 10:25am Jul 5, 1998 EST (#236 of 1135)
"Appropo Signs"
On an Electrician's truck: "Let us remove your shorts."
Outside a Radiator Repair Shop: "Best place in town to take a leak."
In a Nonsmoking area: "If we see you smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action."
On Maternity Room door: "Push, Push, Push."
On a Front Door: "Everyone on the premises is a vegetarian except the dog."
At an Optometrist's Office: "If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right place."
On a Scientist's door: "Gone Fission."
On a Taxidermist's window: "We really know our stuff."
In a Podiatrist's window: "Time wounds all heels."
On a Butcher's window: "Let me meat your needs."
On another Butcher's window: "Pleased to meat you."
At a Used Car Lot: "Second Hand cars in first crash condition."
On a fence: "Salesmen welcome. Dog food is expensive."
At a Car Dealership: "The best way to get back on your feet - miss a car payment."
Outside a Muffler Shop: "No appointment necessary. We'll hear you coming."
Outside a Hotel: "Help! We need inn-experienced people."
In a Dry Cleaner's Emporium: "Drop your pants here."
On a desk in a Reception Room: "We shoot every 3rd salesman, and the 2nd one just left."
In a Veterinarian's waiting room: "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!"
On a Music Teacher's door: "Out Chopin."
At the Electric Company: "We would be delighted if you send in your bill. However, if you don't, you will be."
In a Beauty Shop: "Dye now!"
On the door of a Computer Store: "Out for a quick byte."
In a Restaurant window: "Don't stand there and be hungry, come in and get fed up."
Inside a Bowling Alley: "Please be quiet. We need to hear a pin drop."
On the door of a Music Library: "Bach in a minute."
In the front yard of a Funeral Home: "Drive carefully, we'll wait."
In a Counselor's office: "Growing old is mandatory. Growing wise is optional."
Vive la liberté [Richos] - 11:34am Jul 5, 1998 EST (#237 of 1135)
Liz, I can't be bothered getting myself worked up over an issue unless there's some sort of challenge. Lame attempts at insult
don't qualify.
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 11:46am Jul 5, 1998 EST (#238 of 1135)
The challenge, richos...
...is that you're probably alone in your protestations regarding this thread. What say you ignore it, remove it from your picks,
and otherwise give it not another thought. We'll all be the better for it.
Paradise be damned [Richos] - 12:24pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#239 of 1135)
Hoeker I made a suggestion regarding what I think has become a corrupting presence on this board. If you disagree with me
fine, I welcome the debate but that last post was a response to Liz's inability to address the post.
If I respond the same way to your inability to address the post it would not be productive. And then you would come back at me
and accuse me of doing what in reality you are doing. So Hoeker why don't you stop whining and accept my right to post an
opinion.
Getting back to the issue that I raised I would like to point out that although it is no doubt a view of very few other posters in
here, that doesn't mean it doesn't have any merit. I'm sure you have noticed that there are very few new posters coming onto
the boards and this may be one of the reasons they arn't. Without a new generation and with old posters either leaving or
making most of their posts on the social threads the board seems to be going senile.
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 12:30pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#240 of 1135)
Oh, the irony...
Don't you see, Richos? You offer a post whining about a thread or two that you dislike, I offer you a suggestion as to how you
could eliminate your dispepsia, and you come back with more whining. Some introspect might be in order for you at this time.
Get in touch with your feelings, man. Give yourself a hug. Go fishing. Or not, as you see fit.
Paradise be damned [Richos] - 12:45pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#241 of 1135)
Suddenly one day in PF land all the established posters decided that they shared lots of lovely things like values, morals and
similar views. Oh sure they disagreed who could best lead them but basically they were happy with life and despite some smoke
in the air from some small fires around the place everything was kept mostly in it's place. But occasionally someone popped
past this little town stopped in for a brief chat and invariably stated that this idyllic world was an illusion. Now this happenned
reasonably often despite the "Not Welcome" signs posted around the little town and the posters invariably called such people
"whiners" because, well there's not really a because it's just that somebody said it once when they disagreed with one of these
interlopers and it just sort of caught on.
Gone Fishing.
If there were no golf balls, how would we measure hail? [SherrieG] - 01:04pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#242 of 1135)
Well, look at it this way, Richos.
Some people LIKE threads where they don't have to spend all their time looking for the stab in the back, and they tend to get a
little testy when someone wants to come in with a switchblade.
[_Liz_] - 03:46pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#243 of 1135)
Liz, I can't be bothered getting myself worked up over an issue unless there's some sort of challenge.<
Shoot...I screwed up that 'tone' thing again, didn't I?
Richos, it appears you get yourself worked up over a very little bit at the drop of a hat and have a very, very difficult time with
opposing views. You spend an inordinate amount of time bemoaning your mistreatment, and you seem a little full of yourself
too.
Hope I did the tone thing better this time.
Paradise be damned [Richos] - 04:19pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#244 of 1135)
Liz, I could have sworn I just read your self description. Can I make a suggestion? If you go to "about me" at the top of your
screen you can post it in to your bio.
Dave can I politely suggest there's some ad homs to remove around here.
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 06:00pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#245 of 1135)
E-mail, richos...
Use e-mail to complain about perceived mistreatment, per the instructions.
[_Liz_] - 06:24pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#246 of 1135)
Damn...I just can't seem to get that 'tone' thing right....
If there were no golf balls, how would we measure hail? [SherrieG] - 06:27pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#247 of 1135)
Jake is struggling through a bus station with two huge and obviously heavy suitcases when a stranger walks up to him and
asks "Have you got the time?"
Jake sighs, puts down the suitcases and glances at his wrist. "It's a quarter to six," he says.
"Hey, that's a pretty fancy watch!" exclaims the stranger.
Jake brightens a little. "Yeah, it's not bad. Check this out" - and he shows him a time zone display not just for every time zone in
the world, but for the 86 largest metropolis. He hits a few buttons and from somewhere on the watch a voice says "The time is
eleven 'til six" in a very West Texas accent. A few more buttons and the same voice says something in Japanese.
Jake continues "I've put in regional accents for each city". The display is of unbelievably high quality and the voice is simply
astounding.
The stranger is struck dumb with admiration. "That's not all," says Jake. He pushes a few more buttons and a tiny but very
high-resolution map of New York City appears on the display. "The flashing dot shows our location by satellite positioning,"
explains Jake. "View recede ten," Jake says, and the display changes to show eastern New York state.
"I want to buy this watch!" says the stranger.
"Oh, no, it's not ready for sale yet; I'm still working out the bugs," says Jake. "But look at this," and he proceeds to demonstrate
that the watch is also a very creditable little FM radio receiver with a digital tuner, a sonar device that can measure distances
up to 125 meters, a pager with thermal paper printout and, "Most impressive of all," Jake finishes, "the capacity for voice
recordings of up to 300 standard-size books, though I only have 32 of my favorites in there so far."
"I've got to have this watch!" says the stranger.
"No, you don't understand; it's not ready."
"I'll give you $1000 for it!"
"Oh, no, I've already spent more than -"
"I'll give you $5000 for it!"
"But it's just not -"
"I'll give you $15,000 for it!" And the stranger pulls out an enormous wad of cash.
Jake stops to think. He's only put about $8500 into materials and development, and with $15,000 he can make another one and
have it ready for merchandising in only six months. The stranger frantically finishes counting out money and waves it in
front of Jake. "Here it is, ready to hand to you right here and now. $15,000. Take it or leave it."
Jake abruptly makes his decision. "OK," he says, and peels off the watch.
They make the exchange and the stranger starts happily away.
"Hey, wait a minute," calls Jake after the stranger, who turns around warily. Jake points to the two suitcases he'd been trying to
wrestle through the bus station. "Don't forget your batteries."
[DaveGin] - 09:27pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#248 of 1135)
Sorry to be late, folks...
But I've just driven five hours after spending the 4th with my parents. It turned into a family reunion. We even watched a
fireworks show in the rain.
My 72-year-old father, who just had cardiac surgery last March (he had a valve replaced - and was playing golf again a month
later) had an independence day of sorts himself.
He sent his very first piece of email. And was taught by his two grandsons, ages 13 and 8.
When we left this morning, he was looking at the computer sales in the Best Buy ads.
DaveGin
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:32pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#249 of 1135)
So, Dave
Should we expect to see your Dad posting here soon? I hope he appreciates a good joke better than you do!
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 09:33pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#250 of 1135)
Go, Daddy McLemore, go...
I had the same experience with my mother. Up until a few months ago, she thought the primary function of my computer was
for her to use it to play Mah-Jongg. I let her have an ICQ chat with my sister, and now she's lobbying my dad for one of her
own.
[jollyollie] - 09:37pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#251 of 1135)
I've tried to get my Dad interested in computers... no luck. Dad prides himself on walking through an entire mall, and not
buying a thing.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:38pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#252 of 1135)
Cousin Jolly
Our Dad's must be brothers!
[jollyollie] - 09:47pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#253 of 1135)
Mel, he actually goes to the states, comes back and takes great pride in telling customs "nothing to declare". They never get
that! They ask , "no tobacco, no alcohol...." Dad smirks, "none"! He WANTS them to search his car! Just so he can say "see,
nothing"!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:49pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#254 of 1135)
Hmmmm, sounds like something you'd do!
[jollyollie] - 09:52pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#255 of 1135)
Hell no, I stock up, smokes, 40 ouncers, salsa, bean dip, Vikings stuff!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:53pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#256 of 1135)
What's a 40 ouncer?
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 09:54pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#257 of 1135)
melanie...
It's a large brewski.
[DaveGin] - 09:55pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#258 of 1135)
Why, Mel, you wound me deeply
I find a lot of things funny. Flickering computer images and bodily functions just don't rate high on my Laugh-O-Meter.
BTW: It's been a policy on these boards for a long, long time that Java applets and jumpy little GIFs cause more problems for
other posters than the joy they bring to some.
About my Dad....who knows. He may show up and he's welcome. As long as he obeys the rules.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 09:56pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#259 of 1135)
BTW Jollie...
Your email address - yep, the new one -- is still bouncing back to me as undeliverable.
DaveGin
[jollyollie] - 09:58pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#260 of 1135)
40 ouncer... hard stuff. Dave, I hope your Dad's a feisty guy for a very long time! And I hope he comes and shares Davie stories!!!
[jollyollie] - 09:58pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#261 of 1135)
My gawd, the viking one?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:02pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#262 of 1135)
Dave, would I try to wound you?
Not this sweet little Republican woman!
[DaveGin] - 10:04pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#263 of 1135)
Why Mel...I never said you were a sweet little Republican woman. I simply said I had this mental image of you as one.
If that image is wrong, why please accept my deepest apologies.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:05pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#264 of 1135)
Yep, Jim. The Viking one.
Dave
[jollyollie] - 10:07pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#265 of 1135)
Does this mean I don't really exist???? I think therfore I.... Dave, move away from that control....
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:10pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#266 of 1135)
Dave
I just told you I am one!
Your mental image was a bit off, and all the apologies in the world can never make unsaid the words you used, but be assured, I
am a sweet little Republican woman!
[DaveGin] - 10:21pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#267 of 1135)
Oh, you exist, JO...Since my email can't get to you, maybe I hit the wrong switch.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:22pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#268 of 1135)
Well, I'm glad Mel...
I never had a moment's doubt.
DaveGin
[_Liz_] - 10:26pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#269 of 1135)
Welcome back, Dave!!!
I'm pleased to hear your Dad is ok. I have been wondering this weekend about it, but be careful....I set my mother up on the net,
and now she's on almost all the time. My sister, who still lives with her, can't use the phone at all anymore.
[_Liz_] - 10:28pm Jul 5, 1998 EST (#270 of 1135)
Ooops...almost forgot...if you'll just turn around....
smooch smooch smooch*
[DaveGin] - 12:08am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#271 of 1135)
Somebody is having a birthday today
He's the spitting image of Sean Connery. Except he's shorter, heavier, has more hair and no beard. And doesn't speak with a
Scottish brogue.
He does speak fluent Texan, however.
I don't want to spoil any surprises you may have prepared...You do have surprises, right?
DaveGin
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 12:10am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#272 of 1135)
Happy Birthday DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, we have NICE surprises. I haven't called anyone a moron all night ;-D
[DaveGin] - 12:15am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#273 of 1135)
That's no surprise, Sherrie
That's a miracle.
DaveGin
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 12:18am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#274 of 1135)
heheheh I THOUGHT about it once or twice though.
[_Liz_] - 12:19am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#275 of 1135)
((((((((((((((Happy Birthday Dave!!!!))))))))))))
We just got home, and HERE it is still MY son's b'day! So you two are kinda twins. Almost. Sorta.
And for you, for the day, I will NOT call anyone any variation whatsoever of a racist or a bad word, nor will I cast any
aspersions on their lineage.
Top THAT, Sherrie!
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 12:20am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#276 of 1135)
Nyah nyah nyah, I defended Babs on the Atomic bomb thread.
TOP THAT, LIZZIE.
[_Liz_] - 12:27am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#277 of 1135)
Drats.
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 12:27am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#278 of 1135)
Heheheheheh.
[_Liz_] - 12:32am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#279 of 1135)
You know, I *really* don't like you.
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 01:27am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#280 of 1135)
don't be silly, you love me to death.
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 01:42am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#281 of 1135)
I got this in email from my kid brother and thought here was a perfect place to put it.
A PRAYER FOR THE CHILDREN
We pray for the children
who sneak popsicles before supper,
who erase holes in math workbooks,
who can never find their shoes.
And we pray for those
who stare at photographers from behind barbed wire,
who can't bound down the street in a new pair of sneakers,
who never "counted potatoes,"
who are born in places where we wouldn't be caught dead,
who never go to the circus,
who live in a X-rated world.
We pray for children
who bring us sticky kisses and fistfuls of dandelions,
who hug us in a hurry and forget their lunch money.
And we pray for those who never get dessert,
who have no safe blanket to drag behind them,
who watch their parents watch them die,
who can't find any bread to steal,
who don't have any rooms to clean up,
whose pictures aren't on anybody's dresser,
whose monsters are real.
We pray for children
who spend all their allowance before Tuesday,
who throw tantrums in the grocery store and pick at their food,
who like ghost stories,
who shove dirty clothes under the bed,
who never rinse out the tub,
who get visits from the tooth fairy,
Who don't like to be kissed in front of the carpool,
who squirm in church and scream in the phone,
whose tears we sometimes laugh at and whose smiles can make us cry.
And we pray for those
whose nightmares come in the daytime,
who will eat anything,
who have never seen a dentist,
who aren't spoiled by anybody,
who go to bed hungry and cry themselves to sleep,
Who live and move, but have no being.
We pray for children
who want to be carried and for those who must,
who we never give up on,
and for those who don't get a second chance.
For those we smother and . . .
for those who will grab the hand of anybody kind enough to offer it.
In Memory of........
Natalie Brooks, student age 12
Paige Ann Herring, student age 12
Stephanie Johnson, student age 12
Brittany R. Varner, student age 11
Shannon Wright, Teacher age 32
This is in memory of the children and teacher killed in the shooting on Tuesday, March 24, 1998, in Jonesboro, Arkansas.
Also in Memory of......
Mikael Nickolauson, student age 17
Ben Walker, student age 16
This is also in memory of the two teenagers killed in the shooting on Thursday, May 21, 1998, in Springfield, Oregon.
[_Liz_] - 01:50am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#282 of 1135)
Thanks, Sherrie....I am saving that one, and it makes me feel a little more blessed to have my kids so safe tonight.
And yes...I do adore you.
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 01:54am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#283 of 1135)
Just in case anyone wonders, my kid brother is 42 years old, has been a california highway patrol officer for about twenty
years and would just as soon rip yer head off and spit down yer neck as look at ya. But I think this is waycool.
[_Liz_] - 02:05am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#284 of 1135)
Gee....MY brother is a major screwup I don't even talk to anymore. Wanna trade??
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 02:06am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#285 of 1135)
Naah, I'm kinda used to this one.
[_Liz_] - 02:13am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#286 of 1135)
Well, hell, then...just take him.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 11:12am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#287 of 1135)
Brain Cells"
All babies start out with the same number of raw cells which, over nine months, develop into a complete female baby. The
problem occurs when cells are instructed by the little chromosomes to make a male baby instead.
Because there are only so many cells to go around, the cells necessary to develop a male's reproductive organs have to come
from cells already assigned elsewhere in the female. Recent tests have shown that these cells are removed from the
communications center of the brain, migrate lower in the body and develop into male sexual organs. If you visualize a normal
brain to be similar to a full deck of cards, this means that males are born a few cards short, so to speak. And some of their cards
are in their shorts. This difference between the male and female brain manifests itself in various ways.
Little girls will tend to play things like house or learn to read. Little boys, however, will tend to do things like placing a bucket
over their heads and running into walls. Little girls will think about doing things before taking any action. Little boys will
just punch or kick something and will look surprised if someone asks them why they just punched their little brother who was
half asleep and looking the other way. This basic cognitive difference continues to grow until puberty, when the hormones
kick into action and the trouble really begins.
After puberty, not only the size of the male and female brains differ, but the center of thought also differs. Women think with
their heads. Male thoughts often originate lower in their bodies where their ex-brain cells reside. Of course, the size of this
problem varies from man to man. In some men only a small number of brain cells migrate and they are left with nearly full
mental capacity but they tend to be rather dull, sexually speaking. Such men are known in medical terms as "Republicans."
Other men suffer larger brain cell relocation. These men are medically referred to as "Democrats." A small number of men
suffer massive brain cell migration to their groins. These men are usually referred to as..... "Mr. President."
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 11:13am Jul 7, 1998 EST (#288 of 1135)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DAVE!!!! :-D
[_Liz_] - 04:28pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#289 of 1135)
LOL, Cooter!
Practitioner of Incomplete Oral Sex [TireBiter] - 04:53pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#290 of 1135)
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted,
cowboys deranged, models deposed and dry cleaners depressed? If so, then laundry workers could decrease, eventually
becoming depressed and even depleted!
What's more, bedmakers will be debunked, baseball players debased, landscapers deflowered, bulldozer operators degraded,
organ donors delivered, software engineers detested, and musical composers will eventually decompose.
On a more positive note though, perhaps we can hope politicians will be devoted.
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 05:14pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#291 of 1135)
OK...
Can Louie be denied, or a baby decried? Can a teacher degrade, or an Olympian deluge? Should a political convention have a
denominator? Will a car thief depart?
Just for today, I will not sit in my living room all day in my underwear in the Paradise Cafe. Instead, I will
move my computer into the bedroom. [SherrieG] - 08:31pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#292 of 1135)
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
The 'cascadia loggius interuptus,' a subspecies of humans we need more of.--Ferret Mike [hobbb] - 08:41pm Jul
7, 1998 EST (#293 of 1135)
Happy birthday to you.....You oversee a zoo......men smell like monkeys.......so ollie must mean you too.(happy b-day Dave)
[_Liz_] - 08:56pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#294 of 1135)
H A P P Y
B I R T H D A Y
D A V E !!!
[_Liz_] - 08:58pm Jul 7, 1998 EST (#295 of 1135)
MINE was more colorful, Cooter. : P
[DaveGin] - 12:42am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#296 of 1135)
What I did on my 52nd Birthday.
I drove many miles in too few hours to cover the shooting death of two Border Patrol agents along the southern end of Texas.
A man looking for his ex-girlfriend tracked her to the house she was staying. There, he killed a mother and daughter and
wounded a young man. The girlfriend he didn't shoot.
He was chased by police to his father's house. There, he stepped out of a cornfield and opened fire on seven law enforcement
officers, killing the two BP agents and wounding a deputy sheriff.
The shooter, a 25-year-old man was gunned down by the other cops and died at the hospital.
One of the agents was 24. He had been on the BP since September. The woman was 29 and had been a BP agent on the border
since 1992. She loved the job. Felt it was important.
The two women had given shelter to a friend.
After hours of frantic phone calls, gathering information from people too pissed and too much in shock to give it, I cobbled a
story together on deadline. Then I headed home.
During the drive back, I had time to reflect. In the short span of a summer day, five people were dead. Because someguy
couldn't accept no for an answer.
I hate stories like this because there is absolutely no moral to them. No lessons learned. Just stupid waste and five families left
trying to understand what happened.
I got home late. But it was still my birthday. I walked in, dropped my notes and my computer and went to the dining room.
There, a cake and presents waited and my kids and my wife yelled "Surprise." They gave me hugs and sang Happy Birthday and
we had cake and milk and I've never been so happy to see four people in my life.
They wondered perhaps why I hugged them back a little harder than usual. Maybe not.
DaveGin
[cabot] - 12:59am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#297 of 1135)
Dave-
I've read and reread your post.
You and the families involved have my sympathy.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:01am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#298 of 1135)
Cabot, my friend...
For all your posturing, you really ARE one of the good'uns.
[cabot] - 01:05am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#299 of 1135)
Why thank you, SherrieG!
You've made my day already.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:05am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#300 of 1135)
Hehehe Cabot, I took ya up on your proposed epitaph thread...
[cabot] - 01:10am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#301 of 1135)
SherrieG-
I knew some body would.
Might be a hoot.
Ray--Well, of course ARMED peasants tend to be uppity! [wardaddy] - 01:13am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#302 of 1135)
Dave
I've sat here for nearly an hour trying to think of something profound or intelligent to post in answer to your post above.
Many thoughts have run through my mind, but nothing appropriate seems to come to mind. Your post is very eloquent and
very powerful.
May God hold in his hand those who have been so deeply affected by this and welcome into His presence those who have died.
May He place His hand upon the hearts of those who are left behind and heal them.
[GOPGrandma] - 01:27am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#303 of 1135)
David Luckie, great to see you!
[spagz] - 02:33am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#304 of 1135)
Hi! New guy here.Enjoy the posts ihave read so far BUT Is there a probationary period I have to go through before I get any
response on the polical boards?Just perplexed!spagz
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 02:37am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#305 of 1135)
Nahh, Spazz, as soon as babette gets a load of you, you will be properly slimed. Apparently she thinks its a rite of passage.
[Medgar E] - 02:42am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#306 of 1135)
Dave, you are 52? So you were born in 1946? Hummm, that boosts my theory about whites born in the 50s and 40s and their
positions of "power" today. lol
Anyways........happy birthday.........
[masontwo] - 03:07am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#307 of 1135)
Dave..ever consider moving out of the state?
Really, life needn't be that bloody depressing...People spend way too much time in air conditioned cars....
Spend your 53rd in a happier place...
[_Liz_] - 03:29am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#308 of 1135)
Dave, I couldn't think of anything poignant or eloquent to say at all. That last line about hugs said it all.
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 06:41am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#309 of 1135)
Tony...
Is there any subject that is immune from your moronic racial extrapolations?
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 08:47am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#310 of 1135)
Dave, after reading your post, it reaffirms my belief that most of us need to be thankful for what we have, rather than
complain about what we don't. It was about that time that my daughter came home after being gone for several days, and my
son came down for a couple of days also. The place always becomes a wreck, and carefully prepared suppers get missed because
of friends and such, but all of that is a small price to pay for their company.
Tony, I was born in '44, and I'm still waiting for my power to show up. ;-)
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 09:49am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#311 of 1135)
GOPGrandma,
It's great to be back!
Spagz,
You have to join a clique, I think. <wink>
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 09:50am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#312 of 1135)
WHAT EMPLOYMENT ADS REALLY MEAN...
"COMPETITIVE SALARY:" We remain competitive by paying less than our competitors.
"JOIN OUR FAST-PACED COMPANY:" We have no time to train you.
"CASUAL WORK ATMOSPHERE:" We don't pay enough to expect that you'll dress up; well, a couple of the real daring guys wear
earrings.
"MUST BE DEADLINE ORIENTED:" You'll be six months behind schedule on your first day.
"SOME OVERTIME REQUIRED:" Some overtime each night and some overtime each weekend.
"DUTIES WILL VARY:" Everyone in the office can boss you around.
"MUST HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL:" We have no quality control.
"CAREER-MINDED:" Female applicants must be childless (and remain that way).
"APPLY IN PERSON:" If you're old, fat, or ugly, you'll be told the position has been filled.
"NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE:" We've filled the job; our call for resumes is just a legal formality.
"SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE EXPERIENCE:" You'll need it to replace three people who just left.
"PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS A MUST:" You're walking into a company in perpetual chaos.
"REQUIRES TEAM LEADERSHIP SKILLS:" You'll have the responsibilities of a manager, without the pay or respect.
"GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS:" Management communicates, you listen, figure out what they want and do it.
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 09:54am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#313 of 1135)
Dave, with your post and the pictures of that tunnel, it certainly makes you wonder about "guarding our borders", and if it is
worth it. Sorry you had to go through that and the families too.
Speaking of air-conditioning, mine quit Friday afternoon and of course NO repair persons (?) were to be found. We tried to
tough it out, but by Sunday gave up to a motel. Here in Texas the temperatures are mean this year. It has been 98-107 every day
for a month and no rain. All the crops are dying and so is my grass. Anyway, I've been gone and missed you guys and the whole
time we were gone wondered what was going on here in BB land.
Must be getting addicted to this!
[DaveGin] - 09:56am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#314 of 1135)
For the birthday wishes and kind words, thank you all
Cabot: Sherrie is right, you are one of the good guys.
Tony: Thanks for the B-Day message. But if I've got the power, why am I driving 335 miles to cover a story on my birthday? <g>
Liz, your words were just right.
Mason, had I not had air-conditioning on a 107-degree day, I'd have been a puddle somewhere on the highway.
Ray and Cooter: Pretty perceptive for a couple of southern guys. The joy we take for granted can be gone in a minute. So revel
it it every chance you get.
Amen.
DaveGin
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 09:57am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#315 of 1135)
We are also getting a new roof and paint job and this is the first time I've had to deal with a less than professional contractor
(no one else available). I wish I was in Alaska.
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 10:00am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#316 of 1135)
Happy 52nd - and many more Dave.
[DaveGin] - 10:05am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#317 of 1135)
Thanks, Linda.
Ain't dealing with contractors fun? We had a roofer a few years ago who "forgot" to put new boards under the felt and shingles.
Looked like Niagra when it rained.
DaveGin
MICROSOFT NEWS RELEASE:
It has come to our attention that a few copies of the North Carolina edition of windows 98 may have accidentally been shipped
outside NC.
If you have one of the NC editions you may need some help understanding the commands. The NC edition may be recognized by
looking at the opening screen.
It reads WINDERS 98 with a background picture of the General Lee superimposed on a Confederate flag.
It is shipped with a Daisy Duke screen saver.
Also note the Recycle Bin is labeled Outhouse, My Computer is called This Infernal Contraption, Dialup Networking is called
Good Ol' Boys, Control Panel is known as the Dern Dashboard, Hard Drive is referred to as 4 wheel drive, and floppies are them
little ole plastic disc thangs. Instead of an error message you get a winder covered with a garbage bag and duct tape.
Other Commands:
OK = ats aww-right
cancel = hail no
reset = awa shoot
yes = shore!
no = Naaaa
find = hunt-fer it
go to = over yonder
back = back yonder
help = hep me out here
stop = ternit off
start = crank it up
settings = sittins
programs = stuff at does stuff
documents = stuff I done done
Also note that winders 98 does not recognize capital letters or punctuation marks.
Some programs that are exclusive to winders 98
tiperiter...........A word processor
colering book.......a graphics program
addin mershene......calculator
outhouse paper .....notepad
jupe-box ...........CD Player
iner-net............Microsoft Explorer
pichers.............A graphics viewer
IRS.................M/S accounting software
IRS2................M/S accounting software with hidden files
coon dog............American kennel club records
fishin..............Bass Anglers Sportsman Society records.
NRA.................National Rifle Association
shot gun ...........Remington Arms price list
riffel..............Winchester price list
pisstel.............Smith & Wesson price list
truck...............Ford & Chevrolet dealers in NC by zip code
house...............Nearest Mobile home repair service by zip code
car ................same as truck just need two lists in North Carolina
cuzzins.............family history; usually a 3 meg file
tax records.........usually an empty file
shells..............ammunition inventory; another 3 meg file
bud.................list of Budwiser dealers by zip code
rasin...............NASCAR racing schedule includes list of TV stations that carry the race
car n truck Parts...nearest junkyard by zip code
doc ................veterinarians by zip code
We regret any inconvenience it may have caused if you received a copy of the NC edition. You may return it to Microsoft for a
replacement version.
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 10:06am Jul 8, 1998 EST (#319 of 1135)
Alaska!
I've been to Alaska in the summer. It's nice and cool out, but the moment you step outside, the mosquitos lift you off and carry
you to a properly secluded feeding ground...
That's if you survive the final approach to Anchorage's airport.
[spagz] - 02:17pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#320 of 1135)
Just returned from a trip to Brainard,MN.(Fargo fame) Onthe way there,in a driving rainstorm,my wife and I looked to the side
of the road and saw a drenched man using an old-fashioned tire pump on a boat trailer.The odd part was there was no car or
truck attached to the trailer! We were laughing so hard we almost wrecked the car.He had to be the most forlone creature on
the face of the planet OR he really believed that it was time for a Noah's arc moment.spagz
The 'cascadia loggius interuptus,' a subspecies of humans we need more of.--Ferret Mike [hobbb] - 02:41pm Jul
8, 1998 EST (#321 of 1135)
Ray--Well, of course ARMED peasants tend to be uppity!
I love it Ray, you could make up and sell appropriate tags for all of us that would sell well.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:46pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#322 of 1135)
A frog goes into a bank and approaches the teller.
He can see from his name plate that the teller's name is Paddy Whack. So he says, "Mr Whack, I'd like to get a loan to buy a boat
and go on holiday".
Paddy Whack looks at the frog in disbelief and asks how much he wants to borrow.
The frog says 30,000 dollars. The teller asks his name and the frog says his name is Kermit Jagger and that it's ok, he knows the
bank manager.
Paddy explains that 30,000 dollars is a substantial amount of money and that he would need to secure some collateral against the
loan and asks if he has anything he can use as collateral. The frog says "Sure. I have this" and produces a tiny pink elephant,
about half an inch tall. Bright pink and perfectly formed.
Very confused, Paddy explains that he'll have to consult with the manager and disappears into a back office. He finds the
manager and says:
"There's a frog called Kermit Jagger out there who claims to know you and wants to borrow 30 grand. And he wants to use this
as collateral"
He holds up the tiny pink elephant "I mean, what the f%_# is this?"
The bank manager replies: "It's a knick knack, Paddy Whack. Give the frog a loan, his old man's a Rolling Stone."
:::::RUNNING BACK TO THE OFFICE:::::
Shroom [Shroom] - 04:10pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#323 of 1135)
Sherrie,
*GROAN*
You better run!
:)
[jollyollie] - 05:30pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#324 of 1135)
Spagz... where are you from?
[spagz] - 07:47pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#325 of 1135)
jollyollie Not from MN.We were there for a wedding Iam from Pgh.My wife is from E TX.
[_Liz_] - 09:07pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#326 of 1135)
I tell Lyle all the time to count his blessings. Things have been very tough lately, financially and he just lost a much loved
grandfather, he works like a horse....we don't have all the things he wants us to, and we can't go all the places. I tell him all the
time we have a BEAUTIFUL apartment that is bigger than alot of houses, we are all healthy right now, and the kids come
running to the door every day to say hi to you. They didn't give their biological father anything at all for Father's Day but were
frantic trying to pick out the right thing for Lyle. He says things are as bad as they can get right now, but the way I see it, our
lives are so blessed and we are so fortunate. There are things it would be fun to have, but really...how can it get much better?
Men have a hard time seeing that. Especially the brontosaurus killing ones.
[Snow Pea] - 09:43pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#327 of 1135)
Liz, your perspective on life is as bright as the sun.
Dave, that post about your birthday was just about the most moving thing I have read on this board.
You put up with all the crap we dish out and continually show us what a fine man you are.
To Dave!
[jollyollie] - 10:41pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#328 of 1135)
Gee Spagz, that's a long haul! (assuming you drove it). I'm very familiar with that part of the world.
[spagz] - 11:40pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#329 of 1135)
jollieollie No we flew to Minn-St Paul then drove up in a rental.First time there for both of us.Had a good time tho.Of course my
wife has always said i could have a good time in a phonebooth. She knows me well!
[spagz] - 11:58pm Jul 8, 1998 EST (#330 of 1135)
jollieollie WE flew to Minn-St.Paul then drove up in a rental.Have never been there.Had a great time tho. Of course,my wife has
always said I could have a good time in a phonebooth.She knows me well!
[jollyollie] - 12:09am Jul 9, 1998 EST (#331 of 1135)
Spagz, lucky for you it wasn't winter!
[spagz] - 12:57am Jul 9, 1998 EST (#332 of 1135)
jollieollie IF it was winter we would be someplace warm.My idea of roughing it is staying at a hotel that does not put a mint on
the pillow.spagz
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:06am Jul 9, 1998 EST (#333 of 1135)
It was the first day of 3rd Grade in a new town for Johnny.
As a test, his teacher went around the room and asked each of the students to count to 50. Some did very well, counting as high
as 30 or 40 with just a few mistakes. Others couldn't get past 20.
Johnny, however, did extremely well; he counted past 50, right up to 100 without any mistakes. He was so excited that he ran
home and told his Dad how well he had done. His Dad nodded and told him, "That's because you are from Alabama, son."
The next day, in language class, the teacher asked the class to recite the alphabet. It's 3rd Grade, so most could make it halfway
through without much trouble. Some made it to S or T, but Johnny rattled off the alphabet perfectly right to the end. That
evening, Johnny once again bragged to his Dad about his prowess in his new school.
His Dad, knowingly, explained to him, "That's because you are from Alabama, son."
The next day, after Physical Education, the boys were taking showers. Johnny noted that, compared to the other boys in his
grade, he seemed overly "well endowed". This confused him. That night he told his dad, "Dad, they all have little tiny ones, but
mine is ten times bigger than theirs. Is that because I'm from Alabama?" he asked.
"No, son," explained his Dad, "That's because you're 18."
[_Liz_] - 01:12am Jul 9, 1998 EST (#334 of 1135)
ROFLMBO!
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 12:54pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#335 of 1135)
A lady goes to the doctor and complains that her husband is losing interest in sex.
The doctor gives her a pill, but warns her it is still experimental and tells her to slip it into his mashed potatoes at dinner. So,
that night at dinner, she does.
About a week later she's back at the doctor.
She says, "Doc, the pill worked great!! I put it in the potatoes like you said! It wasn't five minutes and he jumps up, rakes all the
food and dishes on the floor, grabs me, rips all my clothes off and ravages me right there on the table!"
The doctor says, "I'm sorry, we didn't realize the pill was that strong. The foundation will be glad to pay for any damages."
"Naah... ", she says, "that's okay. We aren't going back to that Restaurant anyway."
Ray--Shoot low, boys, they're riding shetlands! [wardaddy] - 01:58pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#336 of 1135)
Hey, Dave!
How come: When I leave the board to go to another board and then come back here, I get back 25 miutes before I left? (That's
what the times that the messages that are posted say anyway.)
[DaveGin] - 02:09pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#337 of 1135)
Ray
My posts show they're about six or seven minutes behind the watch on my wrist.
Which means that we've entered the Pathfinder Zone, where time has no meaning.
Or your computer clock is off.
Take your pick.
DaveGin
Ray--Turn on the lights! It's darker'n midnight under a skillet in here. [wardaddy] - 02:16pm Jul 9, 1998 EST
(#338 of 1135)
It's a Bill Gates' thing.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 02:18pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#339 of 1135)
Hey Dave, wanna hear something scary?
My time on my posts is in sync with the real world!
[_Liz_] - 02:24pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#340 of 1135)
"Naah... ", she says, "that's okay. We aren't going back to that Restaurant anyway."
You know, I have long had this fantasy..well, never mind. *s*
[_Liz_] - 02:25pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#341 of 1135)
I like the idea of the PF zone....it would explain alot.
I hope you all noticed I did not get ONE post pulled from the Gays and Christian thread...ahem ahem..
Ray--Annoy a gungrabber--recite facts. [wardaddy] - 05:48pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#342 of 1135)
Dave
Did you see my post about Nanking over on Richos' CNN thread? I entered the word <nanking> in WebFerret and got 500 hits.
[DaveGin] - 05:55pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#343 of 1135)
It is a powerful search engine, Ray. Thanks for the tip.
DaveGin
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 08:24pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#344 of 1135)
Sister Margaret died and through some error found herself in hell. She immediately called Saint Peter and said, "This is Sister
Margaret. There's been a terrible mistake!" She explained the situation, and Saint Peter said he'd get right on it.
The next day the nun didn't hear from Saint Peter so she called him again. "Please set this error straight before tomorrow," she
begged. "There's an orgy planned for tonight, and everyone *must* attend!"
"Of course, Sister," he said. "I'll get you out of there right away."
Apparently, her plight slipped his mind, and the following morning Saint Peter received another phone call from hell. He
picked up the receiver with tribulations of his heart and started to listen.
He heard the following, "Hey, Pete, this is Maggie. Never mind!"
[_Liz_] - 08:28pm Jul 9, 1998 EST (#345 of 1135)
g*
[Libby] - 09:50am Jul 10, 1998 EST (#346 of 1135)
Dave-
Is there any chance someone could tweak the Board enough to include the name of the thread parent with the heading? I spent
more time than I have looking at several new topics today all started by the same person, none of which I would have bothered
with if I had known.
Is there someone else I should write? Thanks.
The Other One
Ray--Annoy a gungrabber--recite facts. [wardaddy] - 10:06am Jul 10, 1998 EST (#347 of 1135)
Libby
Something that I have wanted for a long time, too.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 10:49am Jul 10, 1998 EST (#348 of
1135)
Other Libby.
Long time no see. Welcome back.
I can tell who the author of some of them is by looking at them, but I understand what you are saying. *G*
Cat [Catrin] - 12:09pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#349 of 1135)
I haven't looked in for awhile...but I decided to make a point of doing so today, as it is the first day of the rest of my life. All my
company left yesterday, and it was a little rocky for me. I had rented a boat, and about 40 of us went out to Garrafon (sp?),
which is a natural underwater national park, just off of Isla Mujeres. This is where the ocean is about 15 different shades of
turquoise, blue and green - it's breathtaking. Several people spoke, and my friend whom I call my son (Mike Zarate - he sings
with the group "DCO", had a #1 hit here last year and has a new CD coming out next week) sang "My Way" in English and then
in Spanish. Then I threw my husband's ashes into the water. At that moment, on a clear, sunny day, it suddenly thundered and
poured rain...everybody was drenched, not to mention a bit awed at the coincidence (?).
It wasn't as difficult as I had imagined it would be...the only hard part was when Mike was singing...that sweet, clear,
21-year-old angelic voice; I looked at him, he was singing with tears pouring down his face...I thought about him, what he was
feeling, his sacrifice - he cancelled a concert in South America to be here - and I thought about the selflessness and purity of
love.
When we left, I looked back...the waves had dispersed the flowers, and there was a huge rainbow in the sky...it looked as if the
whole ocean surface was covered with white flowers.
It was an emotional day...not only for me...
"...I got home late. But it was still my birthday. I walked in, dropped my notes and my computer and went to the dining room.
There, a cake and presents waited and my kids and my wife yelled "Surprise." They gave me hugs and sang Happy Birthday and
we had cake and milk and I've never been so happy to see four people in my life.
They wondered perhaps why I hugged them back a little harder than usual. Maybe not." (Dave)
Yes. I hugged Mike harder than usual, too.
Probably for the same reasons.
A belated happy birthday, Dave!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:15pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#350 of 1135)
Cat
You're gonna make it, girl!
Vaya con dios!
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 12:37pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#351 of 1135)
Wow Cat!
Your post # 359 painted a beautiful picture of what you experienced on the day of your beloved husband's funeral. I liked the
part where it started storming when you spread his ashes in the sea. I hope you the best in your terrible loss.
SGTTAG
Ray--Annoy a gungrabber--recite facts. [wardaddy] - 12:49pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#352 of 1135)
Cat
God be with you.
Lisa [Lisaa] - 03:34pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#353 of 1135)
Cat
What a beautiful scene you'll hold in your memories always.
My thoughts are with you.
Lis
[DaveGin] - 05:27pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#354 of 1135)
And a belated welcome on taking that step back to the rest of your life, Cat.
I know how hard it can be.
We're glad to have you back.
DaveGin
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 06:01pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#355 of 1135)
Dave, what must I do to appease the Pathfinder gods?
For the past two days it seems that after an hour or less, my screen goes white and while I can back up to an old screen, I can
not go forward without going off line! This is getting annoying!
[jcastro] - 07:27pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#356 of 1135)
Cat, what a beautiful description of a heart-rending moment.
Peace. We're glad you're back. Janice
[spagz] - 07:42pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#357 of 1135)
cooter how are you ths evening? Has the thorazine kicked in yet? Just goofing with you,as you seem to have a good sense of
humor. Bet you are a fan of Molly Ivans,too. Just finished her last piece of work. Great read.spagz
[DaveGin] - 07:52pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#358 of 1135)
Don't believe you can hang this one on Pathfinder, Mel
It sounds more like a problem between your ISP, your browser and/or your computer.
I'll pass it on the tech gods anyhow.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 07:54pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#359 of 1135)
Excellent idea Libby. I did the same thing. Dave?
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 07:59pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#360 of 1135)
SherrieGirl - thought I'd tahk to ya bout them there posts back yonder. Kinda treddin on my neck of the woods arynt ya? and
PaddyWhack - ROFLMAO!!!
Dave if an author cannot be included, how about a rule that limits each poster to say, 3 threads? Babo is really goin wild here.
[DaveGin] - 08:05pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#361 of 1135)
Folks, I doubt seriously we'll be putting the names of the thread creators on the main screen.
They already show up when you enter the thread. If you don't want to enter, you don't have to.
Though I find some of the best conversations and (at times) best exchange of views occur in the threads you think it least
likely to happen.
And do you REALLY want to limit the number of posts ANYONE can create. You would be able to hear crickets chirp in the joint
if we did something like that.
Dave McLemore/TIME ONline
[spagz] - 08:14pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#362 of 1135)
Dave ---PLEEEZE do NOT limit Babette's posts!! I will go thro serious chuckles-withdrawal.spagz
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 09:32pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#363 of
1135)
Cat, glad to see you back. That was wonderful, and it IS the first day of the rest of your life.
Y'all pardon me while I look for a kleenex.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 09:41pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#364 of
1135)
Thanks, spagz! I do have a good sense of humor...I think...lol! I don't mind laughing at myself, either, so have at it!
dunite [babblingbrook] - 09:47pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#365 of 1135)
Dave
I have had the same white screen problem as Mel & LindaLu.....and I think we each have different ISP's...
The Obstreperous Dr. Spack [hoeker] - 09:51pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#366 of 1135)
dunite...
Does your browser stop at about 900 bytes read and just sit there almost interminably?
[cabot] - 09:55pm Jul 10, 1998 EST (#367 of 1135)
CATRIN-
Thanks for sharing your memory and welcome back.
cabot
[Rich Pasma] - 02:08am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#368 of 1135)
Cat,
Thanks for sharing your recent experiences here. They were appreciated, and in my opinion, were expressed quite well.
As far as unusual experiences with life, I have had a few. One of them follows. As far as expression goes I consider myself to be
somewhat of a barbarian, but here goes.
During the summer following my graduation from high school, I did some backpacking with three of my high school friends
in the Sierra Mountains located in California. The trip we took was about 65 miles in length and took 9 days. Since this trip was
taken late in the season, and because portions of it were cross-country (Meaning off mapped trails) we saw less than a dozen
other people during our trip.
A couple of things that made an impression on this trip were: while making our way up a steep ridge, a deer came over the top
of the ridge and went down the slope we were climbing. The unusual thing about this was there was not any up and down
motion with this animals back or rear hip associated with its movement down the slope, even though its surface was covered
mostly by broken rock. This gave the appearance that this animal was floating down the slope. I have never seen anything
like this on television, and seeing it live is kind to hard to explain other than to say it was beautiful.
The other impression was made by the landscape we encountered in an area called "Nine Lakes Basin". The lake having the
lowest elevation where we camped for a few days was above the timberline. For the fisherman here, we caught 48 trout. We had
trout for breakfast, trout for lunch, and trout for dinner. Needless to say we ate everything we caught. While this may not
sound like such a great thing, anybody that has had dehydrated scrambled eggs and bacon bits will tell you it is a great
alternative. Of course along with most things, the quality of backpacking food has greatly improved, since the time I took this
trip.
On one of the days while we camped at the lower lake, we took a three or four-mile hike or tour up to the highest lake. The
landscape, encountered during this hike, was devoid of vegetation. It felt as if we were on another planet. This was an
observation made by one of my friends. At the highest lake I saw something I will never forget, several blades of grass
growing out the top of one boulder next to this lake. When you look at mankind, it may not appear that life is tenacious. The
example provided by nature described above showed me that it was.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Lisa [Lisaa] - 08:56am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#369 of 1135)
Dave --
I'm experiencing what Dunite and Hoeker are describing -- when I try to log on. For the past 2-3 days, I'll get a white screen --
and sit for maybe five minutes at 953 (or maybe it WAS 293) with nothing happening.... And I'll try repeatedly with the same
result. I'll try back later and get in just fine.... And a little while later, get the same blank screen, stuck at the same number of
bytes.... I sincerely doubt Dunite, Hoeker, and I share an ISP.
Lis
David Luckie, Brewer · Patriot [LuckieBoy] - 08:57am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#370 of 1135)
Hoeker,
Mine stops at 293 bytes. I sent email to help@pathfinder.com last night.
Ray--If Nicole or Ron had had a gun, would O. J. be alive today? [wardaddy] - 09:01am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#371 of
1135)
Mine stops at "293 bytes read." I'm sure that I don't share an ISP with anyone on these boards.
Have complained to Pathfinder's tech help, too.
[masontwo] - 10:30am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#372 of 1135)
"Mine stops at "293 bytes read."
Same here....293....
Why?
[DaveGin] - 10:35am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#373 of 1135)
Oh. THAT white screen
Yeah, I got the "293 bytes read" screenn too briefly.
That generally means a server somewhere blew out or whatever. (I don't know the technical specifics.)
Usually it's a brief outage. Be patient and try again.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:58am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#374 of 1135)
Oh. THAT white screen
I'm happy to know that I have not been singled out for my political views! In fact, it kind of looks like there are more problems
being experienced by those on the left! ;^)
Who owns Pathfinder? Is RMS in the process of taking over?
dunite [babblingbrook] - 11:33am Jul 11, 1998 EST (#375 of 1135)
293 bytes or a full pasta dinner....I wouldn't know the difference...So far all I've (laughingly) mastered with my computer is
'word-processing' and "Internet".......(;-D......oh, and email!
Cat [Catrin] - 12:13pm Jul 11, 1998 EST (#376 of 1135)
Thanks, everyone, for the kind words.
"The unusual thing about this was there was not any up and down motion with this animals back or rear hip associated with its
movement down the slope, even though its surface was covered mostly by broken rock. This gave the appearance that this
animal was floating down the slope." (Rich)
Yes, I have seen that, and it is a fascinating thing to watch. Their thigh muscles are so powerful and tight - like springs - so
that with each step, they actually spring up into the air, which gives the floating impression.
My rock star son invited me, my best friend and her two kids to Guatamala for a concert they're doing there in a week or so (it's
a benefit for poor children, but before you get doe-eyed about it, you should know that it's also to promote their new CD, which
is being released next week *G*). I wasn't planning to go, but I just got an email from Sherrie which convinced me to change
my mind (thanks, Sher...but if I see Mother Theresa in the audience, I'm coming STRAIGHT home! *G*).
Mel: Who owns Pathfinder?! GOD owns Pathfinder!!! (Well, I mean, TIME/Warner/HBO/whoever-else...).*G*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 05:24pm Jul 11, 1998 EST (#377 of 1135)
TOP TEN REJECTION LINES GIVEN BY WOMEN (and what they actually mean):
10. "I think of you as a brother." (You remind me of that inbred banjo geek in "Deliverance.")
9. "There's a slight difference in our ages." (I don't want to do my DAD.)
8. "I'm not attracted to you in 'that' way." (You ugly dork.)
7. "My life is too complicated right now." (I don't want you spending the night or else you may hear phone calls from all the
other guys I'm seeing.)
6. "I've got a boyfriend." (I prefer my male cat and 1/2 gallon Ben & Jerry's ice cream.)
5. "I don't date men where I work." (I wouldn't date you if you're in the same *solar system*, much less the same building.)
4. "It's not you, it's me." (It's you.)
3. "I'm concentrating on my career." (Even something as boring and unfulfilling as my job is better than dating you.)
2. "I'm celibate." (I've sworn off the likes of you or I'd rather be gang raped by midgets or I'd rather drink turpentine and piss
on a brush fire or when bats fly out of my butt.)
1. "Let's be friends." (I want you to stay around so I can tell you in excruciating detail about all the other men I meet and have
sex with.)
*******************
TOP TEN REJECTION LINES GIVEN BY MEN (and what they actually mean):
10. "I think of you as a sister." (You're ugly.)
9. "There's a slight difference in our ages." (You're ugly.)
8. "I'm not attracted to you in 'that' way." (You're ugly.)
7. "My life is too complicated right now." (You're ugly.)
6. "I've got a girlfriend." (You're ugly.)
5. "I don't date women where I work." (You're ugly.)
4. "It's not you, it's me." (You're ugly.)
3. "I'm concentrating on my career." (You're ugly.)
2. "I'm celibate." (You're ugly.)
1. "Let's be friends." (You're SINFULLY ugly.)
The "T" on my T-Strap stands for "Tippy Toes" [TireBiter] - 09:45pm Jul 11, 1998 EST (#378 of 1135)
Some time back, Queen Elizabeth and Princess Diana decided to take the Bentley for a drive through the country. Coming out of
a curve on a winding lane, they encountered a man standing in the middle of the road, frantically waving his hands.
The Queen stopped the car and rolled down her window to see if she could be of help. Instantly, the man rushed to the car,
pointed a gun at the two ladies and announced "This 'ere's a 'oldup!"
Startled, the women protested, telling the robber that they had nothing of value. But the robber had recognized the car's
occupants.
"You! Lady Di! Let's 'ave that fine bracelet wot I'm always seein you wear! The one wif all the diamonds!"
Diana responded, "I'm so terribly sorry, young man, but it seems I've left the bracelet in the palace safe".
Undaunted, the robber eyed the Queen up and down. "Awright then mum, let's 'ave your diamond tiara!"
"I feel so awkward," murmured Elizabeth. "I've left the tiara on the nightstand. I'm so sorry."
"Aw 'ell, then," shouted the robber. "Get out. I'll take the Bentley."
At which point, the robber drove off, leaving the Queen and Princess to walk back to the palace.
After several minutes, Diana began to giggle. "What on earth is so funny?" asked the Queen. Diana looked down sheepishly. "I
didn't actually leave the bracelet in the safe," she admitted. "When I saw that we were being robbed, I tucked it into... well... you
know... down there."
The Queen then began to laugh uproariously. "Do you find that so funny, mum?" the Princess inquired. "No, no, dear Diana,"
said the Queen, in a comforting fashion. "I'm actually laughing with you. You see, I didn't leave the tiara on the nightstand,
either. Rather, I did with it... well... just like you!"
They both had a good laugh and continued down the lane. After several more minutes, Diana began, once again, to chuckle.
"What now, dear?" the Queen inquired.
"Oh, I was just thinking," giggled Diana, "It's a shame Margaret didn't come along. We might have saved the Bentley!"
conrad [darnoc] - 09:52pm Jul 11, 1998 EST (#379 of 1135)
Sherrie--ROTFLMAO
[cabot] - 09:56pm Jul 11, 1998 EST (#380 of 1135)
Sherrie-
Indeed!
[redeye] - 05:20pm Jul 12, 1998 EST (#381 of 1135)
Dave
Right about now...
You are, the funk soul brotha...
[DaveGin] - 10:02pm Jul 12, 1998 EST (#382 of 1135)
Word.
Cat [Catrin] - 12:25pm Jul 13, 1998 EST (#383 of 1135)
Well, I woke up this morning and decided to start catching up on politics...I have no idea what's gone on for the past month or
so. So I turned on the TV to watch C-SPAN.
Charles McDowell (Washington columnist for the Richmond Times Dispatch) was on. He said that 80% of the donations given to
politicians comes from one-quarter of one percent of the voting public.
Geez...makes you wonder if all the hullabaloo and debate is just a waste of time, no? I mean, that makes it pretty obvious that the
rest of us are just spinning wheels, while the politicians spin the issues...
Meanwhile, on another subject, the part of the ocean that's in my backyard is full of...yuck, take a deep breath...EELS!!!! They're
just roiling in the water, hundreds of them...
I think I'll just stick to the pool, in future...
Cat [Catrin] - 02:17pm Jul 13, 1998 EST (#384 of 1135)
I went to the "Homosexual Plot..." thread and was reminded of something funny that happened. I decided to re-post it here.
There is a really good-looking gay guy who lives upstairs, and just down the hall is a young couple. The girl is a 20-year-old
airhead (fits all the dumb blonde jokes) who is very sexy and accustomed to a lot of attention. She came to talk to me, saying she
had made a mistake and was afraid her boyfriend would find out, and asked me what to do.
It seems that the night before, her boyfriend had gone to bed and she sneaked out to go to a local party, where she got drunk
and stoned. At 3AM, she decided to phone her sister, in the states. The phone booth on the corner was out of order, so she took
her boyfriend's car and drove to town.
On the way back, she ran into a cement thingie and smashed a tire. Not wanting to stop on a dark road at night, she decided to
simply ignore it, and kept driving. When she got here, the entire wheel was destroyed...but she decided to park against a wall,
so her boyfriend wouldn't see it right away (she planned to act surprised - "Oh my! Somebody must have done that in the
night!").
As she was walking in, she ran into the guy from upstairs, who was accompanied by another guy. They invited her upstairs to
smoke a joint because she was upset. They walked past the security guard and went upstairs.
A little later, the guard came and knocked on the door. She jumped into the closet. The guard told the guys that her boyfriend
was looking for her. When the guard left, she climbed out the window, not wanting her boyfriend to see her. She walked past
the guard again, who did a double-take.
So she was sitting here giggling and telling me she could never tell her boyfriend, as he might get the wrong idea, and she was
going on at great length about how the visit was purely innocent, she had only gone there to smoke. After a few minutes of her
protestations, I said that nobody would get the wrong idea, since everybody knows the guy is gay.
"WHAT???!!!", she screamed, "So you mean it was all for NOTHING???!!!".
I roared laughing.
[Rich Pasma] - 03:23am Jul 14, 1998 EST (#385 of 1135)
Cat,
You have raised an interesting question about the role of average citizens and the effect they may have on the political
process. Are we spinning our wheels here? As far as the direct effect participation here has on government, it is probably not
much. But as this board is about providing a forum for political debate, I feel that it is very successful.
As far as the indirect effects this board has on the government, I do not think they can be measured. The fact that this board
provides a forum that gives a sense of participation in the political debate is likely to lead to people being active in other areas.
Things such as: voting; participating in a political party or special interest group; writing a letter to a newspaper or news
organization; or any number of possible things, are there for the taking.
The process of composing posts causes people to think, and by thinking about things one becomes more knowledgeable. Lastly
being exposed to others views of others, as well as feedback from people having an opposing opinion is an invaluable tool in
the learning process as well. As far as learning goes people for the most part want to do it as much as they can. If you think
about it, it is part of the survival mechanism, that is part of human nature.
Glad to here you watch C-SPAN's Washington Journal Program. I usually watch about an hour to an hour and a half of it each
day, and consider it to be quite valuable.
Getting back to the issue of the common persons effect on government, one could also say that very few people are directly
associated with lobbyists. They also have a very large influence on government. How much money comes from the average
citizen to these groups of people? I suspect very little.
The thing is, as an average citizen; it is possible to have an effect on the government. Just for fun I will create a thread in
which people can share the experiences that they have had in this regard. This thread will be titled, "What effect did some
action you took affect government?" Given the group participating here, it will be interesting to see the response. With the
prior history I have had with creating threads, the number of responses would be few and short-lived. However, the responses
to the prior threads created have been quite interesting. Not that I have a biased opinion.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Cat [Catrin] - 07:55am Jul 14, 1998 EST (#386 of 1135)
Rich:
I wasn't making reference to this BB, or even the practice of discussing politics in general. Many people ardently discuss
sports, yet they have zero input as to game strategy.
You say, "Things such as: voting; participating in a political party or special interest group; writing a letter to a newspaper or
news organization; or any number of possible things, are there for the taking."
Sure. The thing is, there has to be a HUGE amount of this going on, a rip tide of public opinion, before it has an impact.
A perfect example is campaign finance reform. There can be no doubt that the average person's inability to successfully
oppose the money people on issues they care about is a direct result of the way campaigns are currently financed...and you
can't blame the politicians - it's the system. Yet with half-truths and hyperbole, the fat cats manage to convince a significant
number of people that campaign finance reform is a negative thing.
As for C-SPAN, I've been watching it since its inception.
And yes, there have been a few times in the past when I have managed to have an effect on government; whenever I
presented my issue in such a way as to suggest to the politician involved that if he didn't see it my way, he would look very bad
in the media...
But you can't look a gift horse in the mouth - whatever the motivation, yes, it got done.
I guess I'm a bit cynical. *G*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 09:26am Jul 14, 1998 EST (#387 of 1135)
MY idea of hell...stuck on an elevator with Mr. Pasma and Mr. Russell.
Then, when they finally get the elevator rumbling again, Babsie gets on at the next stop.
;-&Mac222;
[spagz] - 12:09am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#388 of 1135)
Dave Just logging in spagz.Btw, WAS i PUT IN timeout? just trying to learn the rules!SPAGZ
[Rich Pasma] - 02:29am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#389 of 1135)
Cat,
Please accept my apology for misunderstanding the post I was responding to and thank you for the clarification about your
views on the issue. They were stated well.
You have watched C-Span for a much greater length of time than I have. For me it has been only about four to five years. The
only programs for the most part that I watch are Washington Journal and Booknotes. Maybe we could agree that C-Span does an
excellent job is seeing that all sides of an issue are presented fairly. That is why I get value from it. I have no preconceived
notions about why you have found it of interest or value.
As far as this thing with the ells, just where do you live? Swimming in the ocean with anything living other than human
beings, does not go over well with me. Of course what you described sounds like an oceanic snake pit. I had the unfortunate
experience of having a seal surface next to me in the ocean off of the Beach of San Clemente, CA. What I learned from that
experience was I could run on water. If the seal had been after me this would not have made a difference.
Sherrie,
First off being in an elevator with me would not be hell. Heck I took a shower just last month.
Your reaction to my last post seems to reflect your feelings about some of my recent posts here. Based upon the experience with
those posts I will say that my fighting days are over. I am not implying that I feel that you are trying to pick a fight with me. I
made a bed, now I am going to have to sleep in it for a while.
To All,
The title of the recent thread I created contained a grammatical error. The title of the thread created was, "What did some action
you took affect government?" Being grammatically correct, the title should have read, "How did some action you took affect
government?" As far as grammar goes this is splitting some fine hairs, but I was wrong. This error is going to be pointed out on
the thread I created as well.
As expected that thread has not generated much of a response, about six in two days. Some of the people that participated on it
seemed to have fun, so it was not a totally wasted effort.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:06am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#390 of 1135)
Rich --
I was having a bad day. You are not comparable with the other two I mentioned.
LOLOL which is to say that even when you DO go on and on and on there is a point there someplace. And apart from your thread,
which you mentioned, you usually use flawless grammer and phrasing.
I apologize. Actually, I kinda like you.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:09am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#391 of 1135)
PS and I also want to apologize to Dave. No matter how much some people annoy me, this was NOT the thread to vent on.
Cat [Catrin] - 11:08am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#392 of 1135)
"...you usually use flawless grammer and phrasing." (Sher)
Not to mention spelling...
ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cat [Catrin] - 11:13am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#393 of 1135)
"As far as this thing with the ells, just where do you live? Swimming in the ocean with anything living other than human
beings, does not go over well with me. Of course what you described sounds like an oceanic snake pit." (Rich)
WOW! Is this telepathy or something???!!!
Rich, I live in Cancun...and the name "Cancun" is Mayan and means...(are ya ready for this?)...
SNAKE PIT!
Cat [Catrin] - 11:41am Jul 16, 1998 EST (#394 of 1135)
"I had the unfortunate experience of having a seal surface next to me in the ocean off of the Beach of San Clemente, CA. What I
learned from that experience was I could run on water. If the seal had been after me this would not have made a difference."
(Rich)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! This invokes a vivid mental picture, and reminds me of an experience I had when we first moved here.
There is no describing this place at night. What's terrific is that there's zero violent crime - only burglaries and car theft - so
that you can be outside at any hour, alone, and not have to think about it. I was so entranced with the newness of this
experience when we got here, that I frequently sat outside, anytime I woke up in the night.
Our first place here was on the second floor. One night I came down to sit outside (there are park benches facing the ocean)...it
was deathly silent - at 3AM, nobody else was around.
I sat, gazing at the ocean and lost in thought, when my peripheral (sp?) vision picked up what looked like two tiny red lights,
off to the left of me. I turned my head to look and my stomach clenched into a knot when I saw a rat, the size of a small dog,
approaching...glowing red eyes, naked, disgustingly pink tail...it was so fat that it waddled. And it was heading straight for me.
At times like these, we learn a great deal about ourselves...what I learned that night was that regardless of all the New Year's
resolutions I've failed to keep over the years, I have IRONCLAD will power. While wanting - YEARNING - to fly straight up in
the air, I managed to hold perfectly still...the only thing I couldn't control was my skin, which was crawling so violently that I
was sure it must be visible.
The horrendous apparition kept coming...I'm sure that it was only a few seconds, but at the time it took years...and the closer it
got, the more my stomach clenched...until the damned thing walked RIGHT OVER MY FEET!!!!! Oh my God, I never wanted to
scream so badly in my life!
But it kept going...waddled right on past and disappeared into the night.
As soon as it was out of sight, I DID fly straight up in the air...and ran upstairs at the speed of light...
And my feet never touched the stairs.
Kinda like running on water. *G*
I later learned that it was not a rat; it was a "zarigueya" (pronounced SAHR-EE-WAY-AH). Huge opossums. Ugg.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:05pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#395 of 1135)
Cat
You would have less reason to fear a rat than an opossums. They can inflict a great deal of damage when they have a mind to do
so!
The view of an opossum's teeth bared in panic is enough to put the most leaden feet to flight!
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 01:00pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#396 of 1135)
Cat - Yick! My flesh crawls just reading about it.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 01:01pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#397 of 1135)
Cat Cancun=snake pit. At the risk of being very blonde, are there a lot of snakes there? I have enough trouble with the eel
thing....errrrrrrgh.....makes my raccoons seem not so bad.
How are the kittens, BTW?
Cat [Catrin] - 04:28pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#398 of 1135)
Mel: Aw, geez, don't tell me that! How do ya know???
Dunite: Now the snakes are only in the jungle, not in the developed areas. When they built this place up, they killed thousands.
Every once in awhile my cat, Jessie, brings one in, but they're the small, garden variety, no more than a foot long.
My husband was raised in the city and had no use for snakes. One day, Jessie brought one in and deposited it on the kitchen
floor. I let out a yell, and my husband came running - and made such an abrupt halt, when he saw what it was, that he nearly
landed on his butt, beside it.
"Is that a SNAKE???!!!"
"Yup. Get the broom and get it out of here, please."
"Who, ME???!!!"
"Who else?"
"Oh, NO! Go across the hall and get Julio, he was raised around these damned things!"
"Okay, but keep your eye on it, stay right here; I don't want it getting lost in the house."
When I returned with Julio, my husband was nowhere to be found. After Julio had dispatched the snake, my husband came
walking out of the bedroom.
"Where were you? I thought you were watching the snake?"
"Oh...well...ya see, I had to go to the bathroom REALLY bad...". *G* *G* *G*
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:04pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#399 of 1135)
Well, Cat
South Carolina is crawling with possums, but come to think of it, they are much more vicious than their Mexican cousins who
prefer to say "Mañana!" when challenged!
But, in case you run into a visiting critter...give them all a wide berth! As if you'd want to take one home with you to be a pet! LOL!
Cat [Catrin] - 09:51pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#400 of 1135)
"South Carolina is crawling with possums, but come to think of it, they are much more vicious than their Mexican cousins who
prefer to say "Mañana!" when challenged!" (Mel)
Nah...they say, "Hasta luego, Babeeee!".
You freaked me out about the viciousness, so I went to http://www.teleport.com/~opossums/#opossum facts
It says this:
"Hiss or growl and show their 50 sharp teeth when frightened; but, in reality, they are gentle and placid- they prefer to avoid
all confrontations and wish to be left alone."
At any rate, they'll have no trouble from ME about being left alone!
;-D
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:53pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#401 of 1135)
Okay, Cat
I'm not going to tell you about my friend who lost parts of three fingers to gentle, placcid possum! LOL!
Cat [Catrin] - 09:58pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#402 of 1135)
Did she get in its way?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:01pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#403 of 1135)
It was a he and he was taking it out of a live trap.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 10:18pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#404 of 1135)
And does he still deal with live traps?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:20pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#405 of 1135)
No traps of any kind! LOL!
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 10:20pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#406 of 1135)
Aaron is a bit testy with me because I won't let him attend a woodworking class.
The reason I won't let him attend the class is because the teacher only has two fingers on one hand. Badges of education, he
calls them.
I told Aaron I wouldn't let him take a cooking class from someone with third degree burns scars over 40% of his or her body,
either.
Que sera, sera.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 11:40pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#407 of 1135)
This is special! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
THE FATHER'S EYES
Bob Richards, the former pole-vault champion, shares a moving story about a skinny young boy who loved football with all his
heart. Practice after practice, he eagerly gave everything he had. But being half the size of the other boys, he got absolutely
nowhere. At all the games, this hopeful athlete sat on the bench and hardly ever played.
This teenager lived alone with his father, and the two of them had a very special relationship. Even though the son was always
on the bench, his father was always in the stands cheering. He never missed a game. This young man was still the smallest of
the class when he entered high school. His father continued to encourage him but also made it very clear that he did not have
to play football if he didn't want to. But the young man loved football and decided to hang in there He was determined to try his
best at every practice, and perhaps he'd get to play when he became a senior.
All through high school he never missed a practice nor a game but remained a bench-warmer all four years. His faithful
father was always in the stands, always with words of encouragement for him. When the young man went to college, he decided
to try out for the football team as a "walk-on." Everyone was sure he could never make the cut, but he did. The coach admitted
that he kept him on the roster because he always puts his heart and soul to every practice, and at the same time, provided the
other members with the spirit and hustle they badly needed.
The news that he had survived the cut thrilled him so much that he rushed to the nearest phone and called his father. His
father shared his excitement and was sent season tickets for all the college games. This persistent young athlete never missed
practice during his four years at college, but he never got to play in a game. It was the end of his senior football season, and as
he trotted onto the practice field shortly before the big playoff game, the coach met him with a telegram. The young man read
the telegram and he became deathly silent. Swallowing hard, he mumbled to the coach, "My father died this morning. Is it all
right if I miss practice today?" The coach put his arm gently around his shoulder and said, "Take the rest of the week off, son.
And don't even plan to come back to the game on Saturday."
Saturday arrived, and the game was not going well. In the third quarter, when the team was ten points behind, a silent young
man quietly slipped into the empty locker room and put on his football gear. As he ran onto the sidelines, the coach and his
players were astounded to see their faithful teammate back so soon. "Coach, please let me play. I've just got to play today," said
the young man. The coach pretended not to hear him. There was no way he wanted his worst player in this close playoff game.
But the young man persisted, and finally feeling sorry for the kid, the coach gave in. "All right," he said. "You can go in."
Before long, the coach, the players and everyone in the stands could not believe their eyes. This little unknown, who had
never played before was doing everything right. The opposing team could not stop him. He ran, he passed, blocked, and tackled
like a star. His team began to triumph. The score was soon tied. In the closing seconds of the game, this kid intercepted a pass
and ran all the way for the winning touchdown.
The fans broke loose. His teammates hoisted him onto their shoulders. Such cheering you never heard. Finally, after the stands
had emptied and the team had showered and left the locker room, the coach noticed that this young man was sitting quietly in
the corner all alone The coach came to him and said, "Kid, I can't believe it. You were fantastic! Tell me what got into you? How
did you do it?"
He looked at the coach, with tears in his eyes, and said, "Well, you knew my dad died, but did you know that my dad was blind?"
The young man swallowed hard and forced a smile, "Dad came to all my games, but today was the first time he could see me play,
and I wanted to show him I could do it!"
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:45pm Jul 16, 1998 EST (#408 of 1135)
Damn, Sherrie
I didn't want to cry tonight! But here I am bawling my eyes out!
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:18am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#409 of 1135)
Me too, Mel, and I refuse to cry alone ;-)
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 12:39am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#410 of
1135)
Wow!
[DaveGin] - 12:47am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#411 of 1135)
Just so everyone will know
Someone is posing as Babette, using the screen name Babbettte9 and posting some long and incoherent screed.
Babette- the real one - assures me it isn't her.
I plan to find that person and remove them as permanently as possible from these boards.
I don't care what anyone things about Babette or any other poster. I don't care if it was the work of a merry prankster. It will
not go on in these boards.
We can not tolerate such posing, since it destroys whatever semblance to community we've created here.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:57am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#412 of 1135)
Agreed, Dave.
Now, if you could just let us know when the person is unmasked...
[DaveGin] - 02:03am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#413 of 1135)
Agreed, Sherrie.
This is one time I think everyone should know.
Dave
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 02:14am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#414 of
1135)
Thanks, Dave. I agree with you and Sherrie......but then I always agree with Sherrie. *G*
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 02:16am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#415 of 1135)
Gee, Cooter!
I thought you always agreed with me!
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 02:23am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#416 of 1135)
nyah, nyah, nyah ;-&Mac222;
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 02:25am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#417 of 1135)
Excuse me! You may be the one he is trifling with, you know! Hah!
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 02:30am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#418 of
1135)
First rule of posting. Never post anything to or about a woman that another woman will see. *sigh*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 02:31am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#419 of 1135)
Au Contraire, Mel.
Cooter NEVER trifles.
::::Snuggling::::
Libby [mbette] - 03:19am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#420 of 1135)
Spreading yourself a little thin, aren't you Cooter?
I thought you always agreed with ME!
Humpf
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:21am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#421 of 1135)
::::gloating is SUCH fun::::
Hehehe ya gotta admit, I have good taste in men...
[_Liz_] - 08:42am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#422 of 1135)
Hold it, hold it, hold it!
shoving ladies knee deep out of the way*
Time to go home, old man.....sheesh! Leave you alone over here for one week and what do you do? Knee deep in hearts and
flowers...tsk tsk tsk.
Hi Dave! Long time no read. Notice me in the forum? I got in. I would like very much the home addresses of all members of the
'crack programming team' and an uzi. I think you have my PO box, so you can just send them there.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 10:06am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#423 of 1135)
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA You're gonna love THIS...
The following link is presented to you through the courtesy of Cat, who is sicker'n most and makes the rest of us love it,
LOLOLOLOLOL...
Better than Sheep
[Donnah] - 10:18am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#424 of 1135)
So this is where you ran off to, Cooter.... Sheesh!
Cat [Catrin] - 10:30am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#425 of 1135)
"Someone is posing as Babette, using the screen name Babbettte9 and posting some long and incoherent screed." (Dave)
Thanks for pointing that out, Dave...if you hadn't tipped me off to the extra "t", I wouldn't have known the difference...
;-D
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 10:49am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#426 of
1135)
Firecracker, Robbie is posting at "Brand X." ;-)
Donnah......I don't believe that I have had the pleasure, but I'm always ready for new experiences! *G*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:19pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#427 of 1135)
Izzat the same donnah who had the malt shoppe, or whatever?
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:26pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#428 of 1135)
At a Santa Fe gas station:
"We will sell gasoline to anyone in a glass container."
In a New York restaurant:
"Customers who consider our waitresses uncivil ought to see the manager."
On the wall of a Baltimore estate:
"Trespassers will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. --Sisters of Mercy"
On a long-established New Mexico dry cleaners:
"38 years on the same spot."
In a Los Angeles dance hall:
"Good clean dancing every night but Sunday."
In a Florida maternity ward:
"No children allowed."
In a New York drugstore:
"We dispense with accuracy."
In the offices of a loan company:
"Ask about our plans for owning your home."
In a New York medical building:
"Mental Health Prevention Center"
On a New York convalescent home:
"For the sick and tired of the Episcopal Church."
On a Maine shop:
"Our motto is to give our customers the lowest possible prices and workmanship."
At a number of military bases:
"Restricted to unauthorized personnel."
On a display of "I Love Only YOU" Valentine cards:
"Now available in multi-packs."
In the window of a Kentucky appliance store:
"Don't kill your wife. Let our washing machine do the dirty work."
In a funeral parlor:
"Ask about our layaway plan."
Outside a country shop:
"We buy junk and sell antiques."
In the window of an Oregon store:
"Why go elsewhere and be cheated when you can come here?"
In a Maine restaurant:
"Open 7 days a week and weekends."
On a radiator repair garage:
"Best place to take a leak."
In the vestry of a New England church:
"Will the last person to leave please see that the perpetual light is extinguished."
In a Pennsylvania cemetery:
"Persons are prohibited from picking flowers from any but their own graves."
On a roller coaster:
"Watch your head."
On a Tennessee highway:
"When this sign is under water, this road is impassable."
[Donnah] - 03:54pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#429 of 1135)
Cooter, Honey...It's me, Donna Dear from Salon....
Yup, Sherrie...thass me.....Or the mango Ice Cream Shoppe.....
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 04:07pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#430 of 1135)
Dave,
How come there are only 1998's posts in the Most Ethical Administration thread?
Y'all got any from last year?
Cat [Catrin] - 04:57pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#431 of 1135)
Dunite: You asked about the kittens...there's only one now - I think someone adopted one (the prettiest). I've been trying to get
the remaining one to sit still long enough to get a photo, but so far no luck. You'll be amazed at how much he has grown.
I put some photos of my own cats up...go see at http://members.aol.com/AlinaBono/index.html
(It will take a few minutes to load...but be patient, cuz the last one's the best. Heh).
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 05:34pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#432 of 1135)
Cat - Those kitties are the cutest, and they're even the same coloring as some of mine. Our latest litters added more of those
mottled brown kittens, more white kittens (one with one green eye and one blue eye), and the new color additions of several
black kittens and one lone orange kitten.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 05:39pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#433 of 1135)
Cat Couldn't get to your page. I did it before! Seems like I have trouble with aol sometimes.....will give it a go later.
[Snow Pea] - 06:42pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#434 of 1135)
What cuties, Catrin. The one in the sink is great. I have a cat that will only drink water in the sink or the bathtub if you turn it
on to just a dribble. I think she thinks she is still in the wild drinking from a waterfall.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 07:01pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#435 of 1135)
One of our cats, Coco Channel, prefers to drink from the toilet.
Cat [Catrin] - 08:02pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#436 of 1135)
"...and the new color additions of several black kittens and one lone orange kitten." (Nicad)
I read somewhere that black kittens and orange kittens come from the same color genes (?).
"One of our cats, Coco Channel, prefers to drink from the toilet."
I had one who did that, years ago. He used to go in the powder room - right off the living room - perch on the seat and drink.
One day he did it in front of a guest; I was mortified and stammered something about not understanding why he didn't use his
water bowl.
"Oh, well," my guest replied, "this has a certain...um...essence."
;-D
[DaveGin] - 08:13pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#437 of 1135)
My, my, my, said the spider to the fly. . .
Thoughts on Cooter being caught with the ladies of his cyberlife all in the same room: Bubba, if you can pull this off with all
your appendages, you travel around the country giving seminars.
Glad you made it, Liz. We work on the theory that if it ain't broke, we can take care of that.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 08:14pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#438 of 1135)
Luckie Boy....what you see is what you get.
I suppose 1998 has just been a very, very long year.
DaveGin
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 08:32pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#439 of 1135)
DaveGin -
What is the word
On the guy with the habit
Of posting his madness
And signing it Babettte?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Cat [Catrin] - 09:01pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#440 of 1135)
"I have a cat that will only drink water in the sink or the bathtub if you turn it on to just a dribble." (Snow)
Every morning when I get up, Jessie has a ritual; she has to come into the bathroom with me, sit on the sink and take sips from
the faucet while I'm brushing my teeth...one time she was furious with me - I spat the toothpaste on her head. She keeps
ducking for another sip, and when I'm in a hurry...*G*
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 09:32pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#441 of 1135)
Oh wow, what a sight... picture three buck deer 20 feet outside your window being stalked by a pack of fluffy kittens.
[Snow Pea] - 09:39pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#442 of 1135)
Curious creatures: cats. The same cat that only drinks from faucets was also seen recently chasing a fox down the street. And
she's a tiny little thing, at the most 6 pounds in weight. The deer scenario is not so unbelievable around here.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 09:43pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#443 of
1135)
This is interesting. I signed up for the board at Salon, but never was able to open it, so I haven't tried again in some time. I don't
recall ever posting there, but there is always the possibility that one night, under the influence of adult beverages, that I may
have..............lol!
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 09:46pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#444 of
1135)
I still can't open it. *sigh*
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 09:53pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#445 of 1135)
Dave,
Ah, that's too bad. Last year was a blast in that thread. It's still great looking back at the amount of noise generated on this BBS.
Thanks for the archives.
[Snow Pea] - 09:56pm Jul 17, 1998 EST (#446 of 1135)
Cooter -- Hiya! Thought you were headin' down the coast this weekend . . .
[Rich Pasma] - 02:24am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#447 of 1135)
Animals seem to come frequently come up in the discussion here. Most of these are related to the experiences people have with
pet cats. For the most part I find the comments presented by these posts to be interesting and often reveal something about the
personality of the poster in a positive light. Being that I am kind of the Darth Vader of the board in many people's minds,
please do not feel that I feel that there is anything negative about this. Quite the opposite is true.
Unfortunately I can not source the following statistics as they come from my memory (I am pretty sure they are accurate) but I
found them to be interesting. The most fatalities caused by any animal in the USA are by deer. The most reported injuries to
humans from dogs' attacks are associated with the St. Bernard breed.
I used to do a great deal of running I did not keep track, but I would say that I have run at least 15 to 20 thousand miles. There
were two things I learned from this experience that I did not know. The first is that cows can charge people. Although cows are
much faster than you may think, I was faster in the case I dealt with.
The second case involved a skunk. During one of my night runs I thought I was overtaking a slow moving cat. When the tail of
this animal shot straight up, shortly before I was going to pass it, I saw that it was white. Although I did not know did not know
the undersides of skunk's tails were white, in a split second I realized this and made a rather sudden stop and retreat. I
considered myself to lucky to see something such as this without having suffered the consequences.
As far as not understanding nature something that made an impression on me will be shared. While at Yellowstone National
Park I saw a couple stop their car, get out of it and approach a bear cub that was on the road. This alone is a fairly dangerous
thing to do. Adding to the stupidity of this act these people did not realize that mama bear was close by. Seeing the reaction of
an angry bear is something to see. The only thing that saved these people was, moma bear was more interested in first treeing
its cub before dealing with its perceived attackers. As far as speed goes, seeing a bear cub go up a tree at full blast was most
impressive.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 04:11am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#448 of 1135)
1. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they lit a fire in the craft it sank - proving once and for all that you
can't have your kayak and heat it, too.
2. Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to Hollywood and became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in
the cotton fields and never amounted to much. The second one, naturally, became known as the lesser of two weevils.
3. A three-legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West. He sidles up to the bar and announces: "I'm looking for the man who
shot my paw."
4. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a beer?" The bartender replies, "For you, no charge."
5. Two atoms are walking down the street and they run into each other. One says to the other, "Are you all right?" "No, I lost an
electron!" "Are you sure?" "Yeah, I'm positive!"
6. Did you hear about the Zen Buddhist who refused his dentist's Novocain during root canal work? He wanted to transcend
dental medication.
7. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament
victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why?," they asked, as they
moved off. "Because," he said, "I can't stand chess nuts boasting in an open foyer."
8. A doctor made it his regular habit to stop off at a bar for a hazelnut daiquiri on his way home. The bartender knew of his
habit, and would always have the drink waiting at precisely 5:03 p.m. One afternoon, as the end of the work day approached,
the bartender was dismayed to find that he was out of hazelnut extract. Thinking quickly, he threw together a daiquiri made
with hickory nuts and set it on the bar. The doctor came in at his regular time, took one sip of the drink and exclaimed, "This
isn't a hazelnut daiquiri!" "No, I'm sorry," replied the bartender, "it's a hickory daiquiri, doc."
9. A hungry lion was roaming through the jungle looking for something to eat. He came across two men. One was sitting under
a tree and reading a book; the other was typing away on his typewriter. The lion quickly pounced on the man reading the book
and devoured him. Even the king of the jungle knows that readers digest and writers cramp.
10. There was a man who entered a local paper's pun contest. He sent in ten different puns, in the hope that at least one of the
puns would win. Unfortunately, no pun in ten did.
11. A guy goes to a psychiatrist. "Doc, I keep having these alternating recurring dreams. First I'm a teepee; then I'm a wigwam;
then I'm a teepee; then I'm a wigwam. It's driving me crazy. What's wrong with me?" The doctor replies: "It's very simple.
You're two tents."
12. A woman has twins, and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named "Amal." The other
goes to a family in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his mom. Upon receiving the
picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Amal. Her husband responds, "But they are twins -if
you've seen Juan, you've seen Amal."
Babette9 [Babette9] - 04:21am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#449 of 1135)
Hey Cat - your post #425 was spoken like a true cat! That, btw, seems to be the Clinton Apologist's party line. You don't suppose it
was MEANT TO BE THE PARTY LINE, DO YOU? Nah! Just a coincidence! All the same, it is remark-able that you all come up with the
same calumnious litany! LOL.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 04:29am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#450 of 1135)
Hey Babsie, did you delete that extra name? Dave tracks it back to you and you are toast...
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 06:51am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#451 of 1135)
Hey Babsie, did you delete that extra name? Dave tracks it back to you and you are toast...
I think I know who the imposter is. I've seen certain similarities in language use between the imposter's posts and a frequent
lefty poster here.
Cat [Catrin] - 09:05am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#452 of 1135)
"There were two things I learned from this experience that I did not know. The first is that cows can charge people. Although
cows are much faster than you may think, I was faster in the case I dealt with. " (Rich)
ROTF!!!!!! You mean like running on water and running upstairs without touching the steps???*G* You invoke hilarious mental
images...I can just see you, with a cow in hot pursuit, ROTF!!!!!!!!!
"As far as speed goes, seeing a bear cub go up a tree at full blast was most impressive. "
What about the people???
Cat [Catrin] - 09:35am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#453 of 1135)
"Hey Cat - your post #425 was spoken like a true cat! That, btw, seems to be the Clinton Apologist's party line. You don't suppose
it was MEANT TO BE THE PARTY LINE, DO YOU? Nah! Just a coincidence! All the same, it is remark-able that you all come up with
the same calumnious litany! LOL." (Babette9)
Here is post #425:
"Hush Puppy - 02:16am Jul 17, 1998 EST (#425 of 461) Gee, Cooter! I thought you always agreed with me!"
I suppose you really meant to say post #435, which was:
"Thanks for pointing that out, Dave...if you hadn't tipped me off to the extra "t", I wouldn't have known the difference... " (Cat)
Babs, I don't know what planet you are living on, but you seem to be laboring under a number of misapprehensions.
First, cats - at least my cats - cannot speak. Therefore, it is a bit confusing when you say I speak like a true cat, as that would
mean that I don't speak at all.
Second, I am not a "Clinton apologist", nor do I understand the term. Why would anyone devote their entire consciousness to
apologizing for an elected official whom they've never met? Furthermore, from a logical standpoint, the term is an absurdity;
those who support an elected official obviously don't think there is something to apologize for, so why would they apologize in
the first place?
Third, I haven't the vaguest idea what's going on in politics, since I have not read a newspaper or magazine, nor watched TV
news for nearly two months. I have no idea what "the party line" is these days, whether it be the Libertarian, Republican,
Democrat or other party line.
Fourth, while I know you enjoy a certain celebrity on this BB, I doubt the Democratic Party considers you significant enough to
formulate a "party line" to deal with you.
Fifth, my post was anything but "calumnious litany"..."Calumnious" = False and malicious..."Litany" = Prayer said as a series of
responses to a leader. (Merriam-Webster). I merely said that I was glad Dave pointed out the extra "t".
I told you a long time ago that I scroll past your posts - they are always either calumnious or preposterous - so when I come
upon a long, tiresome diatribe with the name "Babettte", it is easy to assume it is more of the usual and skip it.
Surely you don't blame Clinton for your own posts, too??????
;-D
Cat [Catrin] - 10:18am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#454 of 1135)
A man walks into a bar and orders two drinks. As the bartender watches, he drinks one drink and pours the other one on his
hand. He orders two more drinks and does the same thing. The third time the bartender asks him what's going on. "Why are you
pouring that drink on your hand"? The man smiles at him , winks and says "I'm trying to get my date drunk".
;-D
Life is good! -- Starr is Bad! [jcoil] - 10:25am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#455 of 1135)
This one's not as good, but.
A drunk see's a sign on one of his local joint's; Celebrate our 25th year. All the beer you can drink for a buck. So he promptly
walks in and say's; Gimme $2.00 worth of the special.
Cat [Catrin] - 10:34am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#456 of 1135)
Dunno if it's good...I don't get it???
But here's another:
Farmer Joe decided his injuries from the accident were serious enough to take the trucking company (responsible for the
accident) to court. In court, the trucking company's fancy lawyer was questioning farmer Joe. "Didn't you say, at the scene of
the accident, 'I'm fine!'?," questioned the lawyer.
Farmer Joe responded, "Well I'll tell you what happened. I had just loaded my favorite mule Bessie into the......."
"I didn't ask for any details," the lawyer interrupted, "just answer the question. Did you not say, at the scene of the accident,
'I'm fine!'"
Farmer Joe said, "Well I had just got Bessie into the trailer and I was driving down the road..."
The lawyer interrupted again and said, "Judge, I am trying to establish the fact that, at the scene of the accident, this man told
the Highway Patrolman on the scene that he was just fine. Now several weeks after the accident he is trying to sue my client. I
believe he is a fraud. Please tell him to simply answer the question."
By this time the Judge was fairly interested in Farmer Joe's answer and said to the lawyer, "I'd like to hear what he has to say
about his favorite mule Bessie."
Joe thanked the Judge and proceeded, "Well as I was saying, I had just loaded Bessie, my favorite mule, into the trailer and was
driving her down the highway when this huge semi-truck and trailer ran the stop sign and smacked my truck right in the
side. I was thrown into one ditch and Bessie was thrown into the other. I was hurting real bad and didn't want to move.
However, I could hear ole Bessie moaning and groaning. I knew she was in terrible shape just by her groans. Shortly after the
accident a Highway Patrolman came on the scene. He could hear Bessie moaning and groaning so he went over to her. After he
looked at her he took out his gun and shot her between the eyes. Then the Patrolman came across the road with his gun in his
hand and looked at me. He said, "Your mule was in such bad shape I had to shoot her. How are you feeling?"
Cat [Catrin] - 10:45am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#457 of 1135)
BEST of the day:
A ventriloquist cowboy walked into town and saw a rancher sitting on his porch with his dog:
Cowboy: "Hey, cool dog. Mind if I speak to him?"
Rancher: "This dog don't talk!"
Cowboy: "Hey dog, how's it going?"
Dog: "Doin alright"
Rancher: (Extreme look of shock)
Cowboy: "Is this your owner? (pointing at rancher)"
Dog: "Yep."
Cowboy: "How's he treat you?"
Dog: "Real good. He walks me twice a day, feeds me great food, and takes me to the lake once a week to play."
Rancher: (Look of disbelief)
Cowboy: "Mind if I talk to your horse?"
Rancher: "Horses don't talk!"
Cowboy: "Hey horse, how's it goin?"
Horse: "Cool."
Rancher: (an even wilder look of shock)
Cowboy: "Is this your owner?" (pointing at rancher)
Horse: "Yep."
Cowboy: "How's he treat you?"
Horse: "Pretty good, thanks for asking. He rides me regularly, brushes me down often, and keeps me in the barn to protect me
from the elements."
Rancher: (total look of amazement)
Cowboy: "Mind if I talk to your SHEEP?"
Rancher: (stuttering, and hardly able to talk)...... "Th-Th-Them sheep ain't nothin but liars!!!"
Cat [Catrin] - 10:54am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#458 of 1135)
What is the word
On the guy with the habit
Of posting his madness
And signing it Babettte? (Nigel)
We will always find those
Who use others' names
But just like the rose
It smells quite the same...
;-D
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 11:21am Jul 18, 1998 EST (#459 of 1135)
DaveGin:
Could you find out why it is taking between three to five minutes to download from here this morning? I know that my ISP is
working correctly and that nothing seems to be wrong with the Internet backbone since other sites throughout the country
that I've visited this morning (and visit on a regular basis) are downloading normally.
Thanks.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:22pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#460 of 1135)
Hanson --
Ken Starr has obtained a subpoena to see where you go when you sign on. He has heard a rumor that you once said something
vaguely positive about the President of the United States.
Don't worry, six years from now it will still be messed up but you will be used to it.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 12:33pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#461 of 1135)
Sherrie:
Should I do something about this spider who's attaching her web to my nose, monitor, and keyboard?
;-^)
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:38pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#462 of 1135)
Make sure she doesn't have a teeny weeny liddle tape recorder anywhere close at hand...
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 12:44pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#463 of 1135)
Sherrie:
*squint*
*eyes rastering across the spider*
*boy, those are some impressive fangs! Hope she doesn't develop a taste for human cartilage!!*
[DaveGin] - 02:13pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#464 of 1135)
Glad to see the download time didn't keep you from posting messages, Hanson
<g>
I haven't experienced any particular slowdown in Pathfinder this morning. Nor has anyone else complained of similar
problems. So, apparently, we do live in an age of miracles.
It may not be you. It may not be Pathfinder, but this Rube Goldberg world of the Web includes a whole bunch of stops in
between.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[jollyollie] - 02:26pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#465 of 1135)
Couldn't post, most of last might actually Dave.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 06:16pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#466 of 1135)
Dave, This Is Serious!!!!!!
My sister is visiting and I bought a nice wine - one with a cork and the only cork screw I have is just your everyday ordinary
old cork screw. Well, we have been able to screw into the cork but we are unable to pull the cork out!
What can we do? Are there any other ways to remove a cork with regular household implements that won't result in pieces of
cork in the wine?
Please answer quickly!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 06:26pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#467 of 1135)
Uh, Dave
We are waiting!
Okay, I found a bottle of cheap champagne left over from New Year's and after a few minutes of fighting we were able to pop
the plastic cork (and put a new hole in the ceiling) so we won't be needing the wine for a while, but this is a problem. You see,
my sister really likes wine.....and I like to be an accomodating hostess.
[jollyollie] - 06:30pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#468 of 1135)
Remove the corkscrew, put bottle on the counter, pick up your car keys, drive to a store, buy a decent corkscrew. Say HI, to
your sister from me. LOL
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 06:35pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#469 of 1135)
DaveGin:
I've got a 120 MHz Pentium and I think it is showing its age! By human years, it must be 105 or so and it must think that it
occasionally is a 120 mHz Pentium, able to execute one instruction every eight seconds or so. Maybe this was the cause...
But, since JO experienced the same problems, and since he is next door in Alberta, perhaps the conspirators on the X-Files were
up to something (there was some kind of farm being operated in Alberta once!). I'll have to check in with Special Agent Mulder
about this. If I'm not heard from in several days...
[jollyollie] - 06:43pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#470 of 1135)
Hanson, it's a conspiracy all right, those elitist eastern types, don't want us remote, outta the loop types posting! I say we
shutdown the pipelines and let 'em freeze in the dark this winter! Whaddya say?
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 06:46pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#471 of 1135)
Let's do it, JO!
Got my wrenches and my blowtorch!
On second thought, probably should leave the blowtorch behind (but what would the other self-respecting Montanans think of
me if I couldn't carry it out with a little excitement and danger?)
[DaveGin] - 06:54pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#472 of 1135)
Mel, you could stay with the wine in screw-top bottles
Boone's Farm '98 is a delightful yet insoucient choice.
Or you could just push the cork on into the bottle. That way, no shreds of cork.
DaveGin
Libby [mbette] - 07:13pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#473 of 1135)
Listen to Jolly, Melanie....buy a decent corkscrew, for heaven's sake....or buy a bottle of wine with a screw off cap (I see Dave
beat me to that idea).
Hanson, you're not alone. I've been experiencing intermittent problems with Pathfinder's slow loading. Dave says it's not my
problem, but it IS my problem, when I can't load down this stupid board (or threads) and I have something VERY important to
say....and then it just DOESN'T get said. I'm sure a lot of your important stuff goes unsaid, as well, and we're all that much less
enlightened. Unfortunately, the board only works well, when I have nothing much to say....like right now. ;)
[jollyollie] - 07:14pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#474 of 1135)
Actually, it's been several times lately that this place is buggy.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz [HansonRC] - 07:17pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#475 of 1135)
DaveGin:
You just have to have a word with the techies! They are not supposed to be feeding the Gremlins before Midnight or else all
heck breaks loose!
g*
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 07:18pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#476 of 1135)
I just came in to check and what do I find, but smart alec responses. The champagne is almsot gone and we are not about to go
off in search of a cheap wine or a new screw dirver. My town is a notorious speed trap and the police chief (who is the only
cop) would love to collect a dui fine) I reallythought I could count on you guys!
I am hoping to avoid Hammer Time, so pleeeeeaase...help!
[jollyollie] - 07:25pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#477 of 1135)
LOL, sorry Melanie, but if the cork won't pull out no how, no way, Dave is right... push it in!
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 07:25pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#478 of 1135)
I'm having no speed probs on Pathfinder, but yesterday and today I've had all sorts of problems telnetting into one of my shell
accounts, but if I telnet into the other shell account and telnet from there into the first shell account I have no problems. I
think some part of the Internet backbone needs an enema.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 07:51pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#479 of 1135)
Okay, the cork is in thanks to a hammer and screw drive. I must asy I really expected more ingenious solutions ot this not too
extraordinary problem. This is not to say i don't appreciate your help, but reather i expected a differnt solution!
Anyway! We are toasting my father's 85th birthday with wine with the flavor of cork and he could care less!
Salud! Prosit! etc!
[Libby] - 07:58pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#480 of 1135)
Hate to ruin the good time -
I have been trying, in the nicest way possible, to avoid new Babette threads, now I also have to deal with Pissed-off(I don't care
how he/she spells it, it comes out the same)
It's hardly worth the time it takes to look. HELP!!!!!
[Donnah] - 08:00pm Jul 18, 1998 EST (#481 of 1135)
Hmm.....Must be more 'n one Cooter, Sweetie....
You know BooHab, Bill and Angela? Hmmmmm?
My goodness...this cyber world is small.....
;-)
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 11:00am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#482 of
1135)
Donnah, those names don't ring a bell, hon. If it helps any, I'm from Mississippi.
Dry [Richos] - 11:36am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#483 of 1135)
Dave, what happenned? Did those gremlins last week destroy the PF boards? I log on to the same links but I keep getting
Babettes Boards. Can you give me the new home for PF please..........
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 11:45am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#484 of 1135)
Indeed, Richos.
Freedom of speech is one thing.
Rape of the board to push an agenda is quite another.
snkls [snichols] - 11:51am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#485 of 1135)
Solution
just create some of your own thread topics with your john henry on them.
Dry [Richos] - 11:53am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#486 of 1135)
I think Babette's trying to run off the newcomers myself.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 11:55am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#487 of 1135)
Babette's idea of heaven would be a Pathfinder board composed of nothing but her and her babbling bestal birgins.
Dry [Richos] - 11:56am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#488 of 1135)
snkls although greatly appreciative of your attempts to keep away from CAPSLOCK, I would like to point out that cluttering up
the board with non topics isn't going to solve anything.
The "T" on my T-Strap stands for "Tippy Toes" [TireBiter] - 11:58am Jul 19, 1998 EST (#489 of 1135)
Here's the latest count, as of 7/18 noon, for those keeping track:
Total Threads, including Archives and fluff: 159
Authentic Babette Threads: 20
Babette Posting as a Pseudonym Threads: God Knows
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:00pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#490 of 1135)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL I read this and thought INSTANTLY of Bear Armstrong...
These are actual comments left on Forest Service registration sheets and comment cards by backpackers completing wilderness
camping trips:
"A small deer came into my camp and stole my bag of pickles. Is there a way I can get reimbursed? Please call."
"Escalators would help on steep uphill sections."
"Instead of a permit system or regulations, the Forest Service needs to reduce worldwide population growth to limit the number
of visitors to wilderness."
"Trails need to be wider so people can walk while holding hands."
"Ban walking sticks in wilderness. Hikers that use walking sticks are more likely to chase animals."
"All the mile markers are missing this year."
"Found a smouldering cigarette left by a horse."
"Trails need to be reconstructed. Please avoid building trails that go uphill."
"Too many bugs and leeches and spiders and spider webs. Please spray the wilderness to rid the area of these pests."
"Please pave the trails so they can be plowed of snow in the winter."
"Chairlifts need to be in some places so that we can get to wonderful views without having to hike to them."
"The coyotes made too much noise last night and kept me awake. Please eradicate these annoying animals."
"Reflectors need to be placed on trees every 50 feet so people can hike at night with flashlights."
"Need more signs to keep area pristine."
"A McDonald's would be nice at the trail head."
"The places where trails do not exist are not well marked."
"Too many rocks in the mountains."
snkls [snichols] - 12:01pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#491 of 1135)
Dry [Richos]
All due respect does this mean any topic others might think of would be non-topics?
Dry [Richos] - 12:06pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#492 of 1135)
I was suggesting that I havn't got any ideas for topics snkls. I could start a few of course but like Babettes they would serve no
useful purpose.
I was not totally happy with the selection of topics before all the Babettes suddenly discovered that blue box thing top rhcorner
but I was a lot happier than I am now.
snkls [snichols] - 12:19pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#493 of 1135)
Dry [Richos]
Sorry I think all this ballyhoo over Babette is just that, there are so many topics she has nothing to do with, just pick one and
post. You can ignore what you don't like.
I still enjoy some of Babettes stuff even when I don't always agree.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:22pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#494 of 1135)
The whole point IS, Snkls, it isn't Babette's stuff. It is stuff she obtained from a different source and feels psychologically
compelled to foist off on us.
For pages and pages.
Despite being told REPEATEDLY not to do it.
snkls [snichols] - 01:12pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#495 of 1135)
The point as I see it is on top of some peoples head.
Ok since when has anyone here that ever wrote a paper not used source material?
Did you bother to get permission?? Or are you somehow sanctioned?
Give me a break half of what anyone says has been said before.
Have you ever recorded a movie????
Sometimes what she uses is part of the Federal Register. Is that infringment?
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 01:17pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#496 of 1135)
Why is everybody so afraid of information and the dissemination therof? If Babetteophobes would just find
and post their own info, and provide their opinion on said info, then we could get this InfoWar on an even
keel!
snkls [snichols] - 01:30pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#497 of 1135)
You know I must in Babette's defense since she is not here, say, when she does appear, LOL, she is going to blow you all out of
the WATER. No doubt about it.
snkls [snichols] - 01:40pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#498 of 1135)
Talk about water I am going to take a shower and cool off, some would say I am all wet already and I can appreciate the wit
there however, I am looking forward to Babette's response as I know it will be eloquent and with style.
Been fun, and I will be serving up some fresh ice cold vodka tonics with lemon if anyone cares to indulge.
[jcastro] - 02:27pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#499 of 1135)
Poor Melanie. For future reference, on those occasions when you cannot pull the cork out, the easiest remedy is to push it
gently into the bottle (to minimize splashing). Then, to be sure there is no cork in the wine, filter it into a carafe using a coffee
filter. Takes a sec. Or, as my Better Half notes, you could also take a hacksaw and remove the neck of the bottle.... Then again,
he's prone to hasty solutions.... Next time you are buying a corkscrew I would highly recommend the two-prong variety, which
you use by inserting first the long prone on one side of the cork, then the short prong, then slowly jogging the tool down
along the sides of the cork, then slowly twisting and pulling to remove the cork. This gets around all of the problems with dry,
split or otherwise damaged corks. I think it's the best wine cork remover I've seen. cheers! Hope the cheap champagne masked
the delay! Janice
[jcastro] - 02:34pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#500 of 1135)
Sherrie, great stuff (the Forest Ranger comments)!! Having just returned from a wilderness trip myself, they had some extra
sparkle for me. Leeches! AK!! We ran into those, but only one of us (not me) had to remove any. I kept my pants legs tucked into
my boots when walking ashore during landings. Thanks for the laughs. Janice
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 02:40pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#501 of 1135)
Also, if you store wine bottles atilt, the cork will not dry out.
Ray--Well, of course, ARMED peasants tend to be uppity. [wardaddy] - 02:40pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#502 of 1135)
Mel
There is an even better corkscrew design that I have been using for years. It has a bottle cap opener for a handle. I has two
handles that raise up as you screw the corkscrew into the cork and the housing slides down over the neck. You screw the
corkscrew in by turning the bottle-opener handle and when the corkscrew is fully screwed in, the handles form a "Y". You
take one in each hand and force them down. As you do so, the corkscrew removes the cork. It gives you a great deal of
mechanical advantage and makes removing a cork very easy.
I hope that I have painted a good enough mind picture for you so that you recognize one of these when you se one.
[jcastro] - 03:08pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#503 of 1135)
Yep, that's a good one too, Wardaddy. All wine shops and many grocery stores carry them. The one I described, which has two
straight flat prongs (no corkscrew) is harder to find, but more reliable since it does not have to establish a secure seat in a
damaged cork. Good luck Mel!
Cat [Catrin] - 03:58pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#504 of 1135)
"You know I must in Babette's defense since she is not here, say, when she does appear, LOL, she is going to blow you all out of
the WATER. No doubt about it." (snkls)
What a coincidence! Snkls, you are the ONLY person - besides Babette - that I have ever seen put an "LOL" in the middle of a
sentence...
;-D
The "T" on my T-Strap stands for "Tippy Toes" [TireBiter] - 04:02pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#505 of 1135)
Cat, have you forgotten lara? Has it been that long?
[spagz] - 04:07pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#506 of 1135)
richos The running off b-9 will do is her mouth!spagz
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 05:27pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#507 of
1135)
Hey Cat....lol.....what's up? ;-D
Cat [Catrin] - 06:29pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#508 of 1135)
"Hey Cat....lol.....what's up? ;-D" (Coot)
The jig...as in, "the jig is LOL up!" VBG
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 07:10pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#509 of 1135)
Janice and Wardaddy
Thanks for the tips. I do have one of those cork screws with arms but my husband took it with him while he's on a business
trip. I think I also had one like Janice described but I couldn't find it any where. I'm not much of a wine drinker, so i don't keep
up witht hat stuff much.
We did push the cork in and had to strain pieces of cork. Wish I had thought of the coffee filter! Great idea!
Anyway, the wine was nice and I think I will invest in another decent corkscrew that I will put somewhere where I won't lose
it!
Ray--Well, of course, ARMED peasants tend to be uppity. [wardaddy] - 08:24pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#510 of 1135)
Mel
There's another good cork remover that my ex-wife, the housekeeper (she kept the house when we divorced), and I had. It had
a long hollow needle that you pushed throught the cork and then pumped on the thing until the air pressure inside the bottle
pushed the cork out. No torn up cork and no effort required.
Sinful Fornicator and lovin' it [MadCyberPoet] - 09:03pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#511 of 1135)
Damn, Dave's quick!!
So was it jollie that made the bet?
You got some $$$$$$ coming your way?
[jollyollie] - 09:06pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#512 of 1135)
I was off by 30 minutes tho! LOL
Sinful Fornicator and lovin' it [MadCyberPoet] - 09:07pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#513 of 1135)
Ah, but you said by 9:30!!
[jollyollie] - 09:09pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#514 of 1135)
LOL, that's true!
Kind, Gentle, Politically Correct [Panama Hank] - 09:35pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#515 of 1135)
Hey Dave, what happened to the money thread. I almost made a lot money.
[DaveGin] - 09:41pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#516 of 1135)
Sorry, Hank.
But my deal was with Jollie
DaveGin
[jollyollie] - 09:54pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#517 of 1135)
...*chuckle*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 10:11pm Jul 19, 1998 EST (#518 of 1135)
Sheesh, take my kid to the beach and I miss a LOT...someone email me and tell me about the money thread.
Cinymngirl@writeme.com
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:30pm Jul 20, 1998 EST (#519 of 1135)
"Contraceptive98"
Microsoft Corporation has taken another step toward dominating every aspect of American life with the introduction of
Contraceptive98, a suite of applications designed for users who engage in sex.
Microsoft has been a pioneer in peer-to-peer connectivity and plug and play. It believes these technologies will give it
substantial leverage in penetrating the copulation enhancement market.
The product addresses two important user concerns: the need for virus protection and the need for a firewall to ensure the
non-propagation of human beings.
The Contraceptive98 suite consists of three products: Condom98, DeFetus 1.0 (from Sementec), and AIDScan 2.1 (from Norton
Utilities). A free copy of Intercourse Explorer 4.0 is bundled in the package.
The suite also comes in two expanded versions. Contraceptive98 Professional is the Client/Server edition, for professionals in
the sexual services sector. Contraceptive98 Small Business Edition is a package for start-ups, aimed at the housewife and gigolo
niches.
While Contraceptive98 does not address non-traditional copulatory channels, future plug-ins are planned for next year. They
will be known as BackDoor, AuraLee, TitElation, and JerkOff.
OPERATION
Only one node in a peer-to-peer connection needs to install the package. At installation, the Condom98 software checks for
minimum hardware. If the user meets the requirements, the product installs and is sufficiently scaleable to meet most
requirements. After installation, operation commences. One caution is that the user must have sufficient RAM to complete the
session. When the session is complete, a disconnect is initiated, and the user gets the message, It is now safe to turn off your
partner.
DRAWBACKS
Usability testers report that frequent failures were a major concern during beta testing. General Protection Fault was the most
serious error encountered. Early versions had numerous bugs, but most of these have been eliminated. The product needs to be
installed each time it is used.
CONCLUSION
Contraceptive98 is a robust product. Despite its drawbacks, it is a reasonably good value for its $49.95 price tag, and is far
superior to its shareware version. Hopefully, future releases (of the software, that is) will add missing functionality, such as
Backout and Restore, Uninterruptible Power Supply, and Onboard Camera. Microsoft CEO Bill Gates is optimistic about
Contraceptive98's potential. He recently said, "Our contraceptive products will help users do to each other what we've been
doing to our customers for years."
Cat [Catrin] - 07:28am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#520 of 1135)
Some morning quickies:
Dan Quayle hired one of the country's top campaign managers to manage his bid for the White House in 2000. The guy was
hired just in time. Quayle was this close to coming out against HMO's in the military.
The marketers of Viagra have a new slogan, "Let the Dance Begin". This is much better than the original, "Brace Yourself,
Grandma!" (Leno)
Investigators are moving closer to figuring out why John Denver's plane crashed. But they still can't figure out how sunshine
on your shoulder would make you high. (Daily Scoop)
Princess Diana's brother, Earl Spencer - who condemned the press for capitalizing on his sisters death - opened a Diana
museum on his estate and is charging $15 for admission. No word yet on when he plans to market a Diana action figure.
Madonna will make her London stage debut in Tennessee Williams' "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" next summer. It will be a faithful
rendition of the play, except for one thing - the title will be changed to "Cat in a Hot Tin Bra".
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 07:39am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#521 of 1135)
Thanks, Cat! I especially enjoyed the Quayle joke. It put me in the perfect mood for harvesting garlic. I'm outta here.
Cat [Catrin] - 08:27am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#522 of 1135)
I just found the greatest thing since sliced bread! Post-it notes for the computer, that you can jot things on and it stays on top
when you go to a different thread...you can make up to 32 of them...and you can make them any size you like.
They're called Centaurus Notes - you can try them free for 14 days, and if you like them, they're $10.00.
Size: 1678 K
File name: cnotes51.zip
Download from:
http://search.shareware.com/code/engine/File?archive=winsite-win95&file=pim%2fcnotes51%2ezip&size=1718127
From the description: "Centaurus Notes is a utility program for Windows 95 that enables you to maintain reminder notes on
your computer. You can create up to 32 individual notes. Each note is resizable and editable using standard editing procedures.
Centaurus Notes will save the positions and contents of every note. The next time you bring up the program, the notes will look
exactly the same way you left them when you previously unloaded the program.
All program functions can be performed by the mouse or shortcut keys."
I love it!!!!!!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:10am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#523 of 1135)
Cat
I've got a message center/screen saver program called Corkboard where you can maintain a clock, calendar, post-it notes and
other stuff. It's free and very helpful for my scatter-brained life!
Cat [Catrin] - 09:18am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#524 of 1135)
Mel
But does it stay on top of the screen, the same size of a post-it, while you're going from thread to thread?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 09:25am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#525 of 1135)
No it doesn't. You click an icon to bring it up. This is just for to do lists and reminders, not for working with different threads.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 10:17am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#526 of
1135)
I've got Corkboard. I have one note that tells me to try to get a date every day. It's been there ever since I got the program. :-(
I don't think it's working.
[spagz] - 10:24am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#527 of 1135)
Cooter Good Morn! you know,that you might have not thought of a better use for that corkboard! Have to go, SEARCHING FOR
PAULA!spagz
Cat [Catrin] - 10:29am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#528 of 1135)
The PERFECT comeback:
Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, "I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging, or of some vile disease".
Disraeli replied, "That all depends, Sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
;-D
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 10:32am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#529 of
1135)
I think that spagz has the hots for Paula. ;-^)
Cat [Catrin] - 11:03am Jul 21, 1998 EST (#530 of 1135)
Aw, geez, poor spagz...that's WORSE than an ad hom...
;-D
[DaveGin] - 12:28pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#531 of 1135)
And I always thought it meant "Stupid Oxen
Submitted by a friend for your TOL pleasure: Feel free to add your own, such as federal worker, military intelligence,
journalistic ethics...
Oxymorons
Act naturally
Found missing
Resident alien
Advanced BASIC
Genuine imitation
Good grief
Same difference
Almost exactly
Sanitary landfill
Alone together
Living dead
Small crowd
Business ethics
New classic
Sweet sorrow
Childproof
"Now, then ..."
Synthetic natural gas
Passive aggression
Taped live
Clearly misunderstood
Peace force
Extinct Life
Computer jock
Plastic glasses
Terribly pleased
Computer security
Political science
Tight slacks
Definite maybe
Pretty ugly
Twelve-ounce pound cake
Diet ice cream
Rap music
Working vacation
Exact estimate
Microsoft Works
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 12:34pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#532 of 1135)
The classic...
Jumbo shrimp
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 08:33pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#533 of 1135)
Dave
I haven't been able to access CNN AllPolitics news for a day or two. Can you help?
[spagz] - 08:40pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#534 of 1135)
PAULA,COME BACK,PAULA!I need your brain for a transplant. IT has never been used! spagz
just left of Center & Frying eggs on the sidewalk!- LindaLu [mcpatlin] - 08:40pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#535 of 1135)
Dave, me either. Can you at least tell us what is going on so our level of frustration can come down a notch or two? Thanks, LM
93%Liberal [QGrayson] - 08:40pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#536 of 1135)
--- Denver didn't do drugs after Reagan was elected. When he did 'do drugs' it was only pot...never the hard stuff. ---
---
[spagz] - 08:41pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#537 of 1135)
PAULA,COME BACK,PAULA!I need your brain for a transplant. IT has never been used! Spagz
[DaveGin] - 09:00pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#538 of 1135)
Sorry, folks
Trying to keep you plugged in to Time on Pathfinder is the best I can do. (And we all know how well I do that.)
CNN takes care of its own.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 11:33pm Jul 21, 1998 EST (#539 of 1135)
LITTLE KNOWN LAWS REGARDING SEX
Here's something Ken Starr should really look into...Excerpts from Robert Wayne Pelton's Loony Sex Laws that You Never Knew
You Were Breaking (Walker and Company):
In the quiet town of Connorsville, Wisconsin, it's illegal for a man to shoot off a gun when his female partner has an orgasm.
It's against the law in Willowdale, Oregon, for a husband to curse during sex.
In Oblong, Illinois, it's punishable by law to make love while hunting or fishing on your wedding day.
No man is allowed to make love to his wife with the smell of garlic, onions, or sardines on his breath in Alexandria, Minnesota.
If his wife so requests, law mandates that he must brush his teeth.
Warn your hubby that after lovemaking in Ames, Iowa, he isn't allowed to take more than three gulps of beer while lying in
bed with you - or holding you in his arms.
Bozeman, Montana, has a law that bans all sexual activity between members of the opposite sex in the front yard of a home
after sundown - if they're nude. (Apparently, if you wear socks, you're safe from the law!)
In hotels in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, every room is required to have twin beds. And the beds must always be a minimum of two
feet apart when a couple rents a room for only one night. And it's illegal to make love on the floor between the beds!
The owner of every hotel in Hastings, Nebraska, is required to provide each guest with a clean and pressed nightshirt. No
couple, even if they are married, may sleep together in the nude. Nor may they have sex unless they are wearing one of these
clean, white cotton nightshirts.
An ordinance in Newcastle, Wyoming, specifically bans couples from having sex while standing inside a store's walk-in-meat
freezer!
A state law in Illinois mandates that all bachelors should be called master, not mister, when addressed by their female
counterparts.
In Norfolk, Virginia, a woman can't go out without wearing a corset. (There was a civil-service job - for men only - called a
corset inspector.)
However, in Merryville, Missouri, women are prohibited from wearing corsets because "the privilege of admiring the
curvaceous, unencumbered body of a young woman should not be denied to the normal, red-blooded American male."
It's safe to make love while parked in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Police officers aren't allowed to walk up and knock on the window.
Any suspicious officer who thinks that sex is taking place must drive up from behind, honk his horn three times and wait
approximately two minutes before getting out of his car to investigate.
Another law in Helena, Montana, mandates that a woman can't dance on a table in a saloon or bar unless she has on at least
three pounds, two ounces of clothing.
Lovers in Liberty Corner, New Jersey, should avoid satisfying their lustful urges in a parked car. If the horn accidentally
sounds while they are frolicking behind the wheel, the couple can face a jail term.
In Carlsbad, New Mexico, it's legal for couples to have sex in a parked vehicle during their lunch break from work, as long as
the car or van has drawn curtains to stop strangers from peeking in.
A Florida sex law: If you're a single, divorced, or widowed woman, you can't parachute on Sunday afternoons.
Women aren't allowed to wear patent -leather shoes in Cleveland, Ohio: a man might see the reflection of something "he
oughtn't!"
No woman may have sex with a man while riding in an ambulance within the boundaries of Tremonton, Utah. If caught, the
woman can be charged with a sexual misdemeanor and "her name is to be published in the local newspaper." The man isn't
charged nor is his name revealed.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 12:55am Jul 22, 1998 EST (#540 of
1135)
Sherrie sweetie, from what I have heard about some men, it would be the woman that would shoot off a gun in the event that
she had one!
Of course, well....I think I'd better quit here..... ;-)
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:17am Jul 22, 1998 EST (#541 of 1135)
::::pondering::::
Cat [Catrin] - 11:03am Jul 22, 1998 EST (#542 of 1135)
Okay you guys...are ya ready for something WEIRD???
Three guys who are friends, whose wives are visiting relatives in other parts of Mexico (and they are therefore hanging out
together) invited me to the movies last night. Not having been out for awhile, I accepted.
In the middle of the night last night, I got up to go to the bathroom. My bathroom is off the bedroom, and the door to the
bedroom was closed (to keep the cats out).
While in the bathroom, I was thinking that I surprised myself by having had a really good time at the movies...and then I was
thinking - wondering, actually - if it would be a terrible thing for me to go out with a man with whom I have a platonic
relationship - if it would be disloyal to my husband. I left the bathroom, closed the door behind me, and sat down on the bed.
Suddenly there was a big crash in the bathroom. I went back in there, and my husband's shaving gel can was lying on the
floor. It had been on the sink - way back, against the wall.
Nobody was there...the cats weren't there...the floor is level, so it couldn't have slid in any way...and surely it did NOT jump off
the sink of its own accord.
???
Ray--Well of course ARMED peasants tend to be uppity [wardaddy] - 11:16am Jul 22, 1998 EST (#543 of 1135)
Catrin
Get out and enjoy life. It's the only one you have.
After my divorce, the kids were worried sick that I was sitting home at night, brooding. They were very happy to meet the girl
that I started going out with a few months after the divorce. We were (and are) just very good friends still.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 11:52am Jul 22, 1998 EST (#544 of
1135)
Cat, if I had been your husband, I would want you to get out and have a normal life. I'm sure that he loved you very much, and
because of that, he would want you to do some things that you will enjoy. Go for it.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:38pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#545 of 1135)
And yet, there's that unexplained can of shaving gel that fell, seemingly on its own......................
Cat [Catrin] - 01:06pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#546 of 1135)
Indeed, GW! *G*
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:16pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#547 of 1135)
Cat: I do believe that people who have passed on can linger here for a while.
I can only speak for myself, but if I were you, I'd wait a while and let my husband move on to the next plane of existence.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:17pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#548 of 1135)
Dave: There's a guy named kashman who's spamming the Attorney General Reno thread with junk mail.
Can you squash him, like a bug?
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:23pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#549 of 1135)
Cat darlin, two questions...
1) How much do you weigh?
2) How hard did ya sit on the bed?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:25pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#550 of 1135)
another thought...maybe he was suggesting that as long as you were gonna be platonically dating, his shaving gel shouldn't go
to waste...
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:47pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#551 of 1135)
Subject: 26 Maxims for a New Age
1. Home is where you hang your @
2. The E-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail.
3. A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click.
4. You can't teach a new mouse old clicks.
5. Great groups from little icons grow.
6. Speak softly and carry a cellular phone.
7. C:\ is the root of all directories.
8. Don't put all your hypes in one home page.
9. Pentium wise; pen and paper foolish.
10. The modem is the message.
11. Too many clicks spoil the browse.
12. The geeks shall inherit the earth.
13. A chat has nine lives.
14. Don't byte off more than you can view.
15. Fax is stranger than fiction.
16. What boots up must come down.
17. Will Windows never cease.
18. In Gates we trust.
19. Virtual reality is its own reward.
20. Modulation in all things.
21. A user and his leisure time are soon parted.
22. There's no place like http://www.home.com
23. Know what to expect before you connect.
24. Oh, what a tangled web site we weave.
25. Speed thrills.
26. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:38pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#552 of 1135)
Dave: What's the weather like down your way? Has your computer melted?
[masontwo] - 04:51pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#553 of 1135)
Has Dave ever described just how he works at this? Does he have banks of pc screens with different threads, posters? A single
screen? How often are threads monitored....how many folks do this..are they in different locales? Or huddled together in an
airconditioned room...
I'd enjoy a little discourse on the physical set up and logistics......
Thank you so much.
[Snow Pea] - 04:55pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#554 of 1135)
I asked Dave about this once before Mason, but he never gave me a straight answer. C'mon Dave, inquiring minds want to
know.
[jollyollie] - 05:00pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#555 of 1135)
I've got this funny feeling that the more frequent ad hom posters are hot listed everytime they post. Then Dave just has to
quickly scan each time they post.....
[masontwo] - 05:35pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#556 of 1135)
So Jolly...if there is a hotlist, guess Dave wouldn't really want to start up on this thing...understandable..
[jollyollie] - 05:38pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#557 of 1135)
Just a wild ass guess mind you....
[DaveGin] - 11:35pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#558 of 1135)
It was SOOO hot...
GW, It is now July 22. Sixteen of those days have been above 100. It's even worse along the border with Mexico, where six days
fell below 100 since June. It's truly murderous weather. More about that later.
As for the chain-letter spammer, his little bug butt has been squashed. And sent to the lawyers. Let me know if you see any
more of that junk around.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 11:40pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#559 of 1135)
how many folks do this..are they in different locales?
Oh, Mason, that's a good one.
Or huddled together in an airconditioned room...AHAHAHAHA! Stop it, you're killing me....
Mason. I have melded my Mind with the Great Consciousness of Pathfinder. I have become One with All. I have the Vision. And
I can tell you, Mason, it wouldn't kill you to clean up the place once in a while.
And, for heaven's sake, Jollie, sit up straight. And don't fidget.
DaveGin
[jollyollie] - 11:44pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#560 of 1135)
..*gulp*
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 11:45pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#561 of 1135)
DaveGin:
How do I become a member of the hotlist club? Is it similar to the hotlips club? Conspiring minds would like to know...
Libby [mbette] - 11:46pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#562 of 1135)
Dave, if we all behave very nicely for one week, do you think we could take a field trip? Maybe to your spacious Pathfinder
Headquarters - you could give us the nickel tour.
Please, please, please?
[DanielFox] - 11:48pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#563 of 1135)
Libby --
ALL of us behave NICELY? For a whole WEEK? You mean SIMULTANEOUSLY???
What are the odds?
93%Liberal [QGrayson] - 11:49pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#564 of 1135)
--- Huh? Well...I just may have at one time broken the Hastings, Nebraska law. ---
---
[jollyollie] - 11:51pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#565 of 1135)
slim odds.... I hear that Dave's office is deep under ground where that super collider was supposed to be....
Libby [mbette] - 11:53pm Jul 22, 1998 EST (#566 of 1135)
I'll admit you have a point, Daniel. Probably the only way that could happen is if we all stay off the board for a week.
Nevermind. :)
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 12:00am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#567 of 1135)
DaveGin:
Your office is located in the SuperMonkey Collider tunnel? Do they still have the holographic banana projector down there?
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:02am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#568 of 1135)
It is now after midnight on the east coast...
Cooter, darlin, you may tell me happy birthday ;-)
[spagz] - 12:06am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#569 of 1135)
dave-- Dennis Miller "Wm. Shakspeare0nce said,The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers.Of course,he said that after he lost
all his sonnets in a nasty divorce settlement with Lady Anna Nicole Smith! I say,we make law school 4 yrs.-The last yr.spent
learning how to vaguely resemble a human being.And most important,if you want to get a bad guy off thro. a sleezy
loophole,he bunks with you!"spagz
[jollyollie] - 12:10am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#570 of 1135)
Happy 36th Birthday Sherrie!
We're not ALL scumsucking toads [DanielFox] - 12:36am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#571 of 1135)
Happy birthday Sherrie!
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 12:38am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#572 of 1135)
I third that sentiment, Sherrie (or is it fourth?)!
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 12:41am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#573 of 1135)
LOLOLOL Jim, you sweetheart, if you weren't married I'd fall in love ;-D
Thanks, guys, I am promoting it shamelessly.
[spagz] - 12:42am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#574 of 1135)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHERRIE!Many more to come!IRISH TOAST-May the best thing that happed to last yr. be the worst thing that
happeds to you this yr.!spagz
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:45am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#575 of 1135)
Sherrie!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 08:47am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#576 of 1135)
Sherrie: Happy birthday, you flaming leftist. How did I know you would be a Leo?
dunite [babblingbrook] - 08:56am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#577 of 1135)
Happy Birthday, fellow Leo!May it kick off one of the best years of your life!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:26am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#578 of 1135)
Dave: a question
I've just come from a thread where another poster trashed me from head to toes.
I don't have a problem with getting trashed (that is part of the fun of being a Pathfinder member, isn't it?). However, the
trasher made his points by misquoting me and distorting my message.
Have you ever considered sanctions against people who do that? If someone came to you with a cut-and-paste of what they said,
and then produced a cut-and-paste of a deliberate misquote, would you take action against the misquoter?
Thanks for your consideration of this question.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 09:36am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#579 of 1135)
Thanks everyone!!!
LOLOL GW, actually I am a Cleo, today is the day it changes.
[DaveGin] - 09:37am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#580 of 1135)
You're a wee bit vague on the details, GW.
Why don't you drop me an email and tell me what happened.
As for tours of the luxurious Pathfinder Operations Center...I'm afraid that's impossible. We're actually housed in an old missile
silo in Nebraska and some of the old Air Force guards refused to leave.
They're still pretty insistent on security precautions.
But the idea of everyone being especially nice and polite for one week sounds nice. I'd settle for one day.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 09:39am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#581 of 1135)
Happy Birthday, Sherrie. May you have many more.
And another Irish prayer for your natal day.
May you be surrounded by friends and those you love. And may God strike your enemies on the knee so you'll know them by
the limp.
(BTW: My moustache is nearly as old as you.)
DaveGin
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 09:41am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#582 of
1135)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHERRIE BABY!!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:46am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#583 of 1135)
Dave: I can't get your email address. The links (Send mail to host...Dave McLemore) don't work. If you'll post your email address
here, I'll email you.
Ray--The only gun control that we need was passed in 1791. [wardaddy] - 09:46am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#584 of 1135)
Happy birthday,Sherrie<>/font>
And many, many more, young lady!
(That makes you one day older than I am.)
And, GW, July 23 is on the cusp (and that exhausts my knowledge of astrology).
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 09:53am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#585 of 1135)
Happy Birthday Sherrie! You Lovable, Loud,
Lefty, Liberal!
snkls [snichols] - 11:00am Jul 23, 1998 EST (#586 of 1135)
Dave
I'd like to start a topic concerning the Y2K problem. I thought there was one on this thread but could not find it. I see there is
one on the technology thread from May, however I believe after the article I just read in the Mag, Wired, that this is a political
issue not to mention should be discussed by more of the average person. Geeks don't always have all the answers LOL. What do
ya say?
[Snow Pea] - 12:39pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#587 of 1135)
Has anyone's knees started aching? Happy Birthday, mon Sher!
Ray: Guns don't kill people, it's the bullets. Guns get them going faster. [wardaddy] - 01:07pm Jul 23, 1998 EST
(#588 of 1135)
Sherrie
Actually, I think that the change takes place on the 26th and the 23th, 24th, and 25th are cups days. Means we are part
whatever comes before Leo and Leo. (Does that mean shifty?)
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:14pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#589 of 1135)
Ray: Cancer comes before Leo.
sherrie: Did you ever have your horoscope done? Do you know what your moon sign and your rising sign are?
You'll probably guffaw, ray, but I put some stock in natal astrology.
Okay, go ahead and guffaw.
[DaveGin] - 01:47pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#590 of 1135)
Letters, we get letters...
GW, try time-host@pathfinder.com.
You should know that Ringo Starr and I share a natal day. And there isn't a shred of similarity between us - save that we're
white males. I mean, he even talks funny.
DaveGin
Ray: Guns don't kill people, it's the bullets. Guns get them going faster. [wardaddy] - 01:57pm Jul 23, 1998 EST
(#591 of 1135)
GW
That puts Sherrie and I on the cusp of Cancer and Leo.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 02:11pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#592 of 1135)
Dave: Thanks for the email address, but I won't pursue it. rocketman acknowledged the bogus quote, so I'm not interested in
retaliation.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 04:00pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#593 of
1135)
A man decides to take the opportunity while his wife is away to paint the toilet seat.
The wife comes home sooner than expected, sits and gets the seat stuck to her rear. She is understandably distraught about this
and asks her husband to drive her to the doctor.
She puts on a large overcoat so as to cover the stuck seat, and they go. When they get to the doctor's, the man lifts his wife's coat
to show their predicament.
The man asks, "Doctor, have you ever seen anything like this before?"
"Well, yes," the doctor replies, "but never framed."
[masontwo] - 04:44pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#594 of 1135)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHERRIE FROM GLADYS
AND ALL THE GANG
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:45pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#595 of 1135)
mason: That was a nice picture of a fine American.
Was there a point?
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [nuckfewt] - 04:47pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#596 of 1135)
Yeah, Mason, what happened to the frame?
[spagz] - 04:48pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#597 of 1135)
M2 Passed him in both lanes! ROTFLMAO! spagz
[masontwo] - 04:55pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#598 of 1135)
Oh ye gods.....nuck and gwash......
use your damned mouse.....
(and Sherrie told me not to give 'hints' ....see what I mean, Sherrie?)
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 04:58pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#599 of 1135)
m2
You are so cute! And I'd already emailed Drudge that that picture was Ken considering Sherrie's offer to run off to Paris with
him!
[masontwo] - 05:00pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#600 of 1135)
Sherrie's already gone.....Kenny and Aaron really, really hit it off..
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:01pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#601 of 1135)
m2
I don't want to be in your shoes when she sees that comment! ROFL!
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 05:06pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#602 of 1135)
That's really cool!
Ain't it?
[masontwo] - 06:17pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#603 of 1135)
SGTTAG.....most interesting post you've made in months!
Stay on that topic.
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 06:22pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#604 of 1135)
Mason!
I am staying on topic, And I thought the topic was invisble fonts!
[masontwo] - 06:29pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#605 of 1135)
SGGTAG.....This is your forte! You have discovered ONE thing you are really, really good at....
Leave political reasoning to those who can..in the field of invisible writing you are the best....Stay with it.
Cat [Catrin] - 06:47pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#606 of 1135)
"Has Dave ever described just how he works at this? Does he have banks of pc screens with different threads, posters? A single
screen? How often are threads monitored....how many folks do this..are they in different locales? Or huddled together in an
airconditioned room... " (Mason)
Does it on his laptop, while he's drivin' the bus...
;-D
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 06:59pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#607 of 1135)
Sorry to be dry, dull, and boring, but I'm guessing that Dave's Pathfinder interface looks identical to ours except he gets a
delete button at the bottom of every post and an edit/delete console somewhere for deleting topics and editing topic intros.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 08:28pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#609 of
1135)
Politically correct ways to say someone is intellectually challenged
Ever want to call someone stupid, but want to do it in a way that is a little different? Here are some old and some new
suggestions sent in by various people...
He's a few clowns short of a circus.
She's a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
He's an experiment in artificial stupidity.
She's dumber than a box of hair.
He's a few peas short of a casserole.
She doesn't have all her Corn Flakes in one box.
The wheels spinning but the hamster's dead.
He's a few feathers short of a whole duck.
He's all foam...no coke.
The cheese slid off her cracker.
Body by Fisher, brains by Mattel.
He has an IQ of 2, but it takes 3 to grunt.
She couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
He fell out of the Stupid Tree and hit every branch on the way down.
His intellect is rivaled only by garden tools.
He's as smart as bait.
Her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.
His antenna doesn't pick up all the channels.
If she had another brain, it would be lonely.
There's no grain in his silo.
He's proof that evolution can go in reverse.
Too much yardage between the goal posts.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 08:44pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#610 of 1135)
Dave's modus operandi
Okay, since you asked, here it is:
Dave's modus operandi
He sits at home, in his underwear, a gristly stubble covering his face. A cowboy hat is perched atop matted hair, and a bottle of
Lone Star beer sits next to his computer (even though it's 9:00 am in Texas).
And thus, from this Olympian vantage point, when he's not making trips to the bathroom or checking up on what Oprah or
Jerry Springer are up to, Dave dispenses wisdom and monitors our ant-like existence on Pathfinder's Politics.
Anything else you want to know?
[masontwo] - 09:12pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#611 of 1135)
......and monitors our ant-like existence on Pathfinder's Politics.
Are we nothing more then ants to the great Dave.....you mean that behind the curtain there is not the Great Wizard of Oz but
simply a grizzly cowboy drinking cheap beer?
And he thinks we're ANTS?
This is worse than I thought....
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 09:24pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#612 of 1135)
You guys are the greatest, LOLOL Mase I LOVED the card from Gladys.
Sigh, maybe a hint or two now and then...
Off to dinner with my son and mother, ain't life grand???? NO DISHES!!!!
[spagz] - 10:51pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#613 of 1135)
cooter One beer shy of a 6 pack THX for the list.spagz
[spagz] - 11:01pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#614 of 1135)
cooter Cokie Roberts "My mother, as amb. to the Vatican, is in the curious position of explaining Clinton to the Pope." spagz
[DaveGin] - 11:49pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#615 of 1135)
You're wrong, GW
I don't wear hats.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 11:52pm Jul 23, 1998 EST (#616 of 1135)
Hey, Cat....
Have you ever ridden on a cross-country bus in Mexico. Holding somebody's kid on your lap.
Smelling the diesel fumes and watching the looks of horror on cars the driver passes on the right.
Keeping an eye on the guy drunk on pulque in the back because he seems to be bleeding over the seat.
Sometimes that's how I feel about this place. Except, on the Mexican bus, you pretty much knew where you were going.
DaveGin
[masontwo] - 12:55am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#617 of 1135)
DaveGin:
Do you know how the Free Republic gets away with pasting entire signed articles from Salon..the Conason and Broder columns
today, entire AP items, New York Newsday featured columns today, New York Times signed column today.......
The entire forum is based on pasting stolen intellectual property and inviting outraged readers to respond.
It is here....if you ever have a moment to sample let us know sometime why no one objects.
[jollyollie] - 01:15am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#618 of 1135)
Mason, read the fine print of virtually any board. They're covered for anything.
[jollyollie] - 01:16am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#619 of 1135)
Dave: that image of the bus was so vivid, I actually got a sennse of dread over possibly having to use the onboard washroom!
*YUCK*
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 01:19am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#620 of 1135)
want an even bigger sense of dread? They don't HAVE onboard washrooms. Uh, and nobody seems to mind.
[jollyollie] - 01:24am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#621 of 1135)
... make that *DOUBLEYUCK*!!!!!!
[masontwo] - 02:20am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#622 of 1135)
Well Ollie..it does't seem right to form an entire business on the intelligence of others, unpaid employees no sir. And these
forums make money, you bet. They're ALL Republican!
Anyhow, here is this weeks selection of "best" English language fiction of the 20th Century. (You-all seem to enjoy lists a lot.
You may have missed this one.)
1. "Ulysses," James Joyce
2. "The Great Gatsby," F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," James Joyce
4. "Lolita," Vladimir Nabokov
5. "Brave New World," Aldous Huxley
6. "The Sound and the Fury," William Faulkner
7."Catch-22," Joseph Helle
8. "Darkness at Noon," Arthur Koestler
9. "Sons and Lovers," D.H. Lawrence
10"The Grapes of Wrath," John Steinbeck
11. "Under the Volcano," Malcolm Lowry
12. "The Way of All Flesh," Samuel Butler
13. "1984," George Orwell
14. "I, Claudius," Robert Graves
15. "To the Lighthouse," Virginia Woolf
16. "An American Tragedy," Theodore Dreiser
17. "The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter," Carson McCullers
18. "Slaughterhouse Five," Kurt Vonnegut
19"Invisible Man," Ralph Ellison
20. "Native Son," Richard Wright
21. "Henderson the Rain King," Saul Bellow
22. "Appointment in Samarra," John O'Hara
23. "U.S.A." (trilogy), John Dos Passos
24. "Winesburg, Ohio," Sherwood Anderson
25. "A Passage to India," E.M. Forster
26. "The Wings of the Dove," Henry James
27. "The Ambassadors," Henry James
28. "Tender Is the Night," F. Scott Fitzgerald
29. "The Studs Lonigan Trilogy," James T. Farrell
30. "The Good Soldier," Ford Maddox Ford
31. "Animal Farm," George Orwell
32. "The Golden Bowl," Henry James
33. "Sister Carrie," Theodore Dreiser
34. "A Handful of Dust," Evelyn Waugh
35. "As I Lay Dying," William Faulkner
36. "All the King's Men," Robert Penn Warren
37. "The Bridge of San Luis Rey," Thornton Wilder
38. "Howards End," E.M. Forster
39. "Go Tell It on the Mountain," James Baldwin
40. "The Heart of the Matter," Graham Greene
41. "Lord of the Flies," William Golding
42. "Deliverance," James Dickey
43. "A Dance to the Music of Time" (series), Anthony Powell
44. "Point Counter Point," Aldous Huxley
45. "The Sun Also Rises," Ernest Hemingway
46. "The Secret Agent," Joseph Conrad
47. "Nostromo," Joseph Conrad
48. "The Rainbow," D.H. Lawrence
49. "Women in Love," D.H. Lawrence
50. "Tropic of Cancer," Henry Miller
51. "The Naked and the Dead," Norman Mailer
52. "Portnoy's Complaint," Philip Roth
53. "Pale Fire," Vladimir Nabokov
54. "Light in August," William Faulkner
55. "On the Road," Jack Kerouac
56. "The Maltese Falcon," Dashiell Hammett
57. "Parade's End," Ford Maddox Ford
58. "The Age of Innocence," Edith Wharton
59. "Zuleika Dobson," Max Beerbohm
60. "The Moviegoer," Walker Percy
61. "Comes to the "Death Archbishop," Willa Cather
62."From Here to Eternity," James Jones
63. "The Wapshot Chronicles," John Cheever
64. "The Catcher in the Rye," J.D. Salinger
65. "A Clockwork Orange," Anthony Burgess
66. "Of Human Bondage," W. Somerset Maugham
67. "Heart of Darkness," Joseph Conrad
68. "Main Street," Sinclair Lewis
69. "The House of Mirth," Edith Wharton
70. "The Alexandria Quartet," Lawrence Durrell
71. "A High Wind in Jamaica," Richard Hughes
72. "A House for Ms. Biswas," V.S. Naipaul
73. "The Day of the Locust," Nathaniel West
74. "A Farewell to Arms," Ernest Hemingway
75. "Scoop," Evelyn Waugh
76. "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie," Muriel Spark
77. "Finnegans Wake," James Joyce
78. "Kim," Rudyard Kipling
79. "A Room With a View," E.M. Forster
80. "Brideshead Revisited," Evelyn Waugh
81. "The Adventures of Augie March," Saul Bellow
82. "Angle of Repose," Wallace Stegner
83. "A Bend in the River," V.S. Naipaul
84. "The Death of the Heart," Elizabeth Bowen
85. "Lord Jim," Joseph Conrad
86. "Ragtime," E.L. Doctorow
87. "The Old Wives' Tale," Arnold Bennett
88. "The Call of the Wild," Jack London
89. "Loving," Henry Green
90. "Midnight's Children," Salman Rushdie
91. "Tobacco Road," Erskine Caldwell
92. "Ironweed," William Kennedy
93. "The Magus," John Fowles
94. "Wide Sargasso Sea," Jean Rhys
95. "Under the Net," Iris Murdoch
96. "Sophie's Choice," William Styron
97. "The Sheltering Sky," Paul Bowles
98. "The Postman Always Rings Twice," James M. Cain
99. "The Ginger Man," J.P. Donleavy
100. "The Magnificent Ambersons," Booth Tarkington
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 05:49am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#623 of 1135)
58 things NOT to say to a naked guy
1. I've smoked fatter joints than that.
2. Ahh, it's cute.
3. Who circumcised you?
4. Why don't we just cuddle?
5. You know, they have surgery to fix that.
6. It's more fun to look at.
7. Make it dance.
8. You know, there's a tower in Italy like that.
9. Can I paint a smiley face on that?
10. It looks like a nightcrawler.
11. Wow, and your feet are so big.
12. My last boyfriend was 4" bigger.
13. It's OK, we'll work around it.
14. Is this a mild or a spicy Slim Jim?
15. Eww, there's an inchworm on your thigh.
16. Will it squeak if I squeeze it?
17. Oh no, a flash headache.
18. (giggle and point)
19. Can I be honest with you?
20. My 8-year-old brother has one like that.
21. Let me go get my tweezers.
22. How sweet, you brought incense.
23. This explains your car.
24. You must be a growing boy.
25. Maybe if we water it, it'll grow.
26. Thanks, I needed a toothpick.
27. Are you one of those pygmies?
28. Have you ever thought of working in a sideshow?
29. Ever hear of Clearasil?
30. All right, a treasure hunt!
31. I didn't know they came that small.
32. Why is God punishing you?
33. At least this won't take long.
34. I never saw one like that before.
35. What do you call this?
36. But it still works, right?
37. Damn I hate baby-sitting.
38. It looks so unused.
39. Do you take steroids?
40. I hear excessive masturbation shrinks it.
41. Maybe it looks better in natural light.
42. Why don't we skip right to the cigarettes?
43. Oh, I didn't know you were in an accident.
44. Did you date Lorena Bobbitt?
45. Aww, it's hiding.
46. Are you cold?
47. If you get me real drunk first.
48. Is that an optical illusion?
49. What is that?
50. I'll go get the ketchup for your French fry.
51. Were you neutered?
52. It's a good thing you have so many other talents.
53. Does it come with an air pump?
54. So this is why you're supposed to judge people on personality.
55. Where are the puppet strings?
56. Your big gun is more like a BB gun.
57. Look, it fits my Barbie clothes!
58. Nevermind, why bother?
[Rich Pasma] - 06:33am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#624 of 1135)
M2,
Thank you for providing the list of top 100 English novels. As I consider myself to be a cultural barbarian, I have read only
about a dozen of the books listed there. I would be interested to see the criteria used in producing this list. For instance Leo
Tolstoy's novels have been published in English. Are translated novels excluded? It would certainly seem to be so. Is science
fiction excluded? I am surprised that neither Kurt Vonnegut nor Ray Bradbury did make the list. In my opinion they wrote
some excellent novels.
What does the 100 best novels really mean in an area of judgement that is so subjective?
A very popular book I would have placed ahead of some of the novels on that list would be, The Pillars of the Earth by Ken
Follet. I have seen Follett in an interview state he failed to understand why people seemed to like that book so much. Why did
James A. Michener of all people not make the list? I have read a quite of few of his novels that I thought were quite good. The
most common complaint I have heard about his novels is that they are to long. I can relate to that.
Maybe not a great literary work, but one of the most entertaining novels that I have read to date is, State Street, by Richard
Whittingham. As far as I can tell this book was never very popular. As far as entertainment goes, what about: David Ignatius,
Steward Woods, Patricia Cornwell, Robin Cook, Robert K. Tannenbaum, or even Tom Clancey. Although not a fan of Steven King,
it would seem that he would have a place here, I know a great number of people that thought his book, "The Stand" was a great
novel.
The thing is, my opinions about novels differ from the people that made this list, and probably from many of the other people
on this board. This in itself does not bother me. Of coarse I am not going out and putting out a list of the best novels. What I
have presented here was intended to be nothing more than some of my opinions about novels. The fact that some people here
may disagree with some of these opinions is not only expected, but also welcomed. As far as some group of elitists trying to put
out opinions as facts, does not sit right with me.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 08:50am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#625 of 1135)
Top 100 novels
mason: Thanks for providing that list. I would comment on 3 of the choices.
Lolita. One of the most fun, entertaining, enlightening books I ever read. I hear they're re-making the movie version. They
shouldn't bother. They already made the definitive version of the movie in the 1950s, with James Mason, Peter Sellers, and
Shelley Winters.
A High Wind in Jamaica. An great book, about pirates who capture some English schoolchildren, and the children wind up
terrorizing the pirates. They made a good movie out of it in 1960, with Anthony Quinn and James Coburn as pirates.
A Portrait of the Artist. I started reading this again (I first read it 30 years ago) back in March. It got so tedious that I put it
aside after reading 3/4 of it. I have no desire to ever pick it up again. "Classic"--my butt!
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 09:15am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#626 of 1135)
I thoroughly detest reading fiction, but even I recall having read seven of those titles in prep school: Brave New World, Grapes
of Wrath, 1984, Animal Farm, All the King's Men, Catcher in the Rye, and Clockwork Orange.
Cat [Catrin] - 09:39am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#627 of 1135)
"Cat darlin, two questions...
1) How much do you weigh?
2) How hard did ya sit on the bed? " (Sherrie)
Who, Me???
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 11:00am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#628 of 1135)
You're wrong, GW
I don't wear hats.
DaveGin
Well, I'm sitting here in my underwear, wearing a cowboy hat, and sipping on a Lone Star.
I'm also at work, so people are looking at me kind of funny.
[Hey! What are YOU lookin' at? You got a problem?]
[jollyollie] - 11:05am Jul 24, 1998 EST (#629 of 1135)
I think the hat probably clashes with the boxers GW....
[DaveGin] - 01:15pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#630 of 1135)
May the lawyers haven't wondered that deep into the Web yet.
Do you know how the Free Republic gets away with pasting entire signed articles from Salon..the Conason and
Broder columns today, entire AP items, New York Newsday featured columns today, New York Times signed
column today......
Nope. If they reprint copyrighted material without prior and express permmission of the copyright holder, they are in
violation of the law. Period.
Not only do they put the bulletin board in jeopardy, but the posters who did the copyright violation are also vulnerable.
Which is why I'm insistant that folks post their own views in their own words and that the cut'n'paste artists NOT post extensive
pieces of copyrighted work on these boards.
We're here to talk and share ideas and opinions - not trade news clips.
Writers and publishers own the words they produce. Take those words and you're stealing their labor. And they guard those
words zealously.
And, Jollie, no disclaimer on any board protects you against copyright theft.
Go to the TIME magazine board and you'll find this at the bottom of the screen:
Copyright 1998 Time Inc. New Media. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is
prohibited.
This means folks can't even post verbatim information from TIME on these boards.
Similar notices are posted on the AP wires and most magazine, newspaper and other news/information/literature Websites as
well.
And all these organizations have teams of hungry lawyers chomping at the bit to find copyright violations.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[Snow Pea] - 01:22pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#631 of 1135)
Well since the thread just disappeared, I will post this message here in reference to Sherries latest thread about the "Aging
Queen, Starr:"
As a gay poster, I haven't the slightest problem with Sherrie's thread topic.
Number One. It has been speculated for some time by many, myself included, that Ole Kenny would appear to be a member of
the "club." "Gaydar" is a fairly accurate gift most of us have.
Number Two. Gay men frequently refer to each other as "queens." No problem with that.
Number Three. It would appear that Mr. Starr is obsessed with the President's sexuality. With all the speculation about Clinton
on this board, it is perfectly reasonable to speculate about Mr. Starr, IMO.
Sorry I didn't get there sooner, Sherrie.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:28pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#632 of 1135)
Actually, snow pea, it's Mr. Clinton who's obsessed with sexuality. Starr is required to delve into Mr. Clinton's seamy sex life in
order to see if crimes have been committed.
Cat [Catrin] - 01:30pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#633 of 1135)
"Well since the thread just disappeared, I will post this message here in reference to Sherries latest thread about the "Aging
Queen, Starr:" (Snow)
Wait a minute...are you saying that Dave deleted the thread??? Are you sure it's not just a PF technical glitch?
I find it *extremely* difficult to believe that Dave would delete a thread saying that Starr is gay (which has long been obvious),
when the President has constantly and repeatedly been called a sexual predator and worse, and that has been allowed to
remain.
Dave?
[jollyollie] - 01:31pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#634 of 1135)
SP I'm certain that wasn't Sherrie's intent at all. She's no gay basher. Republican basher... fer sure!
[jollyollie] - 01:33pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#635 of 1135)
The thread IS gone Cat. He even said it would be.
"Deacon Blues" [knitknee] - 01:33pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#636 of 1135)
Maybe Sherrie ASKED Dave to delete it after she saw so many of us having so much FUN with it. Just guessing, of course.
[jollyollie] - 01:36pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#637 of 1135)
"Killjoy was here" LOL
[DaveGin] - 01:43pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#638 of 1135)
Nope. No glitch, Cat
I hit the switch, just as I said I would in the thread.
First, not all gays or those straights who support gays felt the thread was so harmless.
Secondly, I don't think it's a wise idea to determine someone's sexuality by what's "obvious." Such speculation has gotten more
than one man beaten up because he "looked" funny.
Thirdly, the thread had devolved into talk of clothes pins and such.
Let's be clear: I don't pull posts that say unkind things about Starr or Clinton. you all can think whatever you want about folks.
As public figures, Starr and Clinton are pretty much fair game for every cheap shot and speculative "facts" people can
manufacture.
But I reserve the right as host to remove posts and/or threads that are disruptive (which this one was not) or which, frankly,
just don't need to be there.
This thread was one of them. Your mileage - and that of others - may vary.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DevilsAdvocate] - 02:05pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#639 of 1135)
"SP I'm certain that wasn't Sherrie's intent at all. She's no gay basher. Republican basher... fer sure!"
It may not have been intentional, but that is exactly what she did. She made fun of someone who is (or appears to be) gay - the
same thing Republicans get accused of (remember "Barney Fag"?).
I'm sure when it became obvious to her what she had done, she backpeddled immediately. No one likes to be found out as a
hypocrit, let alone a bigot. ;-)
conrad [darnoc] - 02:07pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#640 of 1135)
To bad about the death of Sherries thread. There is a question HERE (#15) that some of her posts would have answered.
Once upon a time the comparisons of corruption between Clinton and Reagan, and the idea that Reagan's was worse, could have
been a joke. But with the stuff Sherrie posted the jokes have reached a much more bizarre level.
I think the defenders try to take the Reagan thing serious now.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 02:11pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#641 of 1135)
I thought the bad taste that oozed out of every pore of sherrie's thread on Starr would be obvious to everyone.
Silly me.
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 02:13pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#642 of
1135)
Womens little book of Instructions 1. Never do housework. No man ever made love to a woman because the
house was spotless. 2. Remember you are known by the idiot you accompany. 3. Don't
imagine you can change a man - unless he's in diapers. 4. What do you do if your boyfriend walks out? You shut the
door. 5. So many men - so many reasons not to sleep with any of them. 6. If they put a man on the moon,
they should be able to put them all there. 7. Tell him you're not his type - you have a pulse.
8. Never let your man's mind wander. It's too little to be let out alone. 9. The only reason men are on
this planet is that vibrators can't dance or buy drinks. 10. Never sleep with a man who's named his
penis. 11. Go for younger men. You might as well. They never mature anyway. 12. A man who can dress
himself without looking like Forrest Gump is unquestionably gay. 13. Men are all the same. They just
have different faces so you can tell them apart. 14. Definition of a bachelor: a man who has missed the
opportunity to make some woman miserable. 15. Women don't make fools of men. Most of them are the
do-it-yourself types. 16. The best way to get a man to do something is to suggest they are
too old for it. 17. Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener. 18. If you want a
committed man, look in a mental hospital. 19. The children of Israel wandered around the desert for 40 years.
Even in biblical times, men wouldn't ask for directions. 20. If he asks what sort of books you're
interested in, tell him checkbooks. 21. A man's idea of serious commitment is usually "oh alright, I'll
stay the night." 22. Women sleep with men, who if they were women, they wouldn't even
bother to have lunch with. 23. Remember a sense of humor does not mean that you tell him jokes,
it means you laugh at his. 24. If he asks you if you're faking it tell him no, you're just
practicing. 25. Sadly, all men are created equal. 26. When he asks you if he's your first, tell him "you may be,
you look familiar
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 02:47pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#643 of
1135)
AAUUGGHH!! It won't let me change it! This thing has GOT TO BE A WOMAN!!
[DevilsAdvocate] - 02:50pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#644 of 1135)
"Thirdly, the thread had devolved into talk of clothes pins and such. "
And now the entire Board has devolved into talk of clothespins, "Friday Fun",... and I still don't get the point of "The Homosexual
Plot to take over the world".
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 02:52pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#645 of
1135)
DA, all we are doing is having some fun. We are able to get away with some of the stereotype stuff, and everyone laughs. That's
all it is.
[DaveGin] - 02:55pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#646 of 1135)
I'm sure you don't get the point, DA.
Take Cooter's advice and lighten up a bit.
DaveGin
Cat [Catrin] - 02:56pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#647 of 1135)
"Hey, Cat....
Have you ever ridden on a cross-country bus in Mexico." (Dave)
"Dave: that image of the bus was so vivid, I actually got a sennse of dread over possibly having to use the onboard washroom!
*YUCK*" (Ollie)
Okay, you guys, you asked for it...the story of my bus ride:
We decided to take a bus trip to Belize City about 2 or 3 years ago. We had to first take a bus from Cancun to Chetumal (3 or 4
hours), and then another over the border to Belize and on into Belize City (another 3 or 4 hours).
At the bus station in Cancun there was a choice of classes - 1st, 2nd, 3rd and "premiere". Since premiere didn't leave till 2 hours
later, my husband bought tickets for 1st class. It was a mistake...no, I didn't have to hold someone's child on my lap...but there
was no clean place to put my feet down cuz the chickens were crapping all over the floor...
We got to Chetumal reasonably happy, however...and then the fun began.
I should have guessed something was not right when my husband returned from buying the tickets for the second bus; I asked
him what class he had bought, and he said there was only one...
It was a bus from the middle ages. At one time, it had had seats like school busses - padding covered with plastic. But this baby
was so old that the padding had ossified into golf balls. Uncomfortable as it was, I was thankful that it did, after all, have a
bathroom.
We got on the highway, and after about 15 minutes the driver turned off onto a narrow dirt road...we were really in the
boonies. He finally pulled up in front of a shack, grabbed a paper bag and got out. Somebody asked the driver's helper what was
up, and to our amazement he explained that the driver had to bring some Coca Cola to his wife. We sat and waited about 20
minutes, and he finally came back and we were off again.
Ten minutes later we veered off into the boonies again, and parked in front of another shack. The young driver's helper got
out (he didn't have a bag) and went into the house.
It was HOT...after about 15 minutes, passengers started to complain and the driver started blowing the horn, saying that the
helper and his wife were newlyweds (accompanied by leers and knowing grins). I thought he was joking...but when this guy
came running out of the house 30 minutes later, beet red and buckling his belt...well, I was ASTOUNDED!!!!!! But that ain't all...
We were seated about in the middle of the bus, and as time passed, many people passed us on the way to the bathroom.
Eventually I went, too...it wasn't too bad...better than I had expected, anyway. Then a huge, fat, ugly, dirty man went.
A word here about my husband...he had a very dry sense of humor...and at times he didn't realize how loudly he was talking...so,
when a few minutes had passed and this absolutely unbelievable stench began to emanate from the bathroom (the fat man was
still in there)...and everybody was turning around in their seats and covering their noses with their hands...my husband sez,
"Jesus, that man is dead in there!".
Everybody turned around and stared...I was mortified - everybody heard him! I slid down in the seat, trying to hide.
The stench increased...by this time, it was almost visable in the air, people were choking, eyes watering...I had taken a towel
out of my bag and was holding it over my face...and still gagging.
At this point, traveling on a narrow, deserted road, we saw a man ahead in the distance, standing beside the road with a giant
can beside him. I didn't think anything of it, until the driver stopped...it was gas! This is the way they refill the tank!
So the bus is stopped, and the stench is MUCH worse...the fat man is STILL in there. Once again bigmouth starts: "I TOLD you that
the man died in there..or else, something crawled up his butt and died!". A few people started to laugh...the more I implored him
to shut up, the more he kept it up! I wanted the earth to open up and swallow me.
Then the driver announced that he had discovered the problem: the sewage tank under the bus overflowed and backed up...so
my husband sez, "Omigawd! That poor man has drowned!". I was relieved when the man finally returned, so he would shut up.
We continued...the trip took about 6 hours. I was never so glad to get anywhere in my life.
When it was time to return, I flatly refused to take any busses...my husband said there were no flights...I said that's okay, I'll
just spend the rest of my life in Belize. So he chartered a plane.
We went in chickenshit...
We returned in style...
Go figure.
;-D
Laid back, beer drinking, guitar picking, pork eating DUDE! [CooterBrown] - 03:02pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#648 of
1135)
ROFLMAO CAT!!!!
Hey guys....here's why we're supposed to lower the seat.
A young Jewish couple had only recently set up housekeeping when an unfortunate incident occurred. Early one
morning, the wife, drowsy from bed, went to the toilet for the morning's relief, and neglected to notice that the seat was
up. When she sat, she kept going! She was just the right size and shape so that she became jammed into the toilet past
her waist with her legs sticking straight up in front of her. She cried for her husband, who rushed in, and for the next hour
tried desperately to extricate her. In this process they removed her sleeping gown, but this only left her naked and
still stuck, with a particular part of her anatomy prominently visible between her splayed legs. Finally, the couple
resolved to call a plumber, despite the embarrassing nature of their problem. When the plumber arrived, the young
man let him in, but as they were walking to the bathroom, the young man realized that his wife was exposed in a very
compromising and humiliating way. Thinking fast, he ran ahead of the plumber and placed the first thing he could
think of, his yamulka skull cap, over his wife's exposed privates. The plumber walked into the bathroom, took one long
look, and commented: "Well, I think I can save your wife, buddy, but the Rabbi's a goner."
[DaveGin] - 03:04pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#649 of 1135)
Wow, Cat.
Your bus had a bathroom?
DaveGin
Cat [Catrin] - 03:05pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#650 of 1135)
"Thirdly, the thread had devolved into talk of clothes pins and such. " (Dave)
It didn't "devolve into talk of clothes pins"; it was Starr's mother, in the article, who said Starr played with clothes pins instead
of going outside to play with the other kids.
"Let's be clear: I don't pull posts that say unkind things about Starr or Clinton. you all can think whatever you want about folks.
As public figures, Starr and Clinton are pretty much fair game for every cheap shot and speculative "facts" people can
manufacture. But I reserve the right as host to remove posts and/or threads that are disruptive (which this one was not) or
which, frankly, just don't need to be there. "
Huh? So you removed it just because "it didn't need to be there"?
Your call, Dave, of course.
But you're wrong this time.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 03:25pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#651 of 1135)
Cat: In your eagerness to defame Starr, you can't see that sherrie's thread crossed the line into nastiness and bad taste.
Trust me, it did.
BTW, I enjoyed your bus story.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 03:26pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#652 of 1135)
Well, if having my thread pulled is the worst thing that happens to me today, I have had a good day.
Thanks, Snow, since I am the Francesca Fag Hag of the western world I didn't think I would offend any of my friends, nice to
know I was right.
Cat [Catrin] - 03:41pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#653 of 1135)
"...you can't see that sherrie's thread crossed the line into nastiness and bad taste." (GW)
Sure I can; but since when has bad taste been an issue around here?
Look at this:
Topic: Why Sweet William is a Security Risk!
"The sex-starved Slick Willy wanted to outdo JFK, so when Hillary was off on one of her junkets, Slick would sneak out of the
White House for a middle of the night sexcapade at the Marriott in Virginia. "
And this:
Topic: IS ATTACKING SEXUAL SIN GOOD POLITICS?
"... Ho-o-o-omal, Ho-o-o-omal, Ho-o-o-,alsexuals
Adultery, and Fornication
Ho-o-o-omal, Ho-o-o-omal, Ho-o-o-,alsexuals
And Adulterous Fornica-a-ators..."
And there have been many others, as you know.
I still cannot understand how Sherrie's thread was any worse...deleting it is inconsistent and it just doesn't make sense to me.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 03:47pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#654 of 1135)
My father was a sensitive boy who made pipe-cleaner animals and read poetry with his male friends instead of doing more
typically masculine activities, and he is not the least bit homosexual. I don't think Sherrie was gay bashing as much as relying
on gender stereotypes to pander to certain conservatives' heterosexist attitudes. IMO, her thread was an act of desperation.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 11:59am Aug 14, 1998 EST (#655 of 1135)
"Since when has bad taste been an issue around here?" --Cat
Well, kiddo, you got me there.
Cat [Catrin] - 03:55pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#656 of 1135)
;-D
[jollyollie] - 04:02pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#657 of 1135)
Cat, I always notice when someone does post 666. You've gotten two lately! You're doing that on purpose! Great bus story BTW.
Bus Stories: I was designated "kick the overtired driver when he falls asleep while driving" guy on a 1300 km overnight
military bus ride across western Canada 25 years ago.
General Cynic [Lanoril] - 04:06pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#658 of 1135)
What was "Sherrie's" thread?
[jollyollie] - 04:13pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#659 of 1135)
In the Closet Independant Councils or something...
[Snow Pea] - 04:20pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#660 of 1135)
Sherrie "panders" to conservatives???!!!! I don't think so.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:22pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#661 of 1135)
sherrie babe: C'mon and pander to me.
And I'll pander back.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 04:23pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#662 of 1135)
GW...
You pander. You brought her.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 04:25pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#663 of 1135)
Snow Pea - She was pandering to conservative heterosexism.
[Snow Pea] - 04:36pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#664 of 1135)
Okay. But an act of desperation? I'm just not sure where you are coming from Nigel.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 04:41pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#665 of 1135)
Where I'm coming from: if it were my dad who had been appointed to the unfortunate job of having to investigate the POTUS,
people like Sherrie would look at his childhood and try to label him a fag instead of dealing with the issues. That thread was
pure airheaded ditziness.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:44pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#666 of 1135)
snow pea: This is the wrong place to be discussing this (this is Dave's thread, after all, not one of our taffy pulls), but the whole
business of defaming Starr is an act of desperation, motivated by a desire to save Bill Clinton's sorry butt.
Okay, Dave, no more of that partisan stuff here. I promise.
[Snow Pea] - 04:56pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#667 of 1135)
I think you are wrong Nigel. There has been plenty of "dealing with the issues" when it comes to discussion of Starr. There has
also been a good deal of speculation on the sexual habits of the President. It is only fair that the grand inquisitor be held up to
the same kind of speculation, IMO.
GW, thanks for your concern.
[masontwo] - 05:03pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#668 of 1135)
Protecting Digital Copyrights..NY TIMES editorial today.. timely, DaveLeMore if you've not seen it
"Traditional copyright concepts that have served this nation well for centuries should guide the debate on copyright in the
digital universe......
.... It specifically allows the "fair use" of copyrighted materials for commentary, criticism, teaching, news reporting,
scholarship and research under certain circumstances without permission from the copyright owner....... "
(Yesterday I sent e-mail to Salon re the Broder and Conason columns which had been lifted within hours in toto; today a long
reply was received from Salon's editor discussing the issue and the ongoing difficulties they are having with FR)
[spagz] - 05:06pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#669 of 1135)
Cat FUNNNNNNNNNY!spagz
Cat [Catrin] - 05:47pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#670 of 1135)
"Cat, I always notice when someone does post 666. You've gotten two lately! You're doing that on purpose!" (Ollie)
No...but now that you mention it, triple sixes are supposed to be the sign of the devil...
My daughter was born on 6/6/66...
Be carrrrrrefullllll.....
G*
[masontwo] - 05:51pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#671 of 1135)
Hank...I was going to respond about the "best" literature list, and was trying to get to National Public Radio online to look up the
names of the judges, who are coming in for a lot of criticism..no scifi is but one crticism......anyhow I typed in <npr.com>
thinking this was the URL, and the following came on screen. I am amazed....guess I had it wrong, but What is this AUCTION
going on for domain names...please...someone let me know...
For 3 thousand dollars I can register myself as npr.com? Or masontwo.com? Or Babette9.com?
iDomain.com Auctions
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Cat [Catrin] - 05:51pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#672 of 1135)
"if it were my dad who had been appointed to the unfortunate job of having to investigate the POTUS, people like Sherrie would
look at his childhood and try to label him a fag instead of dealing with the issues. " (Nigel)
You obviously missed the point, Nigel. No, if your dad or anyone else was appointed to the job and he did just that - the job - it
would be a different story. But Starr is personally obsessed, which creates a legitimate question of "why" - since it's just a job,
and not supposed to affect him emotionally.
I don't think Sherrie was labeling him to avoid dealing with the issues; I think Starr's sexual orientation is a very likely
explanation for his behavior...and it is very logical that it IS the issue.
Tell me this: do you think your dad would become so obsessed that he would hire public relations handlers for himself?
[jollyollie] - 05:57pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#673 of 1135)
6/6/66.... I was finishing up Grade 6 in Room 26.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 06:11pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#674 of 1135)
Tell me this: do you think your dad would become so obsessed that he would hire public relations handlers for
himself?
If my dad were faced with the kind of sleaze emanating from the Clinton spin machine he probably would.
[bringar] - 08:42pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#675 of 1135)
July 23rd news article on Mike's injuries
A well-known forest activist fell 30 feet from a tree he climbed early Wednesday at a downtown development, and was in
serious condition with a head injury, two broken wrists and an injured elbow.
A friend claims the accident occurred after security guards intervened by attaching protester Michael McCarthy's safety
harness ropes to a nearby fence.
Dan Tucci, developer of the $5 million expansion of the Fifth Street Public Market, said McCarthy's injury was unfortunate, but
evidently resulted from his decision to trespass. Security guards told police that McCarthy removed his climbing harness
before the fall.
McCarthy, 44, was in the intensive care unit at Sacred Heart Medical Center. He originally was listed in critical condition, but
was upgraded later in the day.
[bringar] - 08:49pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#676 of 1135)
me
July 24th news article on Ferret Mike's injuries
Mike McCarthy, the protester who fell out of a tree in downtown Eugene two days ago, remained in serious condition Thursday
at Sacred Heart Medical Center.
But friends and supporters said McCarthy, who suffered a fractured skull and broke both his wrists, was talking with family
members who visited him in the hospital's intensive care unit.
"He's apparently lucid and talking," said Carol Berg, a civic activist who spoke with McCarthy's relatives, hospital doctors and
nurses on Thursday. "What I was told is, he's going to be OK but it will take a long time to recuperate."
dunite [babblingbrook] - 09:21pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#677 of 1135)
Does this article refer to Ferret Mike Hobb?
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 09:28pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#678 of 1135)
Does this article refer to Ferret Mike Hobb?
Bingo! You just jogged my memory. Yes, the article is about Ferret Mike.
SGTTAG [SGTTAG] - 09:29pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#679 of 1135)
Yes Dunite and he is in serious condition.
Someone needs to start a thread to keep a vigil and let people know how he is doing, because he is liked by everyone here!
OH! MY! I can't beleive it!
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 09:52pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#680 of 1135)
I just called him at the hospital and started a thread.
LOLOLOL he says his new motto is going to be "gravity sucks!"
[DaveGin] - 09:56pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#681 of 1135)
Folks, I'm going to do something a little different
Normally, when someone posts copyrighted material, I just delete it - for reasons already expressed at length in this thread
earlier.
But since this story involves someone we all know, someone we've talked with and argued with, I'm going to edit Bringer's
initial posts, leaving just the essential information.
I'll leave the URL's Bringer provided for further details.
Anyone who wants to create a thread on Mike's situation is welcome to do so. But please, post no copyrighted info. That includes
photos.
And let's all say a prayer for Mike's recovery.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
dunite [babblingbrook] - 11:32pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#682 of 1135)
Ray There's a lot going on that's pretty sad, I know.........but I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday......sorry I don't know how to
do gifs yet....so it's not fancy...
[masontwo] - 11:57pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#683 of 1135)
For those of you who appreciated the book list that came out this week of 100 novel originally written in the English language
there have been many objections by literary people...particularly for being heavily male point of view, an awful lot of
post-WWII authors..Catch 22/Deliverance types..and no scifi..oh lots of criticism.....The First on the List, Ulysses....Nobody can
get through!!
For those who filed the list and are going to start in making a dent in the unread books this summer, I give you....
have fun.....
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 11:57pm Jul 24, 1998 EST (#684 of 1135)
Happy Birthday, Baybee. ***SMOOCH!!!***
[spagz] - 12:04am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#685 of 1135)
M2 BAAAY OOOOOOO WOLF! Does that strike any cords?spagz BTW,I always wanted to tell my old algebra teacher "SEE, MS Welch,I
told you I would never need algebra!" BUT,she died.
Apart from THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, did you like the play? [SherrieG] - 02:37am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#686 of 1135)
There was a great loss today in the entertainment world. The man who wrote the song "Hokey Pokey" has passed away. To make
matters worse, they had trouble keeping his body in the casket. They'd put his left leg in and....., well, you know the rest.
[Rich Pasma] - 06:36am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#687 of 1135)
Mason,
I think it was me rather than Hank that complained about the lack of science fiction. However, I erred in stating that Kurt
Vonegut was not on the list. Going through some of my earlier newspapers, I found his book "Slaughter House Five," was at No.
18. I cannot begin to tell you how much I hate making a mistake such as this.
The LA Times in their Life and Style section has run a two part series that appeared this past Thursday and Friday. This series
indicated that a number of people were upset with this list. Even being the cultural barbarian that I am this did not come as
any surprise.
The Times asked its readers to give their reaction to this list. The books left off the list that most people complained about were:
"To Kill a Mocking Bird;" "Gone with the Wind;" and "The Fountainhead." Interestingly, all these authors were women.
Also missing from this list were any African American authors. It was also noted that not one single novel by a known gay
novelist writing about the gay experience was listed. From what I could see the list of books presented hardly seemed to have a
right wing bias, so I fail to understand how these two things could have happened.
A letter from one of the readers indicated that the Random House organization that was responsible for producing this list,
selected 59 novels, that were published by their own company. Please remember this was a published letter and was not part of
a reported article.
For the most part very few people seemed to reflect my taste in novels. My attitude is so what. I do not consider myself to be any
better or worse than anyone else, I am just who I am. Another way of stating this is, "One man's meat is another's poison".
People that refuse to acknowledge this because it gives them a sense of power are not going to get any respect from me.
Cat,
I found your experience about your bus ride and the way you described it to be quite amusing. The most common destination of
international flights from LA is to Mexico. The planes flying these routes are subject to FAA regulations. At times I have
thought about what would happen it a connecting flight within Mexico to get to the destination were required. Would the same
FAA regulations apply to the plane flying that flight? I suspect they would.
If the Mexican Airlines are run anything like their bus lines, it sounds to me you were lucky to have been forced to take the
charter flight you took. I can only imagine what your reaction would have been if your husband had been able to get a
domestic flight and came back with, "I have good news and bad news. The good news is I was able to get seats on a flight back
home, the bad news is it does not have a class."
RP
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
PS Mason, thanks for the great cartoon.
Cat [Catrin] - 09:36am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#688 of 1135)
"The planes flying these routes are subject to FAA regulations. At times I have thought about what would happen it a
connecting flight within Mexico to get to the destination were required. Would the same FAA regulations apply to the plane
flying that flight? I suspect they would. " (Rich)
Dunno...but it's an interesting question. I know two guys who are air traffic controllers and I'll ask when I see them next
weekend.
"If the Mexican Airlines are run anything like their bus lines, it sounds to me you were lucky to have been forced to take the
charter flight you took. "
Fortunately that's not the case. There's Mexicana and Aeromexico (same company, different routes) and Taesa. The former is
about the same as the airlines in the States and the latter is better. Taesa is owned by its employees and their service is excellent
- and so is the food!
dunite [babblingbrook] - 10:26am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#689 of 1135)
When I lived & worked in Mexico, there was an airline called TACA...which we translated as :Tenemos Accidentes Cada Ano!!
Used to fly it several times a month between the capitol & Acapulco....
Another transportation story....Bus drivers in the capitol didn't wear uniforms then. The reason? So they could blend in with
bystanders after the accident!
Cat [Catrin] - 10:43am Jul 25, 1998 EST (#690 of 1135)
"When I lived & worked in Mexico, there was an airline called TACA...which we translated as :Tenemos Accidentes Cada Ano!!
Used to fly it several times a month between the capitol & Acapulco...." (Dunite)
Yes...but TACA is not a Mexican airline...it's from El Salvador and Honduras. They still have routes in Mexico, however.
My Tippy Toes fit me to a "T" [TireBiter] - 12:26pm Jul 25, 1998 EST (#691 of 1135)
Sherrie -
Add this one to your list of "surefire ways to soft-boil a hard-on", courtesy Make Me Laugh:
Is everything a joke with you?
[masontwo] - 02:46pm Jul 25, 1998 EST (#692 of 1135)
Robert Blake's winning entry in this year's Jack Daniels Faux Faulkner contest:
Knowing knows before hearing hears, recollection exudes from the congealed entanglement, emasculate in the indomitable
odor of mansweat; remembering before knowing: hands splayed on bended knees, semicrouched in rapt immobility,
forwardleaning into the ponderous nocturnal autumn air, in furious anticipation of arrested inertia, incipient savagery,
luminous in the brooding dusk-dark; forwardmoving preemptorily with the sound, an inviolate sonorous command, refusing
abnegation, compelling allegiance, doomed in the primordial obdurate masculinity; receiving the thrusted leather oblong
not-trophy, neither chalice, but rather palpable symbol of insatiable honor, impregnable, invincible but ephemeral; viscera
thrusted, arms engulfing as a lover's embrace, but futile; forwardmoving with escalating fury inexorably toward the
armor-clad foe, nonapparitional, voracious, implacable, intractable, incorrigible and girded for the assault in resplendent
triumph; arrested in stark, abrupt and utter abrogation of motion, profound dissolution, sudden and complete; and now cohered
with the hard, immutable earth; with the penetrant whistling infiltrating through the laboriously unlimbering extrication of
virile man-flesh to the abject fury of disembodied surrender; and then, with resolute, authoritative finality, the hearing:
``second down.''
[bringar] - 05:48pm Jul 25, 1998 EST (#693 of 1135)
as i promised, : mike, this pic appeared with the previous articles, but was taken last year at another urban deforestation
action:)
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich"...Cat [Catrin] - 07:01pm Jul 25, 1998 EST (#694 of 1135)
Bringar: The pix didn't show up...
Ray: Guests who kill talk show hosts-On the last Geraldo. [wardaddy] - 07:12pm Jul 25, 1998 EST (#695 of 1135)
bringar
Thanks
(Have you posted that pic on Mike's thread?)
[Rich Pasma] - 07:42am Jul 26, 1998 EST (#696 of 1135)
Cat,
I was making an effort at humor, more than a quest for information; it appears that my effort at humor was a flop.
There is somewhat of a stereotype about corruption in Latin American Countries, that is just that. The classic example being:
getting pulled over by a police officer and being told, "If you want to pay cash now it will be 25 American dollars, if you want to
go to court and put up with the hassle, it will be 50 dollars."
In the early 1980's I remember the President of Mexico getting in trouble for having used government money for building a
condominium for himself in San Diego. At the time it was reported, the article I read in the Christian Science Monitor (Not at all
a religious newspaper) that the President thought he could get away with this because of the rampant corruption that existed
in the Mexican Government. This was the gist of the article, at any rate. The number of possible translations makes following
this impossible.
Cat, I would not have even a one percent of the knowledge that you do of the government down there given your interest in
politics and where you live. It would be suspected that there have been considerable changes within that government in the
last 15 or 20 years.
Based upon the comments you have made, it seems that you have a perception that the safety of Mexican Airlines compares
with the US airlines. If there were to be a noticeable difference it is expected that, it would be something you would have seen
in your local news.
From your and my standpoint the more interesting question would be how the safety records between the airlines operating in
Mexico compare with those operating in the US. I suspect that your friends in the FAA would be able to supply this information.
Although this appears to be social area, I will put a little bit of a political angle on this post. The two things that politics and
airline safety have in common is, it what you cannot see that is most important.
What you can not see with airline safety are: maintenance and inspection schedules; the competence of the people responsible
for the former two items; payload information (is the plane you are on overweight for instance); the quality of the fuel being
used; and a zillion other things. The level of quality control used in producing and tracking airframes' would be just one more
item that could be added to this list of items. For the record, I am not an expert in this area anymore than being an expert about
computer software.
With politics what cannot be seen is a little more simple, the power of money. In simple terms power comes from the control of
information, and information like an onion has many layers. The first layer would be legislation passed. The second would be
the public stand that politicians take on a particular item. This can be a little fuzzy as the backroom information regarding vote
trades, and how many of the amendments are made to many bills is rarely seen. It seems at times that the politicians themselves
do not understand what they are voting upon.
As I put a page limit upon myself I am going to stop here. Not wanting to be disruptive here, if there is anything that has put a
fire under you here, please direct it towards the appropriate thread, or create a new one.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Cat [Catrin] - 12:40pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#697 of 1135)
Rich,
What on earth are you talking about?
C:\DOS C:\DOS\RUN RUN\DOS\RUN [SherrieG] - 04:09pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#698 of 1135)
I don't think he knows, either, Catrinka.
C:\DOS C:\DOS\RUN RUN\DOS\RUN [SherrieG] - 04:17pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#699 of 1135)
A Messy Kitchen Is A Happy Kitchen And This Kitchen Is Delirious
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes
A Husband Is Someone Who Takes Out The Trash And Gives The Impression He Just Cleaned The Whole House
If we are what we eat, then I'm easy, fast, and cheap.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.
Thou shalt not weigh more than thy refrigerator.
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused.
A Clean House Is A Sign Of A Misspent Life
Help Keep the Kitchen Clean - Eat Out
Housework Done Properly Can Kill You
Countless Numbers Of People Have Eaten In This Kitchen and Gone On To Lead Normal Lives
My next house will have no kitchen --- just vending machines
[masontwo] - 04:44pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#700 of 1135)
Dave...what is the ad at the top of the screen, apparently a lottery of some sort sponsored by Borders and Gap among others,
which keeps flashing,
"No lame prizes, play now to win"
No lame prizes?
What agency sold this unfortunate concept to their clients and to Time PF?
[DaveGin] - 05:44pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#701 of 1135)
Mason, I have no idea.
Feel free to register your objections with Gap, Borders AND Pathfinder.
And if you don't like the blinking ads with all the bells and whistles, by all means , let the advertisers know that too.
DaveGin
C:\DOS C:\DOS\RUN RUN\DOS\RUN [SherrieG] - 08:36pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#702 of 1135)
What the language in the "Personal" Ads REALLY means.
FIRST THE WOMEN
40-ish.................. 48
Adventurer.............. Has had more partners than you ever will
Athletic................ Flat-chested
Average looking......... A Real Pooch
Beautiful............... Pathological liar
Contagious Smile........ Bring your penicillin
Educated................ College dropout
Emotionally Secure...... Medicated
Feminist................ Fat; ball buster
Free spirit............. Substance user
Friendship first........ Trying to live down reputation as slut
Fun..................... Annoying
Gentle.................. Comatose
Good Listener........... Borderline Autistic
New-Age................. All body hair, all the time
Old-fashioned........... Lights out, missionary position only
Open-minded............. Desperate
Outgoing................ Loud
Passionate.............. Loud
Poet.................... Depressive Schizophrenic
Professional............ Real Feminazi
Redhead................. Shops the Clairol section
Reubenesque............. Haven't missed a meal yet
Romantic................ Looks better by candle light
Voluptuous.............. Huge Bozangas supported by a keg
Weight proportional to height.........Janet Reno look alike
Wants Soulmate.......... One step away from stalking
Widow................... Done poisoned me a rat's ass
Young at heart.......... Tattooed and Toothless
THE MALE SIDE OF THE LIST
40-ish.................. 52 and looking for 25-yr-old
Athletic................ Sits on the couch and watches ESPN
Average looking......... Unusual hair growth on ears, nose, & back
Educated................ Will always treat you like an idiot
Free Spirit............. Sleeps with your sister and warms gerbils
Friendship first........ As long as friendship involves nudity
Fun..................... Good with a remote and a six pack
Good looking............ Wears bifocals
Honest.................. Pathological Liar
Huggable................ Rush Limbaugh look alike
Like to cuddle.......... Insecure, overly dependent
Mature.................. Until you get to know him
Open-minded............. Wants to sleep with your sister but she's not interested
Physically fit.......... I spend a lot of time in front of mirror admiring myself
Poet.................... Has written on a bathroom stall
Spiritual............... Jim Beam, Johnny Walker, Myers and O.J.
Stable.................. Occasional stalker, but never arrested
Thoughtful.............. Says "Please" when demanding a beer
[jcastro] - 09:06pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#703 of 1135)
Mason, Dave's right. Funny, though, there is no ad at the top of the message boards tonight. I should be worried, since those ads
help pay for these boards. But it is kind of peaceful...
Re bells and whistles, we (Time Inc New Media) are limiting the complexity of the ads that run on these pages so that they will
not slow down your access. Hope this is helping. Hey, ever since Dave got down in the basement with the pick-ax and started
archiving the oldies but goodies, it seems like the boards are faster than ever. Think so?
Janice
C:\WINDOWS\Drive Space\Drive\Format [SGTTAG] - 09:11pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#704 of 1135)
Hey JCastro!
"Re bells and whistles, we (Time Inc New Media) are limiting the complexity of the ads that run on these pages so that they will
not slow down your access."
Man! Will wonders ever cease?
[DaveGin] - 11:44pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#705 of 1135)
BTW Janice, I think we have rats in the basement
And we need a new ax. Man, those archives are SOLID.
DaveGin
[jollyollie] - 11:47pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#706 of 1135)
Dave, I don't want to be a problem, but I do believe impersonating a peace officer is a crime in the USA. And frankly, while it
was none of my business, after the death of those two Capitol Police, I'm offended that it's happening here.
"Be kind to your children - they will select your nursing home." - Grandma Yetta [SherrieG] - 11:51pm Jul 26,
1998 EST (#707 of 1135)
mumble mumble since when have you let THAT stop you mumble mumble.
However, the Miami thing is absolutely priceless and you are once again on my list of friends for life.
[jollyollie] - 11:55pm Jul 26, 1998 EST (#708 of 1135)
Well my lil red devil .... I've ALWAYS remained a devil's advocate!
"Be kind to your children - they will select your nursing home." - Grandma Yetta [SherrieG] - 11:57pm Jul 26,
1998 EST (#709 of 1135)
Darlin, I have tried and tried to write you, my address on you must be off, willya write me? Cinymngirl@writeme.com and I'll
give ya the real one.
Libby [mbette] - 12:02am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#710 of 1135)
The boards ARE faster tonight. Thanks DAVE! Hope the rats weren't carrying the plague or anything.
And thank you, Pathfinder, for getting rid of that one particularly annoying ad (that Buick thingy).
Jim, who's impersonating a police officer?
[jollyollie] - 12:04am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#711 of 1135)
Subpoena Showdown Thread.
[spagz] - 12:12am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#712 of 1135)
JOLLy--BIZZARO has left the building! Wonder why?BTW Sherrie, I have the info on Scaife you asked for. Where do you want
me to post it?spagz
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 12:17am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#713 of 1135)
Spazz, I think it might provide a nice counterpoint on the "Clinton is abusing his powers" thread.
Or, you could start a new Thread. "Richard Scaife - The Shadow IC"
[spagz] - 12:30am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#714 of 1135)
Will do.MONDAY Right now I am ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!spagz
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:18am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#715 of 1135)
Heat wave
Dave: Can you provide an update on the heat situation in Texas? I've been reading that even at night the temperature doesn't
get below 80. It sounds really bad.
Sympathies to all in Texas who are going through this terrible heat wave.
Evolve, damn you, evolve!! [FAUFORDE] - 10:24am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#716 of 1135)
That must be awful, even for life long residents. The few times I've been to Texas were always in the Summer and it was always
WAY TOO HOT. I can't imagine it for this many days. I think of my 87 year old Grampa who can't take the humidity of a Michigan
Summer & than think of those poor elderly people in Texas with no ac.
[DaveGin] - 11:33am Jul 27, 1998 EST (#717 of 1135)
Folks, the heat has been brutal
Most of the state has had temprature highs in excess of 100 degrees for more than three weeks straight.
Some parts of the state haven't seen rain since March.
There have been something like 70 deaths in the state directly attributable to the heat -- about 50 of those being folks who
crossed the border illegally and tried to walk across the South Texas brushland.
It's hard country in good weather. Without water, in 108-degree heat and on foot, it's murderous.
DaveGin
Cat [Catrin] - 12:41pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#718 of 1135)
Dave,
You are being paged on the Subpoena thread.
Would you do us a favor and go and answer the disruption, so we can continue a sane conversation?
Thanks.
'-D
[masontwo] - 09:29pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#719 of 1135)
DaveGin, Dave Lemore....aren't you both proud? Here one is on a big news nite handling one's own traffic AND Salon's spillover,
and things are going swimmingly.
One applauds, one applauds.
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 09:39pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#720 of 1135)
We? Is Mason now a sysop?
[masontwo] - 09:58pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#721 of 1135)
One wonders if one has improved one's post.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:07pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#722 of 1135)
One does, does one?
[cmkramer] - 10:16pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#723 of 1135)
Dave, here's a journalistic style question. I've noticed that whenever there is bad news for the White House, no matter if it is
trivial or serious, the reporter always refers to it as "embarrassing". Is there some reason for that? I can see them doing that
on some occasions, but most of the time I think other words would be more appropriate. Maybe they ought to invest in a
thesaurus.
"Aspire to decency; practice civility" [RiteCon] - 10:17pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#724 of 1135)
All this talk of bus trips reminded me of the time I went on a trip thru the Andes Moutains in Peru.
The road was so narrow that on Monday the buses went north and Tuesday thay went south. Problem was you could never be
sure of the other bus had completed the trip!
When the driver took his hands off the wheel to make the sign of the cross...I knew we were in trouble.
The aisle was full of chickens and a pig!!!
The windows were all gone and the dust on the road was a foot deep! We could slap our heads and a cloud of dust would rise that
would make Pigpen proud!
My friend travelling with me was appauled that there were no guard rails on the edge of the road!!!! LOL! Silly girl! The drop
was only 300 hundred feet straight into a roaring river!
Meanwhile the native children this far into the mountains had never seen blond hair . Since I had long blond hair they had to
touch it and stroke it saying "Ora!" during the entire 5 hour trip!
The trip was a nightmare! And the worst part was....I had to do it again to get home!!!!
[masontwo] - 11:00pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#725 of 1135)
Didn't you think to get a haircut for the return trip?
If not, why not?
[jcastro] - 11:03pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#726 of 1135)
Dave's the Man. Dave's my hero. He somehow manages to cover all the contentious ground, and still turn up here and there
with a friendly word, a thoughtful observation, and his sense of humor intact. Yo Dave!
And Mason, much as we love him, is not at this point employed by the Mother Ship.
But he can help. You all do, just being a responsible community and keeping things squared away in your own place here.
Thank you all.
Janice
"Aspire to decency; practice civility" [RiteCon] - 11:14pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#727 of 1135)
Actually...I cut my hair and SOLD it!!!! LOL! However, short blond hair was still an attraction. Not to mention that the tallest man
was 5 foot. I'm 5'8"! A giant to them! And they loved to look at my blue green eyes with their all brown eyes!
[spagz] - 02:34am Jul 28, 1998 EST (#728 of 1135)
Dave-SS-Bill is looking for you on the subp. thrd.
[Rich Pasma] - 07:28am Jul 28, 1998 EST (#729 of 1135)
Dave,
The area I live in is always hot during the summer; however, it does not compare with the problems you have been having. My
heart goes out to you and everyone else that lives in that area.
Although I have sent you a few e-mail messages, I think that you are doing a great job here. Not being terribly active here, I
seem to have problems with the few people that I deal with.
Cat and Sherrie,
I am sorry to hear that you did not feel that I knew what I was talking about in my last post here. In the future if you have a
problem with one of my posts, it would be appreciated if you would be more specific in the comments you make. In my opinion
generalizations lead to many of the problems not only on this board but elsewhere. For the most part both of you seem to be
very responsible in this regard. Please do not feel that I do not mistakes around here, I do, and at a much higher rate than
either of you.
It seemed that you had more of a problem with the logic rather than with an understanding about what I posted. As far as
writing and readability goes I had an interesting experience. One of my office workers ask me to write a short report for him.
In doing this I wrote a sentence that ran somewhere around 15 lines.
Not believing this was possible I ran it by two proofreaders. Both of these proofreaders indicated that it was both grammatically
correct and understandable. Not being happy with this I showed the report to my office worker and explained that there would
not be a problem busting the sentence into three or four shorter ones. He insisted that it was just fine. It was only as kind of a
joke I let the report go out with this monster sentence.
In this particular case the client came to our office to pick up this report. In personally delivering the report to the client, I
found that he was stutterer. Opps. In having dealt with hundreds of clients, this was the only one that I encountered that was a
stutterer. How do things such as this happen?
When it comes to making mistakes, one of my other classic ones follows. In a local newspaper report, I read about how a couple
had been fined a thousand dollar a tree for cutting down 30 trees on the land that they were planning to build a house upon.
The day after this article appeared, a women showed up in my office with plans for a house that was located in this area. The
first thing I said when I saw where the project was located was, "Do you want to sell me any firewood?" It turned out as you
might guess, that she was the subject of the article I had read. Opps again. In this particular case, there was not a hostile
reaction. I was given the offer to go take whatever firewood I wanted for free.
To All,
At times I suspect that I rub some people the wrong way. This is bound to happen frequently on a board such as this. While it
may not appear to be the case at times, recently I have been making an effort to just get along. Let me close with the following
statement, I have no problem with people challenging what I present here as long as they are specific. What we have here is
supposed to be a debate, let this be the game.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 07:33am Jul 28, 1998 EST (#730 of 1135)
Rite is 5'8" and blonde? WooooHoooo!! But.....she's married! :-(
Are you happy now Grandma? [Richos] - 08:19am Jul 28, 1998 EST (#731 of 1135)
Rich, what are you worried about upsetting Sherrie for? Enjoy it.
[DevilsAdvocate] - 12:57pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#732 of 1135)
Dave, would you please delete the new "Topic: Homosexuals and Christians..." thread? It seems johnrush thought it was a private
joke between him and his friends that they jump on and make it something silly.
Possible options would be to achrive the original so that I could begin anew (perhaps even creating a new thesis) or just leave
the old one.
The upstarts are continuing to distract from intelligent discussions on the origianl thread, including johnrush's: "johnrush -
08:18pm Jul 27, 1998 EST (#1070 of 1074)
(Comment) Christians, nowadays, are the most pathetic, hypocritical, insensitive, superstitious morons on the face of the earth.
They preach one thing, and practice another. The Christian Right is NEITHER ! ! ! ! !" I don't remember ever starting anything
with him, but if he'd like to continue it, he should do so in a different venue.
Thanks.
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 01:56pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#733 of 1135)
FINALLY, AN EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!
God created woman, and she had 3 breasts.
He said to the woman, "Is there anything on you that you'd like to change?"
She said, "Yes. Could you get rid of this middle breast?"
God snapped his fingers and it was done. She exclaimed, holding the third breast in her hand, "What am I going to do with this
useless boob?"
And God created man.
[spagz] - 02:38pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#734 of 1135)
USELESS BOOB HERE-spagz ROTFLMAO!!!
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 03:46pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#735 of 1135)
ON POETIC LOVE: When you're swimmin' in the creek, And an eel bites your cheek, That's a moray. -- Fabulous Furry Freak
Brothers
ON MARTIAL ARTS AND METAPHYSICS: Deja Fu: The feeling that somehow, somewhere, you've been kicked in the head like this
before.
ON HUMILITY: To err is human, to moo bovine.
ON DEEP THOUGHTS: A day without sunshine is like night.
ON MATHEMATICAL TRANSFORMS: A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform.
ON YOUTH: Some people say that I must be a horrible person, but that's not true. I have the heart of a young boy. In a jar. On my
desk. -- Steven King, 3/8/90
ON PROBLEM SOLVING: When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail. -- Abraham Maslow
ON MATERIALISM: He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless still dead.
ON RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: Photons have mass? I didn't know they were Catholic.
ON INFINITY: If you had everything, where would you keep it?
ON ECONOMICS: The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity.
ON PUBLISHING OR PERISHING: I am returning this otherwise good typing paper to you because someone has printed gibberish
all over it and put your name at the top. -- English Professor, Ohio University
ON REVISIONIST HISTORY: What was sliced bread the greatest thing since?
ON DATING: When aiming for the common denominator, be prepared for the occasional division by zero.
ON MATERIAL SCIENCE: Character density: The number of very weird people in the office.
ON EXTINCTION: Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
ON LITERATURE: This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. -- Dorothy Parker
ON EXPLANATION OF THE END: ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth
ON PROPHECY: The meek shall inherit the earth - they are too weak to refuse.
ON EXCUSES: I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. --Joe Walsh
ON NUMBERS: Grabel's Law: 2 is not equal to 3 -- not even for very large values of 2.
ON WORLD POLITICS: Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock.
AND FINALLY, ON DRUGS AND DEVELOPMENT: There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. I don't
believe this to be a coincidence.
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 03:58pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#736 of 1135)
Test: Allegedly this is one of the questions for potential Microsoft employees.
I must warn you, you can really get caught up trying to solve this problem. Reportedly, one guy solved it by writing a C
program, although that took him 37 minutes to develop (compiled and ran on the 1st try though). Another guy solved it in 3
minutes. A group of 50, at Motorola, couldn't figure it out at all. See how long it takes you. Here we go...
"U2" has a concert that starts in 17 minutes and they must all cross a bridge to get there. All four men begin on the same side
of the bridge. You must help them across to the other side.
It is night.
There is one flashlight.
A maximum of two people can cross at one time.
Any party who crosses, either 1 or 2 people, must have the flashlight with them. The flashlight must be walked back and
forth, it cannot be thrown, etc. Each band member walks at a different speed. A pair must walk together at the rate of the
slower man's pace:
Bono: 1 minute to cross
Edge: 2 minutes to cross
Adam: 5 minutes to cross
Larry: 10 minutes to cross
For example: If Bono and Larry walk across first, 10 minutes have elapsed when they get to the other side of the bridge. If
Larry then returns with the flashlight, a total of 20 minutes have passed and you have failed the mission.
Note 1: There is no trick behind this. It is the simple movement of resources in the appropriate order. There are two known
answers to this problem.
Note 2: This is based on a question Microsoft gives to all prospective employees. Microsoft expects you to answer this question
in under 5 minutes!
Cat [Catrin] - 04:26pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#737 of 1135)
I love this one:
A small town farmer had three daughters. Being a single father, he tended to be a little over-protective of his daughters. When
gentlemen came to take his daughters out on a date, he would greet them with a shotgun to make sure they knew who was boss.
One evening, all of his daughters were going out on dates.
The doorbell rang, the farmer got his shotgun, and answered the door. A gentleman said,
Hi, I'm Joe, I'm here for Flo, We're goin' to the show, Is she ready to go?
The farmer frowned but decided to let them go.
The doorbell rang again, the farmer got his shotgun, and answered the door.
A gentleman said,
Hi, I'm Benny, I'm here for Jenny, We're gettin' spaghetti, Is she ready?
The farmer frowned but decided to let them go.
The doorbell rang again, the farmer got his shotgun, and answered the door.
A gentleman said,
Hi, I'm Chuck,
And the farmer shot him.
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 09:28pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#738 of 1135)
Sorry about that LOLOLOL forgot I had something in there when I fired it.
SherrieG -- Incognito Queen of Roumania [SherrieG] - 09:55pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#739 of 1135)
Men wouldn't understand the "humor" in this one!
PREPARING FOR YOUR MAMMOGRAM
Many women are afraid of their first mammogram, but there is no need to worry. By taking a few minutes each day for the
week preceding the exam and doing the following practice exercises, you will be totally prepared. And best of all, you can do
these simple practice exercises right in your own home.
EXERCISE #1
Freeze two metal bookends overnight. Strip to the Waist and invite a stranger into the room. Press the bookends against one of
your breasts. Smash the bookends together as hard as you can. Set an appointment with the stranger to meet next year and do it
again.
EXERCISE #2
Open your refrigerator door and insert one breast between the door and the main box. Have one of your strongest friends slam
the door shut as hard as posible and lean on the door for good measure. Hold that position for five seconds. Repeat again in case
the first time wasn't effective enough.
EXERCISE #3
Visit your garage at 3:00 a.m. when the temperature of the cement floor is just perfect. Take off all your warm clothes and lay
comfortably on the floor with one breast wedged under the rear tire of the car. Ask a friend to slowly back the car up until
your breast is sufficiently flattened and chilled. Turn over and repeat for the other breast.
CONGRATULATIONS! Now you are properly prepared for your mammogram. Isn't it FUN to be a WOMAN?
[DaveGin] - 10:12pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#740 of 1135)
Er...why, thanks, Mason
I don't know what I did to get the accolades. But I'll take them.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:15pm Jul 28, 1998 EST (#741 of 1135)
Well, DA, I'll tell ya
It's been customary in these parts that when a thread hits a 1000 post are so, someone - anyone - can start a continuation. And
the conversation picks up from there.
As the note at the top of the Politics page says, we are starting to archive. But not all threads will be archived. No decision has
been reached about this particular thread.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Cat [Catrin] - 09:00am Jul 29, 1998 EST (#742 of 1135)
"...Freeze two metal bookends overnight. Strip to the Waist and invite a stranger into the room. Press the bookends against one
of your breasts. Smash the bookends together as hard as you can..." (Sherrie)
YES!!!!! That is PRICELESS!!!
And yer right - the guys won't be able to appreciate it, as they've never had a boob plopped onto a platform, like a side of
beef...ouch!
Cat [Catrin] - 09:48am Jul 29, 1998 EST (#743 of 1135)
I learned yet another lesson yesterday about American arrogance...
The other day I fell asleep and left my contacts in, which always gives me an eye infection. To make matters worse, I got a huge
sty in my left eye.
Yesterday it was only a little better; I was considering going to the doctor.
Late in the afternoon I had a visit from the little old wizened Maya man who designed my garden. He saw my eyes. He left and
returned with a chili (the really small kind). He asked for a candle, and heated the chili over it. He told me to close my eyes, and
he lightly stroked my eyes with the warm chili, 9 times each eye (he counted out loud).
Well. Um, I mean, he is such a nice man, a real sweetheart...I let him perform the ritual because I knew he wouldn't hurt me,
and I didn't want to seem unappreciative of his concern. But it was straight out of a jungle book - I wouldn't have been
surprised if he had been dancing and chanting, as well.
But that American arrogance I was talking about?
This morning both eyes are clear as a bell. No sty. No infection.
American arrogance.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 11:58am Jul 29, 1998 EST (#744 of 1135)
Dave,
I've already brought this issue up with you in email. I'd like to bring it up here as well, in the hopes of stimulating some
discussion on it.
In a post on one of these boards, a participant wrote something akin to the following:
(1) "If you believe that, then you are an asshole."
Could this statement be considered abusive? More importantly, could the statement above be considered more abusive than the
following:
(2) "If you believe that, then you are acting like an asshole."
The difference between the two statements might not be clear because of their inflammatory content. However, there is an
important difference (in my opinion).
Statement #1 is a direct attack on the person, because it attempts to link the belief to being an unpleasant person. It is a way of
saying, "If you believe this, then I don't like you."
Statement #2 is a criticism of a person's actions, not the person. Though it still links something unpleasant to the opinion, the
unpleasantness isn't the person, but the person's actions. It is a way of saying, "If you believe this, then I don't like your
actions." It allows the poster to differentiate between attacking the poster and attacking the posters ideas, or actions.
Is this too subtle a distinction? Are statements #1 and #2 equally inflammatory, or is one more so than the other?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:24pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#745 of 1135)
LuckieBoy------Thank you very, very much for this post, because it is absolutely, positively true. However, don't waste your
time complaining about the personal attacks on this board, either here or by e-mail. They are not going to stop.
They are not going to stop, because there is no enforcement of the rules, especially when those posting these attacks are FOB's,
who also have friends in high places, and those friends also post personal attacks on those whose views they do not like.
You can TRY an e-mail to : jcastro@pathfinder.com, but I have been personally warned that very likely no help will be
available there either.
This is not going to change!
Cat [Catrin] - 12:27pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#746 of 1135)
Bill Russell:
Try Ex-Lax.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 12:31pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#747 of 1135)
Bill,
Frankly, I think I can take it as well as I can dish it out. I'm no newcomer to online "debates," having participated and
moderated several of the most heated conferences in Fidonet nearly 10 years ago. I'm not worried about being the target of
personal attacks, nor am I concerned about those attacks being leveled at my "heroes"--I view such posts as being the last
resort of incompetents.
What I'm concerned with is the inability of on-line posters--all over the Web--to differentiate between a full scale assault on
actions or ideas and a full scale assault on the people holding those ideas.
It's one thing to say, "Liberals are idiots." It's another thing to say "Liberals have idiotic ideas." There's a difference, in my
opinion.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:37pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#748 of 1135)
I agree, of course, but if they claim to enforce the rules, then don't, and they also engage in personal attacks themselves,
someone needs to call attention to it.
As I said, nothing is going to change. We can still discuss it, and we should, but at the risk of being denied access to these
boards, as I have been.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:38pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#749 of 1135)
Cat
Just a word of warning. I once told another poster to "Try Ex-lax" and that post was deleted!
But, I guess since Dave has been on a rant against Bill yours will get to stand!
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:42pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#750 of 1135)
Yes Melanie, that one WILL stand.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:42pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#751 of 1135)
Cat: Thanks for the anecdote illustrating the efficacy of folk medicine.
Sherrie: Thanks for sharing that question for prospective employees of the Microsoft Corp. They sound like a really annoying
company to work for.
I started thinking about a solution to that U2 question and I got a headache, so I stopped.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:50pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#752 of 1135)
The powers that be on these boards, not only engage in personal attacks ON THE BOARDS for ALL to see, then they say if you
want to respond, do it in private, by e-mail, so no one will know what the response was. Of course, this is told ONLY to those
whom they do like.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 12:57pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#753 of 1135)
Bill,
I'm only looking for people's perceptions of what's ok and what isn't. Whether "they" enforce the rules by deleting posts or
taking some other action is not really important at the moment, even though I have asked the Webmaster(s) to review posts
from time to time.
Let me use an example of what I'm trying to get at. Poster A writes a statement that Poster B finds so ludicrous that Poster B just
explodes and says: "You're a freaking lunatic, A! How can you believe that crap?!?"
But Poster C, who is equally incensed by Poster A's diatribe writes: "A, those are the crappiest, looniest ideas I've ever seen you
post."
Both Poster B and C have attacked the post. But my opinion is that C has not violated the rules, whereas B has.
NOT retired SS and everlastingly grateful... [SherrieG] - 12:57pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#754 of 1135)
Would you like some cheese to go with that whine, Mr. Russell?
I think you need to get over yourself. The rest of us have certainly had enough of you to last us awhile.
[Snow Pea] - 12:58pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#755 of 1135)
Paranoia sets in. Perhaps that's something trained in Secret Service school.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 12:58pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#756 of 1135)
Bill...
Might I suggest a nice brie or perhaps a camembert to go with the fine whine that you're enjoying. You've done your share of
"carpet bombing" on these threads.
(Hi, Snow!)
NOT retired SS and everlastingly grateful... [SherrieG] - 12:59pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#757 of 1135)
Mr. Luckie, I think you have it precisely right.
I have found that when I characterize the behavior, rather than the individual, my posts usually stand. When I attack the
person, I am apt to find a missing post.
NOT retired SS and everlastingly grateful... [SherrieG] - 01:01pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#758 of 1135)
GMTA, Hoeker...
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:01pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#759 of 1135)
And so, the personal attacks continue unchecked.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 01:03pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#760 of 1135)
Sherrie...
You go girl!
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:07pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#761 of 1135)
LuckieBoy, again I agree with YOU. How would you characterize the above posts. Are they personal attacks, or not?
Retarded Secret Cervix [Snow Pea] - 01:13pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#762 of 1135)
Hey Hoek! Good to see ya.
Cat [Catrin] - 01:34pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#763 of 1135)
"Retarded Secret Cervix"...ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 01:52pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#764 of 1135)
Bill,
How would I characterize the above posts? Hmmm... Not that it matters really, but I would not consider them personal attacks,
even though they probably do constitute flame-baiting.
Remember, [verbal] violence is the last resort of the incompetent (Lazarus Long). Treat the inflammatory messages for what
they are.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:57pm Jul 29, 1998 EST (#765 of 1135)
I guess you are right----incompetence is is probably the best way to describe it.
The reason I don't respond to such posts is that you always lose when you wrestle with a skunk.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 12:15am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#766 of 1135)
Hmmm...
What's the old saying? "A skunk smells his own..."
snkls [snichols] - 12:29am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#767 of 1135)
Howya doing Bill? Good to see ya. Just don't take the bait.
[spagz] - 01:24am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#768 of 1135)
The mrs left a message for me on the cp today--- A happy marriage is like a long conversation which always seems too short. I
love that girl!
[spagz] - 01:45am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#769 of 1135)
cat Call for ROTO-ROOTER!
snkls [snichols] - 02:02am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#770 of 1135)
Hey guys, either I am so tired I am delusional but I think I wrote quite a cute little quip on the Song for Paula thread. Now I may
be inviting more than I can handle but what the hell. When you get time check it out and tell me what you think? BTW it was in
response to previous post.
[spagz] - 02:08am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#771 of 1135)
NITE ALL gloating to bed.Have a good time.Be kind to dumb animals!
snkls [snichols] - 02:13am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#772 of 1135)
DAVE,
WAS IT YOU WHO SAID THE "DRESS" DID NOT EXIST???????
[Rich Pasma] - 04:03am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#773 of 1135)
As far as the civility issue goes, I have been beating a drum here about the uses of generalizations. Using a statement such as,
"That is a stupid idea". Represents a generalization that promotes an, "I am right, you are wrong attitude," that is going to be
disruptive towards future discussion.
What would be seem to be a little more reasonable, would be for a person to state I think that is a stupid idea because of xyz. It
takes a little more thought and time, but is likely to take some of the emotional edge off of the discussion as it gives the person
being challenged something to bite into. At the same time it takes a little bit out of the reactionary elements that are generated
by quick responses.
Lately I have been overly sensitive towards some of the posts made towards me here. If people what to criticize me for that, I
will admit it is deserved.
The important thing is that what is going on with the current discussion is going to influence the type of people that choose to
join or leave this board and is going to have a long term effect on the quality of the discussion.
What I have presented here is my opinions about how I feel that generalizations have a negative impact on a discussion such as
this. With most issues there are two sides. I would welcome hearing the other side of this one.
To help the other side out, I would say that there does not seem to be a problem in hearing the views from both sides here. In
addition the level of participation here is much higher than I have seen on other political boards I have participated on.
As far as generating political discussion I have created only three or four threads on this board. The most popular one created
produced maybe 42 responses, and I think that seven of them were mine.
So despite some of my perspectives, it seems that the way things being done here have been effective when looking at the end
result.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
[DaveGin] - 10:28am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#774 of 1135)
Well, David, I gotta tell ya...
It would be good if NO ONE characterized ideas OR persons as "idiotic," etc.
It would also be good if I was four inches taller, 30 pounds lighter and 20 years younger. But it ain't gonna happen.
So...we're left with the responsibility of our own words. And our own behaviors. If we want civility, we have to be civil.
This place was not set up as a debating society, complete with stringent adherence to the Rules of Argumentum and Aristotlean
logic.
It's not my job to define in ever-narrowing circles what's ad hom and what's not. Nor is it my job to maintain some rough
balance of insults between the left and the right.
I'm the host. And this is a party, a big party with thousands of people each night. They talk. They argue. They laugh. They get
into fights and have snits. And, we hope, they have a little fun in the process. I'm here to keep the conversations going, add my
opinions and keep the stuffed japapenos and Hawaiian punch coming.
Sometimes, when emotions or egos get out of hand, the name-caling gets too rough,the language too obscene and the fights to
mean and nasty.
Then I step in to ask the offending party to stop. Or to leave.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 10:35am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#775 of 1135)
Why, yes, Snichols, I believe I did
Though this isn't the right board to ask about (Ba-Ba-BUM) The Dress!!!! (gasp)
Back then, we learned the FBI had seized clothes from Monica's apartment. Jackie Judd of ABC and others of Ken Starr's Pet
Journalists made the big stink about (Ba-Ba-BUM) The Dress!!! Unfortunately, they (and Starr) had to back off The Dress!!!
because the FBI found no semen stains.
Now it's back. I would suggest you still maintain a little skepticism about (ba-ba-BUM) THe Dress!!! I notice that the morning
news reports are putting a little distance from the previous day's frenzy of it being THE Semen-Stained Dress.
Maybe it was the fact Linda and Goldberg called in Furhman to check it for stains. (Bet the FBI loved hearing THAT.)
You couldn't put this stuff in a novel. No one would believe it.
DaveGin
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:10am Jul 30, 1998 EST (#776 of 1135)
"No one would believe it".....How very true.
Cat [Catrin] - 12:07pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#777 of 1135)
"You couldn't put this stuff in a novel. No one would believe it." (Dave)
Yer right:
"Topic: The new GOP Glee thread [Pahist-Ahhf] - created 02:27am Jul 30, 1998 EST
Bill Clinton always said he "felt our pain." But now, the climax he enjoyed a year and half ago at the hands (and mouth) of
Monica Lewinsky is spilling first to her dress, then all through the GOP.
Mr. President, "we feel your ecstasy."
Yuck.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 12:15pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#778 of 1135)
Dave,
Although your comments are appreciated, I am equally interested in hearing what others felt would constitute an abusive
message, i.e., a message which might inhibit or restrict other users' enjoyment of the bulletin boards.
In other words, I'm not looking for enforcement of the rules, I'm looking for what people consider non-compliance. This is
partly driven by curiosity, but it is also partly driven by a (perhaps naive) desire to improve the quality of discussions here.
Cat [Catrin] - 01:11pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#779 of 1135)
The reason squabbles are a drag for those who are not involved is that they're boring...scrolling past endless posts saying "did
so!", "did not!"...
What I thorougly enjoy, however, is subtlety...
Like the way LuckieBoy just told Dave to shut up...
Hee, hee, hee....*G*
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 05:18pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#780 of 1135)
Cat,
Nah, I was trying to say that I think Dave misunderstood me. That's ok--I think I'm probably the most misunderstood poster on
this board.
I've tried to tell Dave to shut up before, but it doesn't work.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 05:28pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#781 of 1135)
Unacceptable Language
David Luckie: In an effort to define acceptable language in this forum, I offer the following:
Unacceptable: I say that Rep. Charles Schumer (D-NY) is "a sneaky little turd."
Acceptable: I say that Rep. Schumer is somewhat short of stature, inclined to be less than candid, and may bear some
resemblance to certain deposits left in plumbing devices.
Unacceptable: I say that Dean Nuscholtz is a horse's ass.
Acceptable: "Dean, did you ever manage to get those saddle marks off your forehead?"
Get the idea?
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 05:36pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#782 of 1135)
Heh...
GW, your ability to have fun--no matter what--continues to amaze me. You are the quintessential conservative: Ever optimistic,
ever fun loving. I raise my glass of ale in your general direction.
I think I disagree however, that the first reference to Schumer is unacceptable. Truth is an absolute defense against ad
hominem, isn't it?
Tom [TomBurt] - 05:37pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#783 of 1135)
Hey LuckieBoy, If you are who are I think you are (based on your URL) then you better be toeing the right wing line,
otherwise I'll have to tell Ken about this, LOLLOL. The web sure is a small place isn't it.
Tom
Tom [TomBurt] - 05:40pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#784 of 1135)
DaveGin,
When we exchanged a couple of posts on the "Monica admits..Bubba" site I didn't know you were the host here. What does 'Gin'
stand for (if its any of my business)?
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 05:58pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#785 of 1135)
This guy is flying in a hot air balloon and realizes he is lost. He reduces height and spots a man down below. He lowers the
balloon further and shouts:
"Excuse me, can you tell me where I am?"
The man below says: "Yes, you're in a hot air balloon, hovering 30 feet above this field."
"You must work in Information Technology", says the balloonist.
"I do" replies the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," says the balloonist, "Everything you have told me is technically correct, but it's of absolutely no use to anyone!"
The man below says, "You must be a manager!"
"I am," replies the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," says the man, "you don't know where you are, or where you're going, but you expect me to be able to help. And, you're
in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now it's my fault!"
[DaveGin] - 06:06pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#786 of 1135)
Nah, David. I don't think I misunderstood at all. I mean, I get to give an opinion too.
And GW, that was just a real kneeslapper. At least we seem to be breaking you of using fecal matter as a touchstone for wit.
Tom, I just thought we were having a conversation. Since you're new to the boards - and welcome - I'll repeat for your benefit:
When I sign off my posts as DaveGin, I'm simply voicing my opinion. When I have to step in to break up a fight, remind GW to
stop being a potty mouth or otherwise be board monitor, I sign off with my full name and title.
Gin is a nickname for my wife. Who's Burt?
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
My Tippy Toes fit me to a "T" [TireBiter] - 06:15pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#787 of 1135)
Roy Blount Jr. sez in The Nation:
Did you ever walk into a room and forget why you walked in? I think that is how dogs spend their lives.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 06:19pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#788 of 1135)
Tom,
This is me. Is that you? };> Don't worry, bud. I'm a card carryin member.
I'm in Hotlanta Mon - Wed next week. Wanna grab a brew somewhere? Drop me an email. You got the address.
Dave,
Maybe I misunderstood you, then. I thought you thought I was looking for an enforcement action. Well, I was before, but I'm
not now. I think it's a good idea for people to express what they think is acceptable. It may lead them to practice what they
preach.
inasummerdaze [spagz] - 06:46pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#789 of 1135)
Sherrie -ON what thread did Blabette bring your mother into the picture? BTW,Calling for Barry,Bobby,Johnny, and Fleeee!
[Krysta] - 08:56pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#790 of 1135)
Remember that Microsoft employment quiz that was posted on here?
I just showed it to my son, who solved it, IN HIS HEAD, in about 3 minutes. Mathematically-talented people are spooky sometimes.
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 09:01pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#791 of 1135)
How old?
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 09:03pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#792 of 1135)
LOLOL Krysta, point being my kid doesn't know who U2 are, but when I made it Godzilla, King Kong, Gidrah and Mothra he did it
inside of about six minutes too.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 09:34pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#793 of 1135)
Gin is a nickname for my wife.
Now there's a good topic! Pet names we call our loved ones! I almost never call my little hen-bear-kitten by her proper name.
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 09:36pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#794 of 1135)
What puzzle was this? Did I miss something?
Cat [Catrin] - 10:39pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#795 of 1135)
Pet names?
Best ones I've heard are what the couple upstairs call each other...an American girl and a Mexican guy...
He calls her "Gringa", and she calls him "Beaner"...*G*
The DRESS! The DRESS! [spagz] - 10:51pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#796 of 1135)
Pet names--Our 14yr old cream Persian,who we,sadly, had to put down 1 wk ago,was nicknamed Dimbulb.He always looked like
Dan Quayle-- caught in the headlights.But he was smarter than Quayle!Then,again,what isn't!
[Krysta] - 11:29pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#797 of 1135)
Sherrie
My son is 19. I know your son is much younger, so if he could figure it out, I'm really impressed. I won't mention how long I
worked on it before I gave up, but at least now I know I could get hired at Motorola.
Cooter--it's here, #746.
The DRESS! The DRESS! [spagz] - 11:33pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#798 of 1135)
Did anyone see HARDBALL tonite? GOAT HERD BOY GINSBERG was defending Tripe!ROTFLMAO!
[DanielFox] - 11:37pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#799 of 1135)
Ginsberg was defending Linda Tripp?
Linda! Head for the hills!
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 11:46pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#800 of 1135)
No, not ginzberg. Lacivious Lucienne's son, the courier who loves his mom.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 11:53pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#801 of 1135)
What's with Jonah? He said...Linda was talking to Starr's shop.....then I talked to her shop..........what's all this SHOP talk?
Sounds like wannabe CIA fer gosh sakes.....or........Manual Arts HS????
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 11:55pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#802 of 1135)
LOLOLOL My dad graduated from Manual Arts. My Mom from Belmont.
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 11:55pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#803 of 1135)
Dun, do you know the Original Pantry, down on Figueroa? My grandfather was the chef there for over forty years.
[DanielFox] - 11:58pm Jul 30, 1998 EST (#804 of 1135)
Sherrie - Thanks for the clarification.
The DRESS! The DRESS! [spagz] - 12:02am Jul 31, 1998 EST (#805 of 1135)
My fault I meant Goldberg!SORRY!
The DRESS! The DRESS! [spagz] - 12:14am Jul 31, 1998 EST (#806 of 1135)
Time for a break.See my twisted mind at work on Smoking Dress thread.See ya in a bit.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 12:22am Jul 31, 1998 EST (#807 of 1135)
The Pantry...you betcha! Great place........driver's favorite.....and they know good chow!! Your grandad must've been a hellova
guy too.....
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 12:29am Jul 31, 1998 EST (#808 of 1135)
Indeed he was.
Oh, HIYA Dave ::::batting eyes innocently:::: been a real quiet day, know what I mean?
Cat [Catrin] - 10:40am Jul 31, 1998 EST (#809 of 1135)
"Pet names--Our 14yr old cream Persian,who we,sadly, had to put down 1 wk ago,was nicknamed Dimbulb.He always looked like
Dan Quayle-- caught in the headlights.But he was smarter than Quayle!Then,again,what isn't!" (spagz)
Burton?
;-D
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:29pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#810 of 1135)
Dave: I have a problem with another participant deliberately misrepresenting what I said. Please look at the "Liberal Campaign
Slogans" thread, posts #47-57.
Thank you.
[DaveGin] - 01:57pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#811 of 1135)
That was easy, GW
I killed the entire thread. It had become a repository of some wit and a lot of dross. Mostly it had devolved into another exercise
in who can make the most smutty comment.
Not yours, I might add. But I don't think Alix misinterpreted your post. By your own explanation, there is no corroboration that
registering illegal aliens affected the Dornan race. Dornan alleged it did, but that hardly makes it a fact.
I have spent maybe 20 years on border and immigration issues, GW. And, much to the consternation of Dems and Repubs in
Texas, illegals are very unlikely to register to vote. Or show up at the polls. They're here illegally, you see. Anyone counting on
the illegal vote would be sorely disappointed.
As a side note, I just spent last week on a story involving the heat-related deaths of at least 50 illegal aliens along the Texas
border Since May 1.
They walk for three or four days across some of the meanest country on earth in 108 degree heat. They may carry spare clothes
and a gallon of water for four. All the stock ponds and creeks have dried up. So, they die of heat prostration.
All for a $3 or $4 an hour job in Dallas or Houston and the chance they can send money home to Mexico.
I'm not suggesting your posts were bigoted or insensitive. They were more of your patented slams at Democrats. Nor do I
suggest illegal immigration of correct. I'm simply saying the situation is a bit more complex than your partisanship allows at
times, GW.
And if you'd send me email about complaints like I've asked, we'd be discussing this privately.
Dave McLemore/Time Online
Secondly, you're comments hit me at a bad time. I just finished a story involving the deaths of
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 02:09pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#812 of 1135)
Dave: Okay.
I'm aware of the situation along the Texas border and that Mexicans trying to cross over have died because of the heat.
Yes, it is a bad situation.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 04:12pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#813 of 1135)
Hey, GW...
"If you have complaints about a post you believe is a rule violation, please EMAIL Dave McLemore."
Just thought maybe you'd forgotten.
[Snow Pea] - 10:31pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#814 of 1135)
Dave? You around? I feel like a rooster with a run of the chicken house. Well, actually I'm more interested in the capons.
[Snow Pea] - 10:47pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#815 of 1135)
Hummmmmmm . . . maybe I'll post the seven forbidden words on every thread . . .
The scary part is, I think Babette may be the only one here with me . . .
Actually Babette, you look pretty hot tonight . . .
KENNY is on leave.WHY? [spagz] - 11:31pm Jul 31, 1998 EST (#816 of 1135)
Snow--What are you drinking? Can I have some?
Clinton Is Still Better Than Gore... [redeye] - 07:45am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#817 of 1135)
DaveYou deleted the entire thread, and then declared the complaint GW was making was wrong.
If you are going to delete threads because "It had become a repository of some wit and a lot of dross. Mostly it had devolved into
another exercise in who can make the most smutty comment."
There are going to be very few left.
Clinton Is Still Better Than Gore... [redeye] - 07:51am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#818 of 1135)
This board has so few people using it, that deleting threads is silly.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 08:28am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#819 of 1135)
So few people is soooooo right and we know why!
The Linbergh baby... [redeye] - 08:42am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#820 of 1135)
because you have to read the posts quick - before they get deleted.
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 09:33am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#821 of 1135)
So! What the Hec happened yesterday? Were we all locked out as some kind of slap on the hand or was the server really broke?
And how come Babs, snow pea, and spagz could post and nobody else couldn't? Or were they the only ones who felt the BBS was a
fun thing to do on Friday night!
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 09:40am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#822 of 1135)
We were ALL locked out except UNO WHO!
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 10:36am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#823 of 1135)
Oh, oh...
Another left-wing plot rears it's ugly head.
But, Bill. If babs could get in, it couldn't be so. I don't think that conspiracy theory's going to work on this one.
[DaveGin] - 11:37am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#824 of 1135)
Paranoia runs deep; into your life it will creep...
Oh good heavens. We had technical problems last night. Some areas could access the boards but not post. Moi included.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 11:48am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#825 of 1135)
You mean the Black Helicopters paid Pathfinder a visit last night? Does this mean that you are now operating from Site B? *g*
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 11:51am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#826 of 1135)
Uh, oh, Hanson...
You shouldn't have said that. Now that they know that you know...
[DaveGin] - 11:55am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#827 of 1135)
Yessss, Hanson...Now lean just a bit closer to your monitor
That's it. The image is much clearer now.
Oh...please turn up the volume on your CD player. We've been having a little trouble getting audio from your place lately.
DaveGin
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 11:56am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#828 of 1135)
Hoeker:
I'm heading for Site C as we now speak!
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 12:01pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#829 of 1135)
Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop Wop...
What was that Dave? I'm having a hard time hearing anything over here!
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 12:02pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#830 of 1135)
Oops! I just gave my identity up!
What will the well-manicured man think of me now?
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 06:15pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#831 of 1135)
Movie Clichés
A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from duty.
A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.
A single match will be sufficient to light up a room the size of RFK Stadium.
Action heroes never face charges for manslaughter or criminal damage despite laying entire cities to waste.
All bombs are fitted with electronic timing devices with large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off.
All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets which reach up to the armpit level on a woman but only to waist level on the man
lying beside her.
All telephone numbers in America begin with the digits 555.
All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French Bread.
An electric fence, powerful enough to kill a dinosaur will cause no lasting damage to an eight year old child.
Any person waking from a nightmare will sit bolt upright and pant.
Any lock can be picked by a credit card or a paper clip in seconds.
Unless it's the door to a burning building with a child trapped inside.
Cars and trucks that crash will almost always burst into flames.
Creepy music coming from a graveyard should always be closely investigated.
Dogs always know who's bad and will naturally bark at them.
During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip club at least once.
During a very emotional confrontation, instead of facing the person you are speaking to, it is customary to stand behind them
and talk to their back.
Even when driving down a perfectly straight road, it is necessary to turn the steering wheel vigorously from left to right
every few moments.
Everyone knows the words to every song you want to sing and will sing along with you. They can even carry the solo part so
that they can sing the song back to you even if they have never heard it until you sang half of it.
Guns are like disposable razors. If you run out of bullets, just throw the gun away. You can always find a new one laying
around the next time you need one.
Having a job of any kind will make all fathers forget their son's eighth birthday.
If you need to reload your gun, you will always have more ammunition--even if you haven't been carrying any before now.
If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps.
If your town is threatened by an imminent natural disaster or killer beast, the mayor's first concern will be the tourist trade or
his forthcoming art exhibition.
If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it before long.
If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing St. Patrick's Day parade at any time of the year.
If a killer is lurking in your house, it's easy to find him. Just relax and run a bath. Even if it's the middle of the afternoon.
If a phone line is broken, communication can be restored by frantically pressing the cradle switch and saying, "Hello? Hello?"
If there is a deranged killer on the loose, this will coincide with a thunderstorm that has brought down all the power and
phone lines in the vicinity.
If staying in a haunted house, women should investigate any strange noises in their most revealing underwear.
Interbreeding is genetically possible with any creature from elsewhere in the universe.
It is not necessary to say hello or goodbye when beginning or ending phone conversations.
It is always possible to park directly outside the building you are visiting.
It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts -- your enemies will wait patiently to attack
you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their predecessors.
It's easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the control tower to talk you down.
Kitchens don't have light switches. When entering a kitchen at night, you should open the fridge door and use that light
instead.
Make-up can safely be worn to bed without smudging.
Many musical instruments, especially wind instruments and accordions, can be played without moving the fingers.
Medieval peasants had perfect teeth.
Most people keep a scrapbook of newspaper cuttings, especially if any of their family or friends has died in a strange boating
accident.
Most dogs are immortal.
Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization.
Mothers routinely cook eggs, bacon and waffles for their family every morning even though their husband and children
never have time to eat it.
No matter how badly a spaceship is attacked, its internal gravity system is never damaged.
Once applied, lipstick will never rub off -- even while scuba diving.
One man shooting at 20 men has a better chance of killing them all than 20 men firing at one.
Police Departments give their officers personality tests to make sure they are deliberately assigned a partner who is their total
opposite.
Rather than wasting bullets, megalomaniacs prefer to kill their arch-enemies using complicated machinery involving fuses,
pulley systems, deadly gases, lasers and man eating sharks that will allow their captives at least 20 minutes to escape.
Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to speak the language. A German accent will
do.
Stripping to the waist can make a man invulnerable to bullets.
Television news bulletins usually contain a story that affects you personally at that precise moment.
The Chief of Police is always black.
The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place. No one will ever think of looking for you in there and you
can travel to any other part of the building you want without difficulty.
The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.
When they are alone, all foreigners prefer to speak English to each other.
When you turn out the light to go to bed, everything in your room will still be clearly visible, just slightly bluish.
When a person is knocked unconscious by a blow to the head, they will never suffer a concussion or brain damage.
When paying for a taxi, don't look at your wallet as you take out a bill. Just grab one at random and hand it over. It will always
be the exact fare.
Word processors never display a cursor on screen but will always say: Enter Password Now.
You can always find a chainsaw whenever you're likely to need one.
You're very likely to survive any battle in any war UNLESS you make the mistake of showing someone a picture of your
sweetheart back home.
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 06:30pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#832 of 1135)
Hey Sherrie!
"No matter how badly a spaceship is attacked, its internal gravity system is never damaged. "
I also noticed that really big ships in which other ships fly into have a really big door opened to outer space and people in the
docking bays without spacesuits, almost like because they are on a really big ship there is naturally Air to breath and gravity.
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 06:42pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#833 of 1135)
Hey Sarge!
Good to see ya back in fighting trim, amigo, you were sure bummed out the other night.
::::batting eyes::::
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 06:49pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#834 of 1135)
Yea Sherrie! Like I said I'm getting sick of the roller coaster ride in following this investigation.
Did you see my post #50 on the "MY, MY, MY, THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED!!!" thread? I did say I thought you probably have a
pretty smile!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 07:16pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#835 of 1135)
sherrie: I enjoyed your movie truisms.
I tried the one where, upon getting out of a cab, you just pull a bill out of your wallet and hand it to the cab driver.
Unfortunately, it was a $1 bill for a 20 minute ride in New York City.
The driver was very conscientious about alerting me to my error, though, as he said:
"Hey! Sh*t for brains! Whaddaya expect me ta do wit' dis?"
To which I courteously replied:
"Want me to tell you what you can do with it, as*face?"
New York, New York,
It's a wonderful town....
dunite [babblingbrook] - 09:13pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#836 of 1135)
You can always find a chainsaw whenever you're likely to need one.
Ah, yes......this is very true, mon Sherrie.......because the key grip always has one on his box rental!!.....(;-D
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:17pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#837 of 1135)
Some one is spamming the boards with an antistarr site address. I wonder if it's Serpenthead?
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:20pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#838 of 1135)
Oh! I love SPAM!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:21pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#839 of 1135)
Okay, fine!
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:21pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#840 of 1135)
Hey! You forgot to spam the Ask Dave thread!
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:24pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#841 of 1135)
Thanks Melanie! I had Spam, and hot dogs in my Kimchee chegay tonight!
I don't like this person's particular flavor of Spam though!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:27pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#842 of 1135)
I don't like it either, but children will play, won't they!
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:32pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#843 of 1135)
That guy still forgot to Spam the ask Dave thread, I wonder why!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:33pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#844 of 1135)
You don't think Dave is doing the spamming, do you? He wouldn't waste his time with such nonsense!
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:36pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#845 of 1135)
All I know is Dave doesn't like spamming on his boards. I wonder if he'll make an exception? NAH!
[MadCyberPoet] - 10:38pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#846 of 1135)
That was annoying. I lost track of where I was on everything.
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 10:41pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#847 of 1135)
That guy scrambled the very order of things around here. Did anyone get the licence number of that truck?
[MadCyberPoet] - 10:43pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#848 of 1135)
Well, I suspose if we actually went to his web sight we could get an adress. But why bother?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:52pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#849 of 1135)
Why bother is right! If you have to go to such pains to advertise, it can't be worth much!
[DaveGin] - 11:18pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#850 of 1135)
Starrmustgo has gone
And he/she ain't coming back. Anyone who breaks the rules on spamming that obsessively - and makes so much work for me -
isn't going to play here. No siree.
I got a number those annoying bits of Spam...but not all. My little fingers are wore to nubs. They'll fade away soon enough as
all you make those thoughtful and well-reasoned posts.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:22pm Aug 1, 1998 EST (#851 of 1135)
You da man, Dave!
[DanielFox] - 12:36am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#852 of 1135)
Dave -- What's the deal with the board lately? I couldn't get on last night -- just a white screen. (Whoops -- late correction. I
meant to say I coudn't get on after 8:30.)
Not to beat a dead horse, but wasn't this new format supposed to keep the boards from crashing? (OK, OK, I do like the edit
button. . . which I just used.)
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 03:28am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#853 of 1135)
Hey, Sarge, my picture is up on the, uh, OTHER place.
[Rich Pasma] - 04:30am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#854 of 1135)
Dave,
In an earlier post you indicated that you had worked on an article about the deaths of illegal aliens associated with the heat
wave in Texas. Somewhere along the line I got the impression that you worked for a newspaper.
Just what publication is it that you work for, and is it available on the Internet?
In an e-mail message I sent thanks to Dave for explaining some of the philosophy regarding how he has been managing these
boards. Here is a public one. Thanks for the explanation. I think that you have been doing an excellent job here.
As far as well thought out and reasoned posts, I would not claim to have made many of them. If you know me at all you know I
tend to go on at length. This does not equate to a well thought out and reasoned post. What I think I do is kind of ramble along
and make a point once in a while. In a sense this is how things on this board seems to go on from my perspective.
Recently I have not provided any political opinions. Trying to second guess the justice system of this country seems to be
driving much of the debate here and in much of the media recently. In my opinion a trial conducted by either the public or
media is not going to be fair. Peoples' lack of faith in the justice system in dealing with an issue in a non-political way disturbs
me. The logical approach would be to let the justice department do its job, and let the chips fall where they may.
The unfortunate thing that has happened is the media has become part of the judicial process. Newspapers' circulation and
television ratings have dictated much of the coverage presented. The question is, can you blame them for some of the problems
they seemed to have caused? I would think not.
The thing is, there is not a perfect government, a perfect media, a perfect marriage nor a perfect person that exists. This is
often the premise upon which lawyers operate upon and get away with that has lead to some of the problems that we have. The
most interesting thing to realize about all this is, the founding fathers of this country understood the importance about the
separation of power.
If you look at everything that is going on at times, it is kind of amazing to see how this separation of powers thing, has been
working to keep things in balance.
Rich Pasma,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
PS When I started out here I thought I was going to compose a short post. One of these days I may do this.
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 05:44am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#855 of 1135)
LOLOL Mr. P, why use big words when diminuitive ones will suffice?
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 09:55am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#856 of 1135)
Yep.
That boy has nothing but contempt for the rules of this board. He violates them with the nastiness and severity of a
twelve-year old on Usenet.
[jalder] - 10:10am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#857 of 1135)
The sad part Lucky is that Dave will take no action against Dean, Q, or SherrieG for their violations of the board rules but will
threaten to suspend my posting rights because I object to the personal attacks of Dean, Q, and SherrieG.
Jim A
Talk To The Hand. [redeye] - 10:11am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#858 of 1135)
Or he will delete your threads.
Talk To The Hand. [redeye] - 10:31am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#859 of 1135)
Pop Quiz
Who posted this?
"...a repository of some wit and a lot of dross. Mostly another exercise in who can make the most smutty comment."
[jalder] - 10:31am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#860 of 1135)
I asked Dave, via e-mail, to take care of this post.
Topic: MY, MY, MY, THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED!!!
[Dean Nusholtz] - 10:51am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#26 of 30)
Oh look, the flatulent idiot has made his appearance...#24.
D
What Dave did was go into Deans post and changed it to this.
Topic: MY, MY, MY, THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED!!!
[Dean Nusholtz] - 10:51am Aug 1, 1998 EST (#26 of 30)
Oh look, the flatulent one has made his appearance...#24.
D
So you see, Dave does not even Delete the offending posts of Dean. He simply uses his universal edit privileges to ALTER the
offending posts of Dean and allowing them to remain even though they remain offensive.
Jim A
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:38am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#861 of 1135)
Jim
It is obvious that Dave sees a need to allow certain posters special privileges...a type of liberal affirmative action. Kind of like
allowing a handicap to less skilled players in golf.
Let's be charitable to Dave who is playing the role of the doting daddy.
293 bytes read [hoeker] - 10:47am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#862 of 1135)
Just thought that you might need a reminder...
Please do not post complaints about other posters to this topic; please do not re-post material you allege to be a rule violation.
Please ask questions, silly or serious, relax and have a good time. Bring a sense of humor, too. If you have complaints about a
post you believe is a rule violation, please EMAIL Dave McLemore
[jalder] - 10:55am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#863 of 1135)
please EMAIL Dave McLemore
Been there done that.
No satisfactory response.
Offending posts altered by Dave but not removed.
Offending parties remain and continue posting offensive posts without reprimand or expulsion by Dave.
Rules are not applied equally or fairly.
Jim A
[DaveGin] - 11:03am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#864 of 1135)
DP
[DaveGin] - 11:05am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#865 of 1135)
This may come as a surprise, Jalder, that I do not spend 24-hours a day on these boards. Nor am I required too.
Nor is it my job to keep a balance sheet on insults between the ideological camps on these boards.
You reference Dean's childish insults, but you fail to include your own. Before you add, "He did it first," I'll tell you what I tell
my my kids. "I don't care. You're both wrong."
I would suggest that both you AND Dean grow up.
If you had asked, I would told you that I've been a little busy lately, taking care of an injured spouse and two decidely healthy
children.
If you have complaints to make about my efforts, make them to me or to Janice Castro at jcastro@pathfinder.com.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 11:31am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#866 of 1135)
Dave,
Hey man, I know what you're going through with the injured spouse and two healthy kids. I had a similar situation here in
May.
Just my opinion of course, but I think your job would be a hell of a lot easier if an objective standard was used to measure the
acceptability of user comments here; a standard that relies as little as possible on the judgement of the reviewer. Room for
interpretation is room for dispute.
Right now, all the power of interpretation is all ours and none yours, because the standard is whether a post inhibits our
enjoyment of these boards. We are the sole arbiter of our enjoyment--the only thing you could do to determine whether our
enjoyment has been diminished is to ask. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
[RiteCon] - 11:37am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#867 of 1135)
Well Dave...you certainly seem to have time to voice your opinion on numerous threads here...
Why don't you stop giving us your personal opinion on the issues and just do the job of being an unbiased moderator????? Or a
genial host, as you prefer to be thought of.
That might free you up to spend more time with your family.
Just a suggestion..............
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 11:47am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#868 of 1135)
Apologia for Dave
I think it says something that all the participants right of center complain that Dave is biased, and all the participants left of
center defend him and say he isn't biased.
Despite the fact that Dave harbors some bias toward the left side of the political spectrum, it's my opinion that he's the best
moderator we've ever had.
He contributes intelligent and insightful comments to the discussion (I really appreciate the fact that he joins in the
discussion, in addition to moderating it).
He has a lively sense of humor, and he appreciates our often lame attempts at humor.
I also appreciate the fact that Dave shares information about himself.
I say he's the best damn moderator we ever had around here, and I say we should all buy him a beer in the Rumpus Room.
Would anyone care to second that motion?
[DaveGin] - 11:57am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#869 of 1135)
Simple, RC
Why don't you stop giving us your personal opinion on the issues and just do the job of being an unbiased moderator?
I don't want to. And it's not in the job description.
In my mind, there is a difference between a "unbiased moderator" (whatever that is) and a "jovial host."
As I said, you have complaints, send them in by email.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[DaveGin] - 12:00pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#870 of 1135)
Thanks, GW
What we're trying to do here is create, if not a community, at least a bit of conversation between different people of widely
diverse beliefs and opinions.
It should be fun. And we can learn about each other too.
I'll have a cold Harp beer, if you please. It's awfully hot down here.
DaveGin
Ray: Faster'n a Weedeater can take the fur off a cat's tail. [wardaddy] - 12:05pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#871 of 1135)
Dave
Come on up to Sardis. I just had a new A/C-Furnace unit put in and it's colder'n a banker's heart in my hootch.
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 12:43pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#872 of 1135)
Sherrie!
Further define "Other". I'm clueless this morning. I think I remember seeing your picture when it was posted, I just don't
remember where!
[jalder] - 01:07pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#873 of 1135)
Just sent this e-mail to Dave.
Dean is speaking of a bodily function in a way meant to Demean me. I want his post removed.
Topic: Subpoena Showdown ( Serious Discussion: Non Flaming Thread )
[Dean Nusholtz] - 07:44am Aug 2, 1998 EST (#834 of 891)
Yes, misdemeanors is what ever Congress, namely the House decides they are!
Guffaw, the rule of 'republican' law...
If there actually is a degree one can get from college for passing gas...this guy has set the curve...
D
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 01:25pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#874 of 1135)
Dave I'll buy you a case! A JD BLK for me.BTW Sarah(redeye) Getting lonely on the FREEPER board?
[jcastro] - 01:58pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#875 of 1135)
Now kids, let's settle down. I have deleted a couple of posts in which jalder reposted offensive stuff to demonstrate how much it
bothered him. We specifically ask you not to do that. Dave is too busy to run around after everyone sweeping up when things
get out of hand, so sometimes I drop by and try to help. But generally you guys do a good job of keeping a fairly civilized tone
and encouraging others to do so. We thank you for that. Ritecon, cool it. Dave's job is to be part of these dialogues as time
permits. He's not merely a drive-by shooter of unpleasant posts. If he were he would not be moderating this area, he would
simply be sanitizing it. And wouldn't that be a shame. Dave is one of our most thoughtful and even poetic participants. Thanks
to all of you for one of our most enjoyable threads. I enjoy coming by to see what's up. Don't always have time to post, but wish I
did. Happy weekend Janice
[jcastro] - 02:01pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#876 of 1135)
Thanks G. Washington! I'm buying. I'll have a cold Bass, please.
Janice
Talk To The Hand. [redeye] - 02:25pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#877 of 1135)
Dave is a good guy and funny.
GW - he deleted a thread because of one of your complaints and then called your complaint wrong.
Spagz - Who is sarah? I don't know what a "freeper" board is.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 02:37pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#878 of 1135)
redeye: I acknowledge what you say.
I didn't say Dave was perfect.
But I do believe we could do a whole lot worse for a moderator.
Having a moderator who participates in the discussions, and does it with insight and wit, is a big plus.
Believe me.
[jalder] - 02:40pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#879 of 1135)
redeye
I disagree.
Dave over reacts by threatening to take away your posting privileges for the slightest infraction if you are a member of the
right or not a Lap Dog Clinton supporter. He has even terminated peoples posting privileges for unfounded allegations that a
poster is misrepresenting who they are.
However if you are a member of the left, he issues a very mild form of chastisement such as "now stop that SherrieG, you know
better".
When I see Dave using the EXACT same language to chastise everyone who commits the slightest of infractions then I will
consider him to be a fair and honest person.
Jim A
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 02:45pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#880 of 1135)
Redeye--Do you deny calling me a dork? NIXON LIVES thread Your Post#3 7/29/98--Someone on the FreeRepublic board used the
identical insult to someone that,I am sure,posted once and then was denied access.
[masontwo] - 02:48pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#881 of 1135)
To the spagz family:
The freeper board is the Free Republic forum which should be given much sunlight and fresh air to deodorize and sanitize....Do
you enjoy zoos?
Go and see often, stay a few minutes and peer into the cages, don't feel too sorry for the inmates; they have each other!
Freepers: Please don't feed the animals!
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 04:17pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#882 of 1135)
NAPTIME! Latter.
snkls [snichols] - 04:19pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#883 of 1135)
I'm with you spagz, but just got some new software, lol a game looks awesome and I want to install it. See ya later.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 05:05pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#884 of 1135)
jalder, thanks again for supporting me, as I am the one you were talking about above, who was denied access with no evidence
at all, just complaints, which tuned out to be erroneous complaints from the left wingers on this board.
Dave was apparently anxious to get me off these boards, so he did so immediately upon reading those unfounded complaints. I
had no opportunity to object, except by email to Dave. When I did, in no uncertain terms, and yet being polite, I was allowed
back on these boards, but was not informed about it, until much later.
I have never, to this day, received an apology from Dave. Has anyone else?
I believe, like you, that there exists a great deal of bias as to which posts are deleted and which are allowed to remain with a
mild slap on the wrist.
Everyone is biased, we just can't help ourselves from being biased. We should be allowed to defend ourselves ON THESE BOARDS
when we are accused of being a FRAUD like I was, without the slightest evidence.
Thank God, you and other posters reviewed the posts and came to my defense right away. I will always be grateful to all of you,
who believe in fairness.
One more thing, Dave is allowed to complain about us ON THE BOARDS, but if we want to complain, we have to do it by email, so it
will be private.
I suppose this post will be deleted too, and I will be told to submit my complaints via email, so no one will know what the
complaints are.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 05:12pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#885 of 1135)
Fer gawd's sake.........will you whining, puling infants stop it? You're appallingly immature and exceedingly irritating........I
know four year olds who are better conversationlists and whine a lot less.
[MadCyberPoet] - 05:14pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#886 of 1135)
LOL!!!
The right wing persecution complex. Its always the liberal conspiracies fault.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 05:23pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#887 of 1135)
Blah, Blah, Blah.....on and on and on, NEVER any INTELLIGENT dialog.
If you have NOTHING intelligent to say, why say anything?
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 05:31pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#888 of 1135)
BIZZARO I am back. Do you care to WHINE to me? Or is this your usual gun & run post?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 05:33pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#889 of 1135)
s-PIG-z..........................
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 05:39pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#890 of 1135)
Blinded by your wit! No one around to protect you SS MAN?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 05:44pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#891 of 1135)
s-PIG-z.......................
[jalder] - 05:58pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#892 of 1135)
Babbl, MadCyberPoet, spagz
If you have nothing constructive to say, go to your sandboxes and bother your playmates with your infantile, sophomoric,
unintelligible, "spagz cyber babble"!!!!!!!!!!
Whine, Whine, Whine is all we ever hear from the poor Clinton is being picked on Sheep, along with their incessant and
undeterred by the management, personal attacks on the intelligent posters.
Jim A
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 06:07pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#893 of 1135)
One day Billy Bob goes to town wearing nothing but his gun belt and boots. The sheriff spots him and asks, "What the hell are
you doing walking around town dressed like that?" B.B. replies, "Well sheriff, it's a long story. Me and Mary Lou was down
on the farm and we started a-cuddlin'. Mary Lou said we should go in the barn and we did. Inside the barn we started
a-kissin' and a-cuddlin' and things got pretty hot and heavy. Well, Mary Lou said we should go up on the hill. So we did. Up
on the hill we started a-kissin' and a-cuddlin' and then, all of a sudden, Mary Lou up and took off all her clothes and said I
should take off mine, too. So I took off all my clothes, 'cept for my gun belt and my boots. Mary Lou lay on the ground and
opened her legs and then, for some strange reason she said, "Billy Bob, go to town!"
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 06:12pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#894 of 1135)
I am so glad JimmyWimmy and Bizarro Bill the scheming prevaricator have each other, they make such a cute couple.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 06:13pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#895 of 1135)
groan*
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 07:24pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#896 of 1135)
WHAT A WOMAN SAYS: Cmon...This place is a mess! You and I need to clean. Your pants are on the floor and you'll have no
clothes if we don't do laundry now! WHAT A MAN HEARS: C'MON....blah, blah, blah YOU AND I blah, blah, blah blah, blah ON
THE FLOOR blah, blah, blah, NO CLOTHES blah, blah, blah, blah, NOW!
I am what I am, and that's all that I am! [SGTTAG] - 07:32pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#897 of 1135)
Why just the other day after my wife did the wash, I told her I haven't any shirts She said she washed everything in the dirty
cloths hamper. I said then how come there are no shirts here for me. She said Did you look in your favorite corner of the room?
I looked and said:
OH!
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 07:41pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#898 of 1135)
A man was visiting his wife in hospital where she has been in a coma for several years. On this visit he decides to rub her left
breast instead of just talking to her. On doing this she lets out a sigh. The man runs out and tells the doctor who says this is a
good sign and suggests he should try rubbing her right breast to see if there is any reaction.
The man goes in and rubs her right breast and this brings a moan from his wife. He rushes out and tells the doctor. The doctor
says this is amazing and is a real break through. The doctor then suggests the man should go in and try oral sex, saying he will
wait outside as it is a personal act and he doesn't want the man to be embarrassed.
The man goes in then comes out about five minutes later, white as a sheet and tells the doctor his wife is dead. The doctor asks
what happen to which the man replies: "She choked."
Talk To The Hand. [redeye] - 08:34pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#899 of 1135)
Jalder
Dave works for Time Inc.
you follow...
Talk To The Hand. [redeye] - 08:36pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#900 of 1135)
Spagz
your powers of deduction are skipping a gear.
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 08:37pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#901 of 1135)
Sarah(redeye) FREEPER BOARD down
[RiteCon] - 09:40pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#902 of 1135)
Well, Dave if you "don't want to" then do not complain that you don't have time to do the moderator job, as you are want to do.
And since you are SO busy and do not have time to do your job, I won't bother to email you. In fact, I have emailed on this
system in the past and found it to be a royal waste of time. My time.
I'll just drop you a little line from time to time anywhere I see fit...on the board.
Stuck Farr [SherrieG] - 10:21pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#903 of 1135)
Do it, we find your little snits so amusing.
[DaveGin] - 10:24pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#904 of 1135)
Say, what, RC?,/b>
I'm sure all that made sense to you. But you're comparing apples to hiking boots.
Posting my own opinion IS part of my duties here. And any outside demands on my time have nothing to do
with me posting opinions.
David Luckie's post (Thanks, LuckieBoy) about the need for an objective decision maker would make a lot of
sense if this was a formal debate board.
We could have all kinds of very specific rules about what could be said, how it could be said and what topics
and how many could be discussed. And there would be about five people signing on each night.
But this isn't a debating board. And our rules are broad enough and clear enough to allow lively and, I
hope, entertaining discussion without choking the life out of it.
I don't know about your distrust of email, RC. The very few times I can remember you using it, your
complaints were dealt with.
And, RC, If you're hoping to keep me from posting my opinions, you'll be sadly disappointed. I'm here for
the long haul.
Dave McLemore/TIME Online
[MadCyberPoet] - 10:25pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#905 of 1135)
God, do they ever stop whining?
[DaveGin] - 10:26pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#906 of 1135)
Hell, GW, I don't even think I'm perfect
But parts of me are close.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:30pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#907 of 1135)
Follow what, Redeye?
Pssst...I am not employed by Time. My only connection is the contract to be host for these boards. I don't necessarily like their
news coverage.
But what particularly is supposed to follow from my connection to Time?
Am I to take it that you don't find me funny OR a good guy. Maybe you and Bill can form a club. Charge dues. Put out a
newsletter.
Follow your bliss, bro.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 10:34pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#908 of 1135)
Ray, I'm on the way
Any old hooch in a storm. As long as we don't have to drink `33' Beer. Nasty stuff, even if it was cold.
DaveGin
[jalder] - 10:37pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#909 of 1135)
Thats called bombdebomb Dave for the throbbing formeldahyde headache it produces.
Jim A
Vote Democratic and MAYBE you'll see your cat again [DanielFox] - 10:46pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#910 of 1135)
Applause
Dave -- Just caught your new Board intro regarding "transposed letters."
Let me be the first to say: Way to go. High time.
[DaveGin] - 10:51pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#911 of 1135)
Oh, I remember, Jim
We preferred hot Budweiser. But beggers couldn't always be generous.
We called that Vietnamese monstrosity "bam-bam." And that was the rumor, wasn't it- that formeldahyde was used in the
brewing process.
Jesus, the things you remember.
DaveGin
[RiteCon] - 11:01pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#912 of 1135)
Thanks Dave for the note about the juvenile letter switching in posters names! It is about time!
P.S. That's the sort of thing I thought the moderator was SUPPOSE to do????!!!!
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 11:02pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#913 of 1135)
panther piss.
[DaveGin] - 11:05pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#914 of 1135)
You're so welcome, RC, for your kind and thoughtful note.
DaveGin
[RiteCon] - 11:07pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#915 of 1135)
I'm always there to support YOU, Dave!
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 11:08pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#916 of 1135)
don't let her hug ya, Dave, she's got a shiv.
[jalder] - 11:10pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#917 of 1135)
That'll work SherrieG!
I always like the rhyme in bomb-dee-bomb though.
Actually took my last drink in 1976 but still have lots of memory of that stuff from 68 - 75.
Jim A
Mike(r) [jesters1] - 11:42pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#918 of 1135)
3 cheers for Dave! Way to keep the board semi-respectable.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:48pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#919 of 1135)
Semi IS the operative word.....THANKS.
[jalder] - 11:52pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#920 of 1135)
What is "nuckfewt" going to do? If Dave is true to his word, "nuckfewt" will have to go!
Jim A
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 11:55pm Aug 2, 1998 EST (#921 of 1135)
Dave It's not the things you remember,it's the things you don't!
Far Left, Ultra Liberal, Politically Correct [Panama Hank] - 12:37am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#922 of 1135)
Wow, what a bunch of pantywaists, couldn't drink Ba Muy Ba beer. I'll bet you guys didn't like Nuoc Mam either. No wonder we
lost the war.
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 12:42am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#923 of 1135)
Really, Jim? LOLOL I bet you have to claim you're a friend of Dr. Bob.
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 12:43am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#924 of 1135)
(disclaimer: That was NOT a slam.)
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 12:50am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#925 of 1135)
Just checked FREEPER BOARD.They are turning on each other.LOVE IT! See FreeReb posts
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 12:57am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#926 of 1135)
LINK, gimme a LINK!!!!
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 01:14am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#927 of 1135)
Go here
Anything else!
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 01:25am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#928 of 1135)
Sarge, sweetie, the link didn't work...
Either that, or they have already taken down the page.
It's A-U-G-U-S-T-!!!ARG-H-H-H! [spagz] - 01:28am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#929 of 1135)
Sherrie Go to Drudge report link off it.
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 01:42am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#930 of 1135)
OOPS! I forgot to put http// in front of that! Sorry! Sher!
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 01:55am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#931 of 1135)
Found it. WOW, those people are warped.
Spagz Thinks I'm Sarah [redeye] - 08:01am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#932 of 1135)
Dave
you are both funny and a good guy (a little sensitive maybe).
Time is getting a reputation as hacks for Clinton, especially Mrs. Clinton.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 09:06am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#933 of 1135)
"But I do believe we could do a whole lot worse for a moderator."
YOU BETCHA. I just abandoned a board with a petty, biased, lying little despot passing himself off as a "moderator."
Dave's job is not an easy one. In the pre-WWW days of Fidonet, I moderated conferences on politics, economics and operating
system debates. In Fidonet, the conference moderator was GOD. I once removed the entire state of Arizona from my poli-sci
conference when a BBS operator refused to deny access to an abusive poster. The sysop appealed the decision to the zone
coordinator, who upheld my decision, because the decision was based on comparing the offensive messages to an objective
standard. Dave, I know firsthand what you are up against, and nothing would make your job easier than strengthening the
rules of the board. You know the old adage about when your only tool is a hammer, every problem resembles a nail? Well, when
your best tool is an accurate and objective ruler, every problem resembles something that needs to be measured with it.
Even someone with political ideas that lie to the left of Ted Kennedy can use a ruler. ;) Keep up the good work, and I'll do better
than buying you a beer.
I'll brew ya one.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 09:28am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#934 of 1135)
"David Luckie's post (Thanks, LuckieBoy) about the need for an objective decision maker would make a lot of sense if this was a
formal debate board.
We could have all kinds of very specific rules about what could be said, how it could be said and what topics and how many
could be discussed. And there would be about five people signing on each night.
Now there ya go misunderstanding me again. </whine> Heh...
It's not the lack of an objective decision-maker, it's the lack of an objective standard. I'm not talking about glueing this thing
to Robert's Rules of Order; or the Federal Rules of Evidence, or anything else that takes longer than a few minutes to read. Just
something that relies on the content of the post, rather than the enjoyment of the user.
As I said, right now, all of the power for determining whether a post is appropriate lies with me, the user, because I am the sole
arbiter of my enjoyment. Being the thick skinned veteran of on-line debates that I am, it takes a lot of nastiness to diminish my
enjoyment. Someone else, whose emotions are much more easily brought to the surface, may not be able to deal with the most
innocent of jests.
However, all of the power of deciding whether the post stays or goes lies with you. As long as that situation remains, you will
constantly have to deal with accusations of unfairness. I say, you should have the power to determine whether a post is
appopriate, you should have a plain english standard for doing so, and you should have the power to kill the posts that don't
meet the standard. You got two out of three. IMO, the power you need most is the one you don't have yet.
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 09:28am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#935 of 1135)
The First Ladies of several countries were together, and talk turned to what they called the male sexual organ.
Britain's First Lady said that they called it a "gentleman" because it always stood at attention when ladies were around.
France's First Lady said that they called it "curtain" because it went down after the first act.
Hillary said that in the U.S. they call it "rumor" because it goes from mouth to mouth.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 10:07am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#936 of 1135)
Priceless!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 10:15am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#937 of 1135)
The board moderator
In the context of this discussion about our esteemed board moderator, I would add that I very much appreciate the latitude that
Dave allows to discussions around here.
I've said this before, and I may be in a minority on this viewpoint, but I think a certain amount of vitriol and hostility adds
spice to the discussions here.
The last thing I'd want to see is a high school debate, governed by rigid rules of conduct. B-O-R-I-N-G.
Keep up the good work, Dave, even if you are more left of center than I'd prefer.
[RiteCon] - 10:27am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#938 of 1135)
GW...exactly what relation is Dave to you???? Your son? Brother?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 10:29am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#939 of 1135)
"Even if you ARE more left of center"
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 10:34am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#940 of 1135)
The most ethical moderator in history...
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 10:42am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#941 of 1135)
RiteCon: Your comments are a little hurtful to me. Just because I don't share your view of Dave, that doesn't mean I'm a shill.
As someone whose opinions and intelligence I respect a lot, your criticism stings me a bit.
However, I do feel that Dave does about as good a job as can be done. And I freely acknowledge that, when he speaks ex
cathedra, as DaveGin, that he's one of the Clinton apologists.
And even when he speaks in the godlike, stentorian tones of the board moderator, he is still harsher on the conservatives than
the liberals.
But overall, he's pretty darn fair, and I value him as one of the people who take part in the discussions.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 10:42am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#942 of 1135)
"The last thing I'd want to see is a high school debate, governed by rigid rules of conduct. B-O-R-I-N-G."
Same here, which is why I don't think such rigid rules are needed. I also agree that some combativeness is necessary for a
spirited discussion. It is definitely one of the reasons why I can't seem to stay away.
Here's what I have in mind, with absolutely no pride of authorship whatsoever:
1. Conduct. You may use Pathfinder's bulletin boards and chat areas for lawful purposes only. You may not transmit messages
which are threatening, abusive, defamatory, vulgar, or obscene. You may not transmit messages which, in the
opinion or TINM, are insulting, demeaning or humiliating, in either intent or effect. You may not transmit
messages which encourage conduct that constitutes a criminal offense or infringe upon the publicity or privacy rights or any
other rights of any person or party. If you engage in any conduct which, in TINM's opinion, violates the above
restrictions, TINM may remove your posting and/or cancel your access to these areas of Pathfinder. TINM
shall have sole discretion to determine whether messages are in violation of these guidelines.
The enjoyment stuff is gone, the otherwise objectionable stuff is defined, and there are even fewer words.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 10:44am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#943 of 1135)
I'm on the road and unplugged until Thursday, gang. Y'all have fun, and for goodness sakes keep your claws away from each
others' throats...
[_Liz_] - 10:54am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#944 of 1135)
As I said, you have complaints, send them in by email. <
YOU tell 'em, Dave!
How is everyone and what happened to your espousa?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 10:58am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#945 of 1135)
As I said, email is private. No one else gets to know what the complaint is.
[Rich Pasma] - 11:01am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#946 of 1135)
Dave you still have not answered my question regarding what publication you work for?
Sherrie, once in a while I appreciate your humor, thanks.
As to the way Dave has been managing things here, I do not have a problem, when you consider that there is a wide diversity
of views presented along with a fairly high level of participation.
As far as ruling with an iron fist with rules and the way it appears things should be done simply does not work. While I was in
college I belonged to a service club that had weekly meetings. You may know the joke about meetings, "Meeting are where
minutes are taken and hours are spent". Anyway I was bored to death at times the way these meetings were conducted. They
typically ran anywhere from 1.5 to 2 hours.
Well I eventually became president of that service club. Taking actions I thought would be beneficial to everyone concerned; I
was able to cut the length the meetings down to no more that 15 to 20 minutes. Was I a hero, no. Both membership and
participation fell off. This was presented to show that things are not as simple as they may seem.
Not long ago, I got involved in trying to defend myself against what I perceived to be attacks upon me, on this board. In the
end, other than making a fool of myself, nothing was accomplished. What I learned was, if there seems to be opinions coming
from both sides, do not worry about personal attacks.
The final and most important point is, most of the people that participate on a board such as this tend to be somewhat
opinionated. Anyone feeling that they are going to be changing the opinions of other people is fooling themselves. While this
may not go over well with some of the efforts people have made here, it is fact.
Putting another angle on this. It is unlikely that Newt Gingrich is going convince Dick Gephardt to change political parties.
Turning this around the chances of the opposite is not likely to happen either. While some people may not agree with this I
feel that both these people are coming from sincere beliefs regarding the disagreements they have in most cases.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
[RiteCon] - 11:03am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#947 of 1135)
I'm sorry GW!!! I was just joshin' ya!!!! Really! I like to give Dave trouble!!! Overall, he does okay but he is so left leaning that I
feel we must jab him on occasion to tilt him to the center!!!
You're still my favorite GW!!!! Don't be hurt!!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:04am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#948 of 1135)
GW
If you were a Republican woman and had been subjected to the nasty, childish word picture Dave painted of Republican women
a few months back, you too would have a hard time having warm feelings toward him. I never expected such an attack from
someone whose views I used to have respect for, but he posted them and never apologized even though they were, in my
opinion, insulting, demeaning and humiliating, in direct opposition to the rules of the board.
You are a very fair minded poster, so please try to understand why RiteCon and some other conservative women have a hard
time with Dave.
[Dean Nusholtz] - 11:06am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#949 of 1135)
Just so you know, it wasn't I who wrote:
You have pasted a big pulsing target on your forehead. It reads, blinking; Dumbass, Dumbass. Dumbass.... "
That was Ward...
However, I'll scale it back...
D
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 11:09am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#950 of 1135)
Melanie:
I acknowledge what you say.
I respect yours and RiteCon's right to take Dave to task. You keep him honest.
I notice Liz is back. I'm sure she'll have something to say about Dave.
Liz?
[_Liz_] - 06:03pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#62 of 1135)
Has anyone heard from Cat, lately? I e mailed her about a week ago just to check on her but she didn't respond.
Maybe there should be an outpouring of concern, folks.
[jcastro] - 08:27pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#63 of 1135)
Hi Folks someone asked about Search: We haven't been able to install it. And if we did, apparently it would slow down the boards.
How important do you feel Search would be? Would you be willing to put up with slower boards to get it? Or would you rather have
faster boards? JC
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 08:38pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#64 of 1135)
faster boards.
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 08:44pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#65 of 1135)
Janice...I hope I remembered your name.
Search would be nice....but what I really would like is an index.
I find it hard to throw myself into a topic...by reading the last few posts...
If there was an index then I could see when the conversation was lively...and not to be accused of being cliquie but who the
participants are.
Going backwards doesn't work and sometimes., especially when the conversation dies off and then becomes current again....
Going through the posts from the last time I checked that thread...(as my picks)..also doesn't let me know if there if the topic stays
topical or just become a topic with little input and few posters participating.
Since this new format, I have found that I am less inclined to post and spend a great deal of time..trying to catch up..mostly in
areas that I would have skipped over. Usually I find I can't get into the board at all and move on.
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 09:04pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#66 of 1135)
Jolly I didn't get your e-mail..last one I got was Apr 2 (LOL)...have you changed your IPS since then...or have I accidently
thrown you in the trash?
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 09:06pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#67 of 1135)
My ISP died a couple of months back. New address is vikings@telusplanet.net
Kickin' butt and got the Medals to Prove it!! [denise] - 09:19pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#68 of 1135)
That's the one I had...you must have posted it on the boards and I updated my address book...geez I'm so efficient.
[Snow Pea] - 09:58pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#69 of 1135)
I've been wonderin' about Cat too. She probably just needed to take a break. Who can blame her. Though Cat, we are thinking
about you.
Although it's a different circumstance perhaps, I am wondering about Babblingbrook as well. She is still welcome on the board
-- isn't she folks?
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 10:02pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#70 of 1135)
She is as far as I'm concerned SP .
[cabot] - 10:07pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#71 of 1135)
Speaking for myself, of course babblingbrook is welcome.
I would hope that she realises that insults invite escalating responses.
I would also hope that she and I can contribute to a positive exchange of ideas.
cabot
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:31pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#72 of 1135)
"My rear view mirror fell off my windshield, probably because of the incredible heat. I have gotten rear view mirror glue to
fix it."
Melanie, do not waste your time with that junk they sell as mirror glue. Find a glue called Goop. It works in Panama, so it
will work anywhere.
[Snow Pea] - 10:34pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#73 of 1135)
Thanks Cabot, and especially you, Jolly.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:34pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#74 of 1135)
"Now...if anyone knows how to fix my head gasket, please let me know."
The only fix for a bad head gasket is to remove the head, check it to make sure it is not warped, and install a new head gasket.
This is not a job for non-mechanics.
[Snow Pea] - 10:37pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#75 of 1135)
I blew a head gasket in a stinkin' old Ford Escort I had. Needless to say, I will never buy a Ford piece-of-junk again. Once
burned, twice shy.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:38pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#76 of 1135)
Jollie, I would like add you to the list of people to whom I send jokes, radical libertarian political commentary and wacko stuff. A
simple yes or no will do.
[Snow Pea] - 10:40pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#77 of 1135)
Of course, I will never buy a Buick as well. Due to that stupid, obnoxious ad at the top of this board.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:41pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#78 of 1135)
"I blew a head gasket in a stinkin' old Ford Escort I had."
That's what you get for buying one of those god-forsaken world-cars. Next time buy a real Ford; Mustang, Crown Vic (made in
Canada, BTW), or a full size pickup.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:45pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#79 of 1135)
Hank
I've got some Goop in my junk drawer! Didn't think about using it for this, but I just might! Thanks for the tip!
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 10:51pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#80 of 1135)
Hank yes. j
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 10:57pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#81 of 1135)
"I've got some Goop in my junk drawer!"
Mel, I tried three different mirror glues, and none worked. The Goop did. Be sure to clean the glass, separate the mirror from its
base and let it sit overnight to cure.
Jollie, consider it done.
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 11:15pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#82 of 1135)
I will never buy an Isuzu since they have gone from that horrifying slinky song to gruesome renditions from "Paint your
Wagon."
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:23pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#83 of 1135)
Hi Sher, I have an '87 Isuzu P'Up with 165,000 miles. Runs like a top. I'm thinking of naming it the "Energizer Peacup".
[Snow Pea] - 11:29pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#84 of 1135)
Hank -- Admittedly, I rented a Crown Vic once and found it most enjoyable. But hey, I'm a Liberal. We have to buy "world" cars.
LOL!!!
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 11:32pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#85 of 1135)
Snow Pea, if you think the Vic is enjoyable, you really owe it to yourself to strap on a 5.0L Mustang or one of the new DOHC
Cobras.
[cabot] - 11:47pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#86 of 1135)
Panama Hank-
I didn't realize that your handle was meant to indicate you lived in Panama.
I worked there as a contractor at Albrook AFB in the late '50's. Met my lovely wife there and this year we celebrate our 41st
anniversary.
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 11:47pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#87 of 1135)
Snow.....get a Lincoln. Only Ford product I ever owned.
Hank, you've been getting stuff from me every now and then, but you probably don't know that it's me....lol!
By the way, my '87 Mazda PU has 247,000 on it, and is still rolling strong!
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 11:53pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#88 of 1135)
I had the 1976 302 4 speed Cobra II. Loads of fun. Babe magnet... until they saw me! LOL
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 11:54pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#89 of 1135)
Now there's Cooter... a man with great wheels! (I've seen the car!)
[Snow Pea] - 11:57pm Jun 26, 1998 EST (#90 of 1135)
I live in a Lincoln infested neighborhood, Cooter. I like 'em, but my Honda really stands out. Just traded in my '88 for a '98. Best
cars I ever owned. Of course, if size matters . . .
"Give me ambiguity, or give me something else" [SherrieG] - 12:25am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#91 of 1135)
As somebody up to her ass in Godzilla products let me inform you that size does matter.
It's FRIDAY, and I have a new blonde, single neighbor [CooterBrown] - 12:28am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#92 of 1135)
LOL Sher!
Snow, I have a '91 Mark VII, and I love it! Hondas are good cars, though. I've had several of them.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:30am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#93 of 1135)
"I worked there as a contractor at Albrook AFB in the late '50's. Met my lovely wife there and this year we celebrate our 41st
anniversary."
It's still a beautiful place, Cabot, though there have been many changes. Albrook was turned over to Panama in October last
year. I married my wonderful Panamanian wife in 1976.
Ban Nerf-Worlders Before They Ban Everything Else [Panama Hank] - 12:39am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#94 of 1135)
Cooter, when I get old, I have my heart set on a Lincoln MK VIII, but for now I'm having too much fun with my 5.0L Mustang.
This sumbitch will lay rubber going into third.
Õ ¿ Õ "Maybe this world is another planet's Hell". [jollyollie] - 12:41am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#95 of 1135)
C'mon Hank, keep tryin'... get it to *chirp* going into fourth!
What the world needs now is love [CooterBrown] - 12:46am Jun 27, 1998 EST (#96 of 1135)
Hank, I hear that they're not going to make the Mark Series anymore. I'm never getting rid of this hummer! It's a deep candy
apple red! Gawgeous!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:12am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#951 of 1135)
GW
I don't think Liz is a Republican woman. Just a guess! :^)
[DaveGin] - 11:24am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#952 of 1135)
Just a note of clarification
If you were a Republican woman and had been subjected to the nasty,
childish word picture Dave painted of Republican women a few
months back...
The comments, while arguably nasty and childish, were not directed at Republican
women. But at two women who repeatedly regaled the boards with penis jokes and
endless speculation about the Presidential member.
It was tasteless, unnecessary and frankly seemed out of character with the two
posters whom I don't necessarily agree with politically, but whom I respect.
I have nothing against Republican women. My mother and most of her friends are
Republican women. And they would die of shame before they speculated about sizes
and shapes of the First Organ.
DaveGin
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:33am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#953 of 1135)
Ya know what, Dave
I would die of shame before speculating about the size and shape of George Bush's
penis, or Ronald Reagan's penis, or Jimmy Carter's penis, or Al Gore's penis....but of
course they have shown enough respect for themselves and those around them not
to go flashing their penises inappropriately, thereby creating a situation where
the size and shape of their penises are discussed on the six o'clock news, in the
nation's newspapers and on political bulletin boards and at bridge tables, by
Republican women everywhere!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:36am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#954 of 1135)
And another thing, Dave
If you weren't directing your post to Republican women, why did you use the term -
Republican women - when making that post?
dunite [babblingbrook] - 11:51am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#955 of 1135)
Melanie
You're either purient or not.....and when you reduce yourself to the sorts of
comments you made, don't expect to be thought of as someone of unassailable virtue.
You have to take responsibility for your less than lady-like mouth..........maybe if
you tried less to be one of the 'boys'?.....
[RiteCon] - 11:55am Aug 3, 1998 EST (#956 of 1135)
Melanie.....you're the best!
Dun...go mind your own business.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:03pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#957 of 1135)
dunite
Your less than lady-like mouth got several of your posts directed toward me deleted
a while back, but not before they were seen by me and quite a few other posters,
who have written you off as a bitter, nasty person with nothing to say other than
venomous insults.
I intend to ignore you completely from now on and hope you will extend me the
same courtesy!
[RiteCon] - 12:15pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#958 of 1135)
:-D
dunite [babblingbrook] - 12:24pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#959 of 1135)
Absolutely correct.....I did have some posts deleted...rightfully so since I had
descended to a level that I do not aspire to inhabit. It was a lapse in taste.......and I
have no quarrel with the deletions as I choose to take responsibility for
myself..Among other things I took away from my experience was not to respond to
'pack attacks'...I will however, state opinions from time to time......which you
obviously are free to ignore.
[_Liz_] - 12:31pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#960 of 1135)
Dave is a God.
Nothing like a good whine first thing in the morning, eh RC? It's so nice to come
back after a month's absence and see that some things are never ever going to
change. If y'all want to believe dave is the Anti Christ...really...how hurt do you
honestly think he is?
Dun! How are you????????
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:34pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#961 of 1135)
Liz: How can Dave be the antichrist when everyone knows perfectly well that it's
Clinton?
How you been, toots?
[_Liz_] - 12:35pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#962 of 1135)
Dun...what say you and I blow this joint and avoid the inevitable onslaught of odd
wisdom from our right thinking sisters who are about to go out of their way to
show us how genteel Republican women are? Make you a bet...I can ignore them
longer than you can and the loser has to buy the winners drinks in perpetuity.
Any good threads or are they still all about Clinton?
[_Liz_] - 12:37pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#963 of 1135)
{{{{GW}}}}
I've been good, doll! How have you been? What's shaking in your life?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:40pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#964 of 1135)
Dave's not the anti-Christ, he's the Christ....he walks on water...just ask him.
dunite [babblingbrook] - 12:46pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#965 of 1135)
HI Liz.......You been gone too long! It's a deal.......the bet, that is......(;-D
Just took an amble around the threads......pretty much SOS.....I'm on my way to a
'ride in the country' and the farmer's market........shall I pick you up some
goodies?BBL....
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:48pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#966 of 1135)
Liz: Nice to see you back.
What's new? Kids....marriage....the World Cup....the search for enlightenment.
(I'm not sure in what order.)
Yes, there are other threads besides the Clinton ones, but the Clinton threads are
where the fun is.
BTW, 2 weeks to go until August 17. Clinton's testimony promises to be more fun
than the Seinfeld finale.
[_Liz_] - 12:48pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#967 of 1135)
Oooh yes. I want some tomatoes and if you see any ripe apricots, I want some of
those too.
And thank you. *s*
Oh. Hey 'Bill'. *ggg* He has a really nice ass too.
[_Liz_] - 12:51pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#968 of 1135)
Yeah...but it's all such a waste of time. It will all boil down to he said/she said and
all this time and money will have been wasted.
In the end, he will admit to the affair, and alot of people will say aha!....and then
sit around wondering what to do next. It's going to be the anti climax of the
century.
Me...well, the kids are fine, so is the SO, and I got to talk to Lisa for two whole
hours today! I'm a happy camper.
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [nuckfewt] - 01:13pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#969 of 1135)
Dave,
I for one, applaud your efforts for putting a stop to those taking spoonerist
liberties with the names of some of the good people here. You have no idea how
some have taken my name and formed some rather obscene reconstructions. I'm
all for clever humor, but enough is enough.
Thank you again.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:18pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#970 of 1135)
nuckfewt: LOL!
But the mighty [Delete] key of Webmaster Dave even now looms over you, like a
giant shadow, getting ready to snuff out your cyber-existence........
Whoo-ha-ha-ha-ha......It will be as if you never existed......
Or perhaps you'll be reincarnated in another cyber-life, as:
[ILoveNewt]
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 01:20pm Aug 3, 1998 EST
(#971 of 1135)
Or FigNewt(on)!
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 01:23pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#972 of 1135)
This Just In!
Famous children's ventrilaquist Shari Lewis dead at age 65 of cancer!
Lambchops, asked about his reaction to his friend's death, was speechless!
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [nuckfewt] - 01:30pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#973 of 1135)
Well, my grandfather's name was Fewton. When he arrived at Ellis Island from
Pluto, they decided that it was too complicated a name and shortened it.
Ray: Aim low, boys, they're riding Shetland ponies. [wardaddy] -
01:32pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#974 of 1135)
Ouch!
[_Liz_] - 01:32pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#975 of 1135)
Lambchop, asked about his reaction to his friend's death was
speechless!<
Oh GAWD! That's so bad....
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [nuckfewt] - 01:32pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#976 of 1135)
God Bless Sari Lewis. She'll be missed by those who grew up with her humor and
talent for over 40 years.
[_Liz_] - 01:34pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#977 of 1135)
Hey Ray!
I was just chuckling at your 'Geraldo' bit.
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 01:36pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#978 of 1135)
I'm sorry guys, I just couldn't resist. I mean no ill feelings towards
Shari, or Lambchops, and I offer my condolences to her family,
friends, and fans. Hey! I used to watch her when I was a kid too, ya
know!
Ray: People who kill talk show hosts--on the last Jerry Springer
show [wardaddy] - 02:28pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#979 of 1135)
Dave
Boy, you Texicans will do anything just so you'll have something else to brag
about, won't you?
CNN just reported that trains in Texas have had to slow down. It's so hot that the
railroad tracks are warping.
[DaveGin] - 04:06pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#980 of 1135)
Mr. Fewt, your immigrant tale has touched my heart
But tough noogies. The name has to go.
Email me at time-host@pathfinder.com (or simply hit that button on the right
labeled Send E-Mail to Host) and I'll explain how you can continue to join us.
[DaveGin] - 04:10pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#981 of 1135)
Why, yes, Ray. As a matter of fact, we will
Though I'm a little concerned. It's still early summer here and I don't know what
we'll do when it finally gets hot.
Any space icy cold beer you have will be greatfully appreciated.
DaveGin
[masontwo] - 04:51pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#982 of 1135)
For DaveGin and family....with affection
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 04:52pm Aug 3, 1998 EST
(#983 of 1135)
I would like to thank Dave for forcing me to do some background checking on my
family name. My grandparents, and others, arrived on this planet on the
Flaymower to escape the religious persecution of their slave masters on Pluto.
The slave owning families, the Fewtons, the Fotts, the Farmeys, and the
Fobertsons took to their mind to convert their slave property to their new found
faith, Contrarianism. The basic tenets of that religion are to say one thing, do
another, and if anyone doesn't agree, call them athiests.
I've decided to follow a tradition of this planet and toss the yoke of oppression
and relinquish my slave name.
[DaveGin] - 04:59pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#984 of 1135)
My, Mason, but that does feel good
It's Day 37 of 100-degree weather down here. I really look forward to October
when it cools off to 92.
DaveGin
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 05:00pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#985 of 1135)
NuckX: You're an absolute pisser. I can forgive you your reprehensible politics
because of your sense of humor.
[DaveGin] - 05:04pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#986 of 1135)
A study of history will set you free, Brother NuckX
Congratulations on reclaiming your heritage.
DaveGin
[DaveGin] - 05:06pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#987 of 1135)
By golly, GW, you never cease to amaze me
I'll buy you that drink now. Hope you don't mind lukewarm Lone Star?
DaveGin
[redeye] - 05:09pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#988 of 1135)
A study of history will set you bree frother.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 05:15pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#989 of 1135)
Lukewarm Lone Star?
I don't mean to be a fussbudget, Dave, but would you have an ice-cold
Leinenkugel Red Lager?
Ray: People who kill talk show hosts--on the last Jerry Springer
show [wardaddy] - 05:29pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#990 of 1135)
Hey, Dave!
I'll have a Pearl-Pop wit' de foam on top. You such a good fran' wit' me, I buy you
wan too, I gawr-ron-tee.
Hoo, boy! It's hot down dere, no?
[DaveGin] - 05:39pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#991 of 1135)
Hotter than a pig in a pepper patch, Ray
Pearl Beer? Yee-Ha! When I was 15, Tommy Bright and I snuck out one Saturday,
drove 30 miles to Houston and got us a six-pack of Pearl. Dronk, you betch,
n'est-ce pas?
Next to Dixie and Jax, it may be the single most nasty beer in the world.
GW...Leinenkugel? What the hellis that?
How about a Moctezuma? Or some Bohemia? Tecate con limon? If I can get some
light, there may be an old Billy Beer back here in the cooler somewhere.
Nope, that's an old Pearl...
I'm looking. But I'm a little short of ice-cold anything? DaveGin
Ray: People who kill talk show hosts--on the last Jerry Springer
show [wardaddy] - 05:42pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#992 of 1135)
Hi, my name is Nicky, Wardaddy's sun conure. Ain't I a pretty bird? Oh, and Dave, Wardaddy
told me to ask you if you'd rather have a Carta Blanca?
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 07:39pm Aug 3, 1998 EST
(#993 of 1135)
A study of history will set you free, Brother NuckX
Thank you Dave. In the words of the great Plutonian poet/folk singer Dob Bylan,
"I ain't gonna work on Faggie's Marm no more."
PERJURY TRAP! [spagz] - 07:40pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#994 of 1135)
Dave--I will just send you lots of ice. The mrs. is,also, a Texican E.TX. She moved
here,IN PART,for a civilized summer.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:28pm Aug 3, 1998
EST (#995 of 1135)
Dave: Leinenkugel's is a family owned microbrewery in Chippewa Falls,
Wisconsin. They produce a variety of beers and ales, all of them superb (and
reasonably priced).
I'd be willing to try those beers you mentioned.
The only thing I'd rather not drink is mass-produced American beer like
Budweiser. When you know what good beer and ale tastes like, it's very tough to
go back to Budweiser.
Innocent little me... [SherrieG] - 10:14pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#996 of 1135)
TOP TEN SIGNS YOUR AMISH TEEN IS IN TROUBLE!!
10. Sometimes stays in bed after 6 a.m.
9. In his sock drawer, you find pictures of women without bonnets.
8. Shows up at barn raisings in full "Kiss" makeup.
7. When you criticize him, he yells, "Thou suck!"
6. His name is Jebediah, but he goes by "Jeb Daddy."
5. Defiantly says, "If I had a radio, I'd listen to rap."
4. You come upon his secret stash of colorful socks.
3. Uses slang expression: "Talk to the hand, cause the beard ain't listening."
2. Was recently pulled over for "driving under the influence of cottage cheese."
And the NUMBER ONE sign your Amish teen is in trouble:
1. He's wearing his big black hat backwards.
PERJURY TRAP! [spagz] - 10:35pm Aug 3, 1998 EST (#997 of 1135)
from mrs.spagz
I remember that weather well. Here's something to go with M2's weather-adapter
to create a cross-draft...
but from what my relatives say, these gadgets really don't move that HEAT.
So try somma' 'dis stuff!
Well, I'm signing off...letting the other half take over for awhile. see ya!
from mrs.spagz
SPEAKING OF MY OTHER HALF, he tells me that today is NATIONAL FRIENDSHIP
day. I wouldn't count on it affecting him too deeply, though...
[DaveGin] - 12:39am Aug 4, 1998 EST (#998 of 1135)
We get two for the price of one with the Spagz family
M'am, it's always a pleasure to meet another Texan.
DaveGin
[redeye] - 07:51am Aug 4, 1998 EST (#999 of 1135)
Sherrie
I only imagine you without your bonnet on.
[redeye] - 07:51am Aug 4, 1998 EST (#999 of 1135)
Sherrie
I only imagine you without your bonnet on.
[Rich Pasma] - 09:55am Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1000 of 1135)
As far as some of the discussion about the brand name of beers goes, I conducted
a taste test at company picnic that produced some interesting results.
In this test there were approximately 60 participants, that to the best of my
knowledge were sober, being that the only alcoholic beverage that was served at
the picnic, was limited to the taste test.
Ten different types of beers were used in the test. There were three domestic
(Bud, Coors, and Miller), two rot gut ones (Lucky and Flagstaff), two domestic
specialty beers (Henry Wienhart and Lowenbrau), and three imported beers (
Corona, Molsen, and Sapporo).
The samples given were approximately one ounce in size. Saltine crackers and
water was provided to each taster between each of the samples.
In the end the winner of this taste test only got three correct selections and was
a secretary that had absolutely no interest in beer. The prize was a case of beer
containing a selection of imported beers.
This taste test was done 18 years ago and was a just for the fun of it thing so I do
not recall the specific details about the results. What I do remember was that
people thinking they were knowledgeable about the taste of beer being way off
the mark regarding the answers provided. As far as providing any meaningful
information, none was produced, but the people participating had a great deal of
fun.
RP,
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:01am Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1001 of 1135)
Rich
I read about a similar taste test using 1000 beer drinkers and about 30 beers. The
winner, out of the finest beers in the world, was Old Milwaukee!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:17pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1002 of 1135)
Melanie and Rich: I've heard of similar taste tests for beers. The people tested
could not have been real beer connoisseurs.
There's all the difference in the world between, say, the rich, hoppy flavor of a
Samuel Adams brew and the carbonated, flavorless impression left by swill like
Old Milwaukee.
[jollyollie] - 01:27pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1003 of 1135)
Old Mil... THE beer for people who really hate beer...
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 01:37pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1004 of 1135)
I thought Old Milwaukee was brewed for those who drink it by the case at one
NASCAR race sitting.
She came in through the bathroom window! [CooterBrown] - 01:49pm
Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1005 of 1135)
It just happens to be rated the best domestic beer by Consumer Reports.
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 01:59pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1006 of 1135)
They must have limited their survey to NASCAR fans.
[jollyollie] - 02:02pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1007 of 1135)
I'm a Nascar fan, and Old Mil, wouldn't win any contest with me...
VRWC member #69 [vettman] - 02:04pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1008 of 1135)
Old Mil followed by two convenience store hot dogs with Chili and nacho cheese.
Not a better laxative made in the world.
If I remember back to my college days, isn't old mil bottom of the barrell
Strohs's?
[DaveGin] - 04:20pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1009 of 1135)
I guess I'm just a sucker for a sweet story like this
One night a wife found her husband standing over their baby's crib. Silently she
watched him. As he stood looking down at the sleeping infant, she saw on his
face a mixture of emotions: disbelief, doubt, delight, amazement, enchantment,
skepticism.
Touched by this unusual display and the deep emotions it aroused, with eyes
glistening she slipped her arm around her husband.
"A penny for your thoughts," she said.
"It's amazing!" he replied. "I just can't see how anybody can make a crib like that
for only $46.50."
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:34pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1010 of 1135)
Dave: Shame on you for perpetuating the myth that all husbands are insensitive
dolts. Some of us are caring, sensitive dolts.
ollie: I have all the respect in the world for you, but I'm incapable of watching
NASCAR for more than 2 nanoseconds.
And Old Milwaukee? It's so bad, it's the stuff legends are made of.
But wait! There's something even worse...............Old Milwaukee Light.
My transverse colon twitches at the mere mention of the name.
[DaveGin] - 04:48pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1011 of 1135)
Hear, hear, GW
Once all those cars go around the first curve, I'm wondering what, "What the
hey...?" It's like watching grass grow. Only louder.
On Milwaukee Light: Once, at Wrigley Field - before they put in lights - I sat in
the third-base bleachers, drinking Heilman's with the other sports fans,
watching the Cubs lose another one.
A high pop-up rose in the sky, heading foul on the third-base side. In that
inexorable geometry of baseballs, it arced down towards our seats, striking a fan
in the head while he was in the act of drinking an Old Milwaukee.
A voice from the stands cried out, See, even God hates that crap."
We all cheered and ordered another Heilman's. Who'se going to order with Divine
Intervention?
DaveGin
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 04:55pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1012 of 1135)
Dave: LOL! Serves him right for drinking that swamp water.
About 10 years ago, I drove my family to St. Louis on Dec. 24th to spend Christmas
with relatives. We drove about 12 hours through a blinding snow storm. We
couldn't stop for dinner because every place was closed for Christmas Eve.
All I could think about for the last 4 hours of the trip was a tall cold one. When
we arrived, my father in law offered me an Old Milwaukee Light.
I took one sip and discreetly poured it down the sink.
Far Left, Ultra Liberal, Politically Correct [Panama Hank] - 05:04pm
Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1013 of 1135)
Old Milwaukee, the beer for those who prefer to bypass the digestive tract.
Ray: People who kill pompous TV pundits-on CNN's Crossfire tonight!
[wardaddy] - 05:23pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1014 of 1135)
NASCAR?
Sheesh, roundy-roundy racing, I hate it! Give me road racing like Watkins Glen
or Formula 1, races with real cars, real drivers, and real skill and drama. Those
guys gotta learn to turn left and right and plan ahead for the turn beyond the
next one. But take 'em out of Monaco and any other city.
Now, pass the Grey Poupon, please.
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 05:29pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1015 of 1135)
I wish they could build a big 40 lane, 200 mile straight race course, with cameras
every 10 miles. 'Cause all this who's lapped who and all that makes my brain hurt.
How do they keep up with that anyway?
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 05:40pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1016 of 1135)
Old Milwaukee rules! Not only did our judges find Old Milwaukee to be
the best beer in its class, so did Consumer Report's beer judges in
last year's study.
Thus spake The Main Event beer taste contest holders.
Beer snobbery aside....Old Mil is a consistent taste winner! Of course I don't now
why I care, since I don't like any beer to begin with, but the facts should be made
public!
[jollyollie] - 06:06pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1017 of 1135)
Had an Uncle who raced SC's and Sprints... been hooked every since... Gotta get
me to a Winston Cup race one day, but rest assured, I won't be sipping on an Old
Mil....
Ray: All right, who put the "blow" in blowjob? [wardaddy] - 06:07pm
Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1018 of 1135)
Just a note, if looks could kill, Webb Hubbell would have a body count worse than
the Black Plague of the 13th-14th century.
Old Milwaukee rules!
[jollyollie] - 06:15pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1019 of 1135)
Olympia Genuine Draft, purchasable here... 5.5 % alcohol is a very nice US
domestic beer.
Ray: Non illegitimus carborundum est [wardaddy] - 06:23pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1020 of 1135)
Something that has been bothering me for several years is the humongous legal
fees that anyone who is a subject to an Independent Counsel investigation incur
(I know, if they weren't guilty of something, they didn't need a lawyer).
I dont particularly care one way or the other about George Stephanopoulis. To
me, hes kind of like my coffee table-I have one but I dont worry about it. He got
caught in the crossfire, so to speak, and hes out thousands of dollars.
Why doesnt Congress pass a law that provides attorneys for those who become
targets? If were going to have an Independent Counsel, why dont we pay for the
attorneys for a Stephanopoulis? Or Clinton, for that matter? I dont like him and I
really am disturbed with Hillarys ethics as a lawyer, but why should they become
impoverished by this investigation?
Jolly
Hamm's ain't bad, either.
[jollyollie] - 06:30pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1021 of 1135)
On GW's recommendation, I tried a Sam Adams in Tenn. Excellent! A Toronto
colleague of mine, who loves beer a lot more than I do, I convinced to try as well.
He thought it one of the best he ever tasted.
Ray: Non illegitimus carborundum est [wardaddy] - 06:36pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1022 of 1135)
I saw something on the tag end of CNN's news just now that put a lump in my
throat. A 15 year old Nicaraguan boy with bone cancer, a resident alien, was
afraid that he wouldn't live to see his family become American citizens. He wrote
the Make a Wish Foundation and Immigration swore him in as an American
citizen today.
[DaveGin] - 06:42pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1023 of 1135)
Ray, your post on the burden of legal fees is a good one.
Ive added my response HERE.
Maybe those who also want to respond can go there too.
DaveGin
I'm really not a lawyer, but I can't prove it. [CooterBrown] - 06:48pm
Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1024 of 1135)
When I tried Samuel Adams, I knew that there was something familiar about it.
The next time my tom cat took a leak, I knew..........
[jollyollie] - 06:51pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1025 of 1135)
LOL
Ray: Non illegitimus carborundum est [wardaddy] - 06:51pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1026 of 1135)
Dave
I tried your link and got the dreaded "Post with no date."
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 06:53pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1027 of 1135)
It reminds me of the famous pitcher, John Malfamie. He played for the Old
Brooklyn Dodgers. He had a ritual. Between every inning he'd down an Old
Milwaulkee.
Each inning he'd pop some suds, and each inning he got stronger and stronger.
He held the National League record for 9th inning strike outs from a starter.
One day, on a road trip to St. Louis, the manager sent the bat boy out to pick up a
couple of six packs, for Malfamie was pitching that day. The bat boy went to three
different liquor stores and none stocked Old Milwaulkee. With 10 minutes before
game time, the bat boy did the only thing he could think of, and bought two sixes
of Schlitz.
Well Malfamie was off to a good start giving up a single in the first, with a strike
out, and the getting the third batter hitting into a double play, with a low inside
fastball.
The Bums held a two-nothing lead, and Malfamie drank his Schlitz, but
something was amiss. Good fielding got him through the second through fifth
innings and the Dodgers led three to 1.
By the seventh inning, Malfamie could barely stand up, but the manager hoped
for the usual Malfamie comeback. At the end of the eigth, Malfamie had given up
a personal record by walking six batters and a low record of only five strikeouts.
The Dodgers still held a three to two lead going to the bottom of the ninth.
Malfamie walked the first batter. Staggering at the mound, he was called for a
balk on the second and third batter. Everyone held their breath as the Cardinals
pither came to the plate. Ball one, ball two, ball three, ball four. The Cardinals
won that game.
When asked for a comment after the game, the ST. Louis pitcher waked up to the
mike, and told it like it was.
Schlitz, the beer that made Malfamie Walk Us.
[DaveGin] - 06:56pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1028 of 1135)
I like Irish beer. I like Mexican beers. All of them, even El Pacifico. There's even
a Guatemalan beer (El Gallo) that's not too bad. .
And, let's face it...while we're sitting in the stands watching a ball game or
maybe cooking meat over coals or mowing the yard, we're not looking for the
heady aroma and good color, the spritely feel or some nervous little
thoroughbred of a beer.
We want something cold, wet and substantial. And a Bud or a Schlitz or a Miller
does just fine. Even a Lone Star. At least before Heilman ruined it.
But not a Falstaff. And Not Old Milwaukee. Or Pearl. There are limits. Even for
beer drinkers.
DaveGin
[jollyollie] - 06:56pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1029 of 1135)
Tough Schlitz I spose!
[jollyollie] - 06:59pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1030 of 1135)
I might be weird, strike... I am weird... cold US Coors in a can... mmmmmmm
[DaveGin] - 06:59pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1031 of 1135)
Well, I'll be damned, Ray. Me too
It should be fixed now. Or just go to the "Treason, high crimes and misdemeanors"
thread.
And, Nuck, I think puns are the lowest form of humor. Good job!
DaveGin
Ray: Non illegitimus carborundum est [wardaddy] - 07:08pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1032 of 1135)
Dave
I saw it when I was over there. Good post.
NiCad [Nigel Cadwalader] - 07:52pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1033 of 1135)
Weirdest bottled beer I've ever had: Cave Creek Chili Beer
Best bottled beer I've ever had: Grimbergen Triple
Happiest I've ever been in my life: while sober.
[masontwo] - 08:21pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1034 of 1135)
Wardaddy.....should go to the Parrot Island webpage...they have pictures of
pottery parrot steins ...colorful. (And boxer shorts for sale with parrots on them)
[14Adams] - 08:26pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1035 of 1135)
God is in the suds business.. he oversees operations at the Wild Goose Brewery on
Maryland's Eastern Shore. I can think of no other explanation for the quality of
this product IMHO...rlp
Ray: Mohammar Khadaffi has sand in hhis drawers--no wonder he's
so mean. [wardaddy] - 09:19pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1036 of 1135)
mason
Thanks. Have a URL?
And as for the parrot-boxer shorts, nix mit dem Boxer schließt, ich tragen
stricken Boxeren kurz (nix with the boxer shorts, I wear knit boxers).
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 09:59pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1037 of 1135)
Pete's Wicked Summer, great lager. Pete's Wicked Winter, a nice touch of nutmeg.
Don't you folks have any brewpubs?
Ray: Mohammar Khadaffi has sand in hhis drawers--no wonder he's
so mean. [wardaddy] - 10:11pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1038 of 1135)
NuckX
In a rural Mississippi town of less than 4,000 people, are you kidding? We used to
have some moonshiners who made some eye-popping white lightning, but
Governor Tall Paul Johnson made the legistaure pass legislation making this a
wet state in the 60s so....
(Gotta go, now, the bratwurst is almost ready, the onions are diced and the
sauerkraut is ready to put on the toasted buns.)
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 10:17pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1039 of 1135)
Wardaddy,
I have a friend who pisses off his wife once a year. Before she can buy the mason
jars, he gets all the rasberries and brews this wonderful ale. I'm spoiled. I don't
want to decide whether I'd rather have donkey piss strained through a sweat
sock or love on the beach:-)
BTW, in the hills of West Virginny, in Morgantown, there's a great brewpub.
About 5 varieties of homegrown at a buck and a half a pop.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 10:31pm Aug 4, 1998
EST (#1040 of 1135)
Cooter: What you're reacting to in Samuel Adams is the flavor of the hops, a
slightly bitter taste. Your crappy American beers use hops grown on a vacant lot
somewhere.
There's one of the Samuel Adams ales--I think it's the one they brew around
Christmastime--where they use chocolate malt in the brewing. You can taste it in
the ale. Mmmm!
But for my money, the best brew going is Leinenkugel's, whether it's their
Auburn Ale or their Red Lager, or any of their 10 other brews. Try a Leinie, and
let me know if you like it.
VRWC Member # 2.71828182846... [HansonRC] - 11:22pm Aug 4, 1998 EST
(#1041 of 1135)
Beer: Gotta be in a bottle and its gotta be cold!
Favorites: Negro Modello, Old Australian Stout, Sheif's Stout, Lindemann's Kriek,
most any Heifeweissen (get to play with one's food here!), and anything by
Pete's, any of the Black Dog ales (local brand). But, if it is cold and in a bottle,
then it will be good (unless it is Sami Klaus).
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 11:23pm
Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1042 of 1135)
Oh, christ, don't say Negro, Tony will be in here raising hell all night.
[masontwo] - 11:24pm Aug 4, 1998 EST (#1043 of 1135)
The Corona Toucan Stein, 10 3/4" tall and 20 ounce capacity, is sculpted in a full
figural format. It is a limited edition of 5,000 pieces. Each stein is registered and
individually numbered.
Kevorkian for WH Physician [TomBurt] - 09:55am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1044 of
1135)
DaveGin,
Ever had Dixie beer? It's perfect for tailgate parties, cheap, cold, strong, what
more could you ask for?
Ray: People who kill pompous TV pundits--on Crossfire tonight!
[wardaddy] - 11:06am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1045 of 1135)
I watched the Burton hearing yesterday with FBI Director freeh and former DOJ
attorney Labella,both of whom recommended that Janet Reno appoint an
independent counsel to investigate alleged campaign finance problems. Both
strongly advised (almost begged) Burton not to force Reno to provide the memos
to Burton's committee. I agree with Freeh and Labella and sent the following
email to my congressman and cc'd my two senators, Thad Cochran and Trent Lott.
I urge all of you who agree with me to do the same.
[Your name, address and telephone number]
Roger,
I watched Rep/ Burton's hearing to day with FBI Director Freeh, Mr. Labella
(sp?) and another man. They all cautioned Burton not to force Janet Reno to turn
over their memos recommending appointment of an independent counsel to
investigate the campaign funding scandal. Their reasoning is compelling-it
would alert the targets of the evidence on them that has been uncovered and
help them avoid prosecution.
To force Reno to turn the memos over to the committee, which is about as leak
free as a sieve, is in itself a crime.
Stop Burton!
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:13am Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1046 of 1135)
Burn Babies Burn!
93%Liberal [QGrayson] - 11:18am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1047 of 1135)
Mr. Bill
--- I'm not sure I understand the meaning of your "Burn Babies Burn!" Perhaps
you could explain what it means? You're not suggesting that someone should
'burn babies' are ya? ---
[masontwo] - 11:37am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1048 of 1135)
Wardaddy.....did you see your URL for the parrot beer stein I posted last nite?
And, why are your chosen handles always preoccupied with death, violence or
cruelty to animals? Isn't you regular handle enough?
Your free choice of course.....
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:43am Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1049 of 1135)
Burn Babies Burn!.....Waco!
[jollyollie] - 11:47am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1050 of 1135)
Ray, I watched that too. They (Freeh and Labella) said that the public and the
media only are aware of maybe "1%" of all they have. Doesn't look good for
someone. Still very strange, no I/C.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:50am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1051 of 1135)
Strange? Hardly. This is going to make all the other crimes pale in comparison!
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:50am Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1052 of 1135)
Doesn't LOOK GOOD for UNO WHO, including AL Bore, our next Prez.
[TomBurt] - 11:54am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1053 of 1135)
Melanie,
I agree, these are the most serious accusations to be leveled against our esteemed
leader ( and I use the terms esteemed and leader in the loosest sense) yet. Small
wonder Reno is dragging her feet. Look what happened to LaBella, of course
we're supposed to believe it's purely coincidental that he was passed over.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:57am Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1054 of 1135)
Never have so many coincidences occurred to so many people in history! LOL
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 11:59am Aug 5, 1998 EST
(#1055 of 1135)
An interesting full bodied brew, with a slight aftertaste of bong water.
I'm really not a lawyer, but I can't prove it. [CooterBrown] - 11:59am
Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1056 of 1135)
Now I like Pete's beers and ales a lot. Everything all depends on what you want
out of your beer as far as taste goes.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:59am Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1057 of 1135)
Burn Babies Burn!.........WACO!
[TomBurt] - 12:11pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1058 of 1135)
NuckX,
hahahaha, I almost choked, but how do you know what bong water tastes like?
LOL.
American Spectator Enemy of the Week [NuckX] - 12:14pm Aug 5, 1998 EST
(#1059 of 1135)
I almost choked, but how do you know what bong water tastes like?
I was told by unnamed sources close to the investigation, on background:-)
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 12:17pm Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1060 of 1135)
"An aftertaste of bong water..."
Nuck: You are a caution.
I was always an EZ Wider man myself, back in my hippie-dippy days.
[TomBurt] - 12:19pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1061 of 1135)
NuckX,
Ok, Ok, admit it, Bill didn't inhale, he just drank the water and he's your source,
right?
Ray: People who kill pompous TV pundits--on Crossfire tonight!
[wardaddy] - 12:54pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1062 of 1135)
masontwo
Yes, thanks. I saw the link but forgot to bookmark it. Do you remember the post
number so I can book mark it?
As to your second question, my nick is one that I've had since early 1971. I'm a
retired Marine and the nick is a natural for me.
As for my tags, I am puzzled. One refers to a very humorous quote about the
Gerald show where people have been know to riot and break the host's nose. I
change around to keep it from becoming boring.
The only tag that I use that includes animals comes from the title of one of Lewis
Grizzard's books. It came from a movies ("Blazing Saddles"?). Lewis Griazzard was
a noted southern humorist/columnist. It would take quite a stretch to think that
that one alludes to cruelty to animals.
Oops! There is another about Weedeaters and cats. That is another phrase from
Lewis Grizzard and is a typical example of southern humor.
Again, thanks for the link. I'll keep looking for it.
[masontwo] - 01:22pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1063 of 1135)
Parrot stein....#1057....
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:22pm Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1064 of 1135)
Dave.....the boards are rather slow today....too much traffic because of all the
news about the Clinton scandals?
[DaveGin] - 01:28pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1065 of 1135)
These things are cyclic, Bill.
Sometimes it's because of heavy traffic. Or sometimes the key topics of the
moments - the Dress, say -- have run out of steam because of no new information.
And, unlike the TV talking heads, we don't have to fill space with nonsense.
But the real reason, I think, that board activity fluctuates is because peoples'
lives ebb and flo. Work or family interferes <g> and takes time away from the
computer.
Or maybe it's just a gloriously beautiful day somewhere, they'd rather be outside,
reading a book, drinking coffee, talking to a friend face to face.
They'll be back, though. We pump addictive chemicals through the computers.
DaveGin
Ray: Who put the "blow" in blowjob? [wardaddy] - 01:43pm Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1066 of 1135)
masontwo
Got it. Thanks.
Try this link for one of the most powerful search engine programs that I've ever
seen. I call it a program because it uses 10 search engines at the same tiem. It
gives as many as 500 hits at one time for the trial software. I'm registering it
today, so I may find that the registered version gives more hits tham that.
Ray: Who put the "blow" in blowjob? [wardaddy] - 02:13pm Aug 5, 1998
EST (#1067 of 1135)
Check out the picture on the web!
I thought everyone might like to see this....
Time Magazine reports an interesting case of high-tech graffiti. It seems that a
couple of Intel engineers working on the design of a recent version of the
Pentium microprocessor included a message that describes their feelings about
Bill Gates, president of Microsoft, a good corporate pal of Intel's.
When a portion of the Pentium chip is examined under a powerful scanning
electron microscope, the phrase "bill sux" is clearly visible, etched into the
surface of the chip. The "flaw" in the chip was only discovered by accident well
after the chip was released into the market, too late for Intel to prevent the chip
from being used in the manufacture of tens of thousands of PCs.
Intel says that both engineers responsible were former employees of Motorola,
makers of the chips that are the heart of the Apple Macintosh.
Both engineers have since been fired by Intel. Full picture at this URL
Ray: In the south, we eat every part of the hog but the squeal, and
we save that for mommas whose babies don't cry [wardaddy] - 05:41pm
Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1068 of 1135)
No. We're not over it. Down here, we're still convinced we'll win the WAWAH OF
YANKEE AGRESHUN
Getting the Story Straight:
When a man in Macon, Georgia came upon a wild dog attacking a young boy, he
quickly grabbed the animal and throttled it with his bare hands.
A reporter saw the incident, congratulated the man and told him the headline the
following day would read, "Local Man Saves Child by Killing Vicious Animal."
The hero, however, told the journalist that he wasn't from Macon.
"Well, then," the reporter said, "the headline will probably say, 'Georgia Man
Saves Child by Killing Dog.' "
"Actually," the man said, "I'm from Connecticut."
"In that case," the reporter said in a huff, "the headline will read, ' Yankee Kills
Family Pet.' "
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 10:08pm
Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1069 of 1135)
Hey Mr. Russell --
For your information, intoning the phrase burn babies burn does nothing but
remind us of that pedophiliac megalomaniac, David Koresh, who got exactly what
he deserved and was too hip slick and cool to allow the women and children to
leave.
My only regret about the whole incident is that it didn't happen three weeks
earlier.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:13pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1070 of 1135)
Sherrie
What court found David Koresh guilty of pedophilia?
dunite [babblingbrook] - 10:27pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1071 of 1135)
......I do believe there was testimony regarding Mr. Koresh's penchant for young
flesh.....unfortunately, he didn't survive to be tried......maybe that's why he
torched the place.
It is interesting to see who you think deserves a fair hearing & who you would
happily deprive of one.
I'm really not a lawyer, but I can't prove it. [CooterBrown] - 10:34pm
Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1072 of 1135)
Testimony in what?
dunite [babblingbrook] - 10:59pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1073 of 1135)
Memory says this came up in the subsequent Davidian trials......but a cursory look
at newspaper articles reveals that Koresh's 'legitimate' wife was 14 when they
married. Reports also indicate that he fathered a number of children. Michelle
Jones, who died, age 18, was reportedly the mother of 3 children by Koresh. Aisha
Summers, 17, had at least one child by him.....I'd say this qualifies him as a
pedophile.
[DaveGin] - 11:08pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1074 of 1135)
Cooter,
The House held hearings on Waco, in which the GOP majority paraded witnesses
and former Davidians to talk about what a wonderful guy Ol' Dave was and how he
had been so misunderstood.
The Dems put on a 15 year old girl who had been picked as one of Koresh's young
wives when she was 13. It was an honor to carry his seed.
He also took the wife of his second-in-command as another of his "wives."
Don't know about your church, Cooter, but taking children as sex partners and
stockpiling automatic rifles was never part of my spiritual training.
DaveGin
Ray: My kitchen is so small if you cussed a cat in it, you'd get hair in
your mouth [wardaddy] - 11:13pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1075 of 1135)
I'll give that dude a blowjob that he won't foregt!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 11:14pm Aug 5, 1998 EST (#1076 of 1135)
Dave
Do you have a problem with due process of the law, or do you ascribe to the burn
'em first and then see if you can find evidence that they are guilty type of
*justice*?
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 12:20am
Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1077 of 1135)
Isn't that what you have been proposing as fit treatment for the president of the
United States for MONTHS now?
David Koresh (or Vernon Armpit, or WHATEVER the hell his real name was) died
entirely too late.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:23am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1078 of 1135)
Not at all, Sherrie. But are you suggesting that it is all right to execute some
people without a trial based on circumstantial evidence?
[MadCyberPoet] - 12:24am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1079 of 1135)
"Do you have a problem with due process of the law"
That's so ironic coming from another right winger who has announced the
President guilty without due process.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:28am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1080 of 1135)
mcp
Where do you get those silly ideas? We just want POTUS to stop acting guilty and
let the investigation continue in order to determine if there is evidence of a
crime.
So are you one of those who feels the gassing and burning of 80 men, women and
children is okay if you think that maybe one of them is a pedophile?
[MadCyberPoet] - 12:31am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1081 of 1135)
No, I think that the ATF was out of control. They had been since Reagen made
them that way.
I think its also interesting that things like this happened before WACO, but the
right wingers did not care until it was white Christians.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:34am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1082 of 1135)
What other instances of similar type happened before Waco? I don't remember
any.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:35am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1083 of 1135)
I have never defended David Koresh. My point is that the situation should have
been handled much differently.
Anyone in legitimate law enforcement would NOT have done it that way, where
the lives of innocent people were in jeopardy, and especially so many children, I
believe more than twenty who died.
Janet, to her credit, took full responsibility, which indicates that even she
thought it was badly handled.
But she DID approve the operation. Perhaps she was mislead, but did any heads
roll?
The FBI and ATF were clearly wrong in what they did.
[masontwo] - 12:36am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1084 of 1135)
Philadelphia...Move was one ....When was that, before Reagan....I don't remember.
[MadCyberPoet] - 12:38am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1085 of 1135)
1985.
There is also the massive stripping away of civial rights in the drug war. The
DEA's come crashing down on a lot of people and shot them all to hell with no
good cause.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:43am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1086 of 1135)
And you think the right wing is in favor of that kind of action? Of course that is
still not similar to Waco where American citizens were living in peace,
unconvicted of breaking any laws and still executed without trial.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:43am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1087 of 1135)
There have been some instances since Waco, which were handled with kid
gloves, because of so much criticism about Waco. And they were handled without
loss of life, to the credit of the law enforcement officials.
This makes me think they DID learn from Waco.
But Waco happened on Janet's watch, and she did approve the plan, which she
now seems to regret.
I guess she was out of her league, when it came to the best way to handle the
Koresh problem.
[MadCyberPoet] - 12:45am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1088 of 1135)
"Of course that is still not similar to Waco where American citizens were living in
peace"
Go read up on MOVE. Its the same.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:48am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1089 of 1135)
I'll look it up. So, does that make Waco okay? What is it with liberals that if they
can find any precedent, they feel they should get a pass on any behavior? What
about learning from history?
[Mr. Serious Summer] - 12:52am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1090 of 1135)
Dave,
I'm getting frustrated trying to read through the threads to find some actual
seri-ous content. So I modestly suggest the "Serious Rating System". Threads
should be given a ranking according to bizarreness of their concept.
I suggest using BLACK HELICOPTERS instead of stars. The more BLACK
HELICOPTERS (as indicated by little black emblems representing the outline of
BLACK HELICOPTERS) assigned to a thread, the more prone the thread is to bizarre
unproven conspiracy theories. This way I could skip all the threads ranked at
three (3) or more BLACK HELICOPTERS and concentrate on the threads where
some seri-ous discussion was going on. It's be a great time saver for me and any
other poster who likes to preserve the pretense of rationality.
BTW, any thread making a comparison of one side's actions to the Nazi's or
discussing Vince Foster's "Murder" would automatically rank FIVE BLACK
HELICOPTERS, the highest achievement (so to speak) possible.
Respectfully yours,
Seri
[MadCyberPoet] - 12:54am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1091 of 1135)
'What is it with liberals that if they can find any precedent, they feel they
should get a pass on any behavior?
What is it with right-wingers who always have to lump everyone in the same
category? I'm about as far to the left as you can get but I think that what
happened at Waco was horrible. Like I said, the ATF was out of control. But, David
Koresh deserves as much blame for it as anybody else. He was a cult leader,
pedophile, and general nut case.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:58am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1092 of 1135)
mcp
You cannot, or at least should not, condone the execution of anyone without due
process of law. Cult leader and nutcase are not crimes. Pedophile was never
proven in a court of law.
If we permit a society where *justice* can be dispensed based on rumor and
innuendo as opposed to legal processes we will have gone so far backward that
we should just move back into caves.
[MadCyberPoet] - 01:01am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1093 of 1135)
I did not condone the "execution without due process". I said that I think he
deserveres as much blame for what happened as the ATF.
Ray: My kitchen is so small if you cussed a cat in it, you'd get hair in
your mouth [wardaddy] - 01:02am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1094 of 1135)
Poet
I'm in the middle of this whole thing and the left is just as guilty of what you
accuse the right of doing. Neither side can accuse the other of more ridiculous
accustations.
Do you people realize just how ridiculous you really look?
LindaLu - just left of center [mcpatlin] - 01:10am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1095 of
1135)
You cannot, or at least should not, condone the execution of
anyone without due process of law. Cult leader and nutcase are not
crimes. Pedophile was never proven in a court of law.
If we permit a society where *justice* can be dispensed based on
rumor and innuendo as opposed to legal processes we will have
gone so far backward that we should just move back into caves.
Gee Mel, does this apply to Clinton as well???
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:25am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1096 of 1135)
The bottom line is that the U.S. Government threw out the babies (and others)
with the Koresh bath water.
A sad day in our history, a sad day for our Constitutional form of Government and
a sad for the DOJ, a part of the Executive branch.
The President is ultimately responsible for what his political appointees do.
Clinton let Janet take the full blame.
He offered no apology for those who died.
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 01:29am
Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1097 of 1135)
Those who died did so at the will of David Koresh, Vernon whoever. NOT Bill
Clinton.
And exactly how long had Janet Reno been in office when this asshole decided to
stand against the country?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:49am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1098 of 1135)
Dave, bad word alert....above, Cherry, or Sherrie or Mary......whomever.
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 01:55am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1099 of 1135)
Sherrie!
Have you seen, WACO Rules of Engagement, an academy award nominated film?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 01:55am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1100 of 1135)
Bill Clinton bears responsibilty to uphold the Constitution and enforce the laws
of the land. He took an oath of office to do that.
Burn Babies Burn!!!!!!
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 02:09am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1101 of 1135)
LindaLu
Has anyone fire bombed Clinton?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 02:09am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1102 of 1135)
Sgt, tell us more about the movie. Is it on tape?
Don't Worry! Be Happy! [SGTTAG] - 02:17am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1103 of 1135)
Yes it is Bill!
I haven't seen it myself, but I've heard a lot about it on various and sundry talk
radio shows. It's just a little movie which explores the truth about WACO, and I
don't think Janet Reno would care to much for it.
They even use flare video to show the feds shooting into the compound from
helicopters, which they denied!
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 02:17am
Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1104 of 1135)
Hey Mel,
Now that Secret Service has been compromised, I look for a serious attempt the
second his poll numbers go down.
Before that if David Bossie can't keep Dan Burton in bed.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 02:20am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1105 of 1135)
How has the Secret Service been compromised Sherrie?
I'm really not a lawyer, but I can't prove it. [CooterBrown] - 07:26am
Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1106 of 1135)
First, I haven't defended Koresh, or whatever his name is. I asked a simple
question. Forget it.
Second, that stuff about the SS is White House tripe. It shows the desparation of
the Clinton camp.
Third, I agree with Seri. My participation on some threads has ceased because of
the lack of any substantive discussion at all. There are some threads out there
that would be hilarious if the people who started them weren't so serious. Some
have been started by people who have no clue as to what they are talking about.
Sheesh!
[DaveGin] - 08:54am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1107 of 1135)
DP
[DaveGin] - 08:56am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1108 of 1135)
So far, we're at four black helicopters and rising...
Waco was, indeed, a tragedy. The ATF's initial raid was horribly flawed and badly
executed. The resulting end of the FBI seige was equally flawed.
Let's not forget, Mel, that the due process of law was underway when Koresh's
followers opened up on the ATF agents at the door attempting serve a search
warrant. Do you remember that four agents died that day?
But for God's sake, Mel, let's not make a hero out of David Koresh. This was not some
peaceful group of Christians quietly preparing for Sunday services.
There had been a running gunbattle between two factions of this group in Waco
only a few years before. There is ample evidence they were stockpiling weapons
and explosives. There is ample evidence FROM THE DAVIDIANS THEMSELVES that
Koresh took 13 year old girls as his "brides" and had set himself up at God.
And there is compelling evidence that the Davidians set the fires in the midst of the
ill-advised FBI assault on the compound.
If we want to continue this discussion on Waco, let's take it to a more appropriate
board. There is one, I believe, on the Conspiracy board, which is only two mouse
clicks away.
DaveGin DaveGin
[redeye] - 08:58am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1109 of 1135)
Which are the threads that serious has started?
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:26am Aug 6, 1998 EST
(#1110 of 1135)
Melanie: Of all the people discussing the Waco business, you've got the best handle
on it. Your comments deserve repeating:
You cannot, or at least should not, condone the execution of anyone without due
process of law. Cult leader and nutcase are not crimes. Pedophile was never proven
in a court of law.
If we permit a society where *justice* can be dispensed based on rumor and
innuendo as opposed to legal processes we will have gone so far backward that we
should just move back into caves.
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 09:33am Aug
6, 1998 EST (#1111 of 1135)
HOW TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY LEVEL OF INSANITY IN THE WORKPLACE
1. Page yourself over the intercom. Don't disguise your voice.
2. Find out where your boss shops and buy exactly the same outfits. Wear them one
day after your boss does. This is especially effective if your boss is of a different
gender.
3. Make up nicknames for all your coworkers and refer to them only by these
names. "That's a good point, Sparky." "No, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to
disagree with you there, Cha-cha."
4. Send e-mail to the rest of the company telling them exactly what you're doing.
For example: "If anyone needs me, I'll be in the bathroom."
5. Hi-Lite your shoes. Tell people you haven't lost them as much since you did this.
6. While sitting at your desk, soak your fingers in Palmolive liquid. Call everyone
Madge.
7. Hang mosquito netting around your cubicle. When you emerge to get coffee or a
printout or whatever, slap yourself randomly the whole way.
8. Put a chair facing a printer. Sit there all day and tell people you're waiting for
your document.
9. Every time someone asks you to do something, anything, ask him or her if they
want fries with that.
10. Send e-mail back and forth to yourself engaging yourself in an intellectual
debate. Forward the mail to a co-worker and ask her to settle the disagreement.
11. Encourage your colleagues to join you in a little synchronized chair-dancing.
12. Put your trashcan on your desk. Label it 'IN'.
13. Feign an unnatural and hysterical fear of staplers.
14. Send e-mail messages saying there's free pizza or donuts or cake in the
lunchroom. When people drift back to work complaining that they found none,
lean back, pat your stomach and say "Oh, you've got to be faster than that!".
15. Put decaf in the coffeemaker for three weeks. Once everyone has withdrawn
from a caffeine addiction, switch to espresso.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 09:37am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1112 of 1135)
"There's all the difference in the world between, say, the rich, hoppy flavor of a
Samuel Adams brew and the carbonated, flavorless impression left by swill like
Old Milwaukee."
GW, I assure you, as beer snobs go, there are none more snobby than I.
Granted, Old Milwaukee is properly classified as megabeer. As such, it has less
flavor and less body than the pricier, trendier craft beers. But Old Milwaukee is
not flavorless. It has more malt and hop flavor than Bud (and Bud Light), Miller
(and Miller Lite) and Coors (and Coors Light). As American Lagers go, it also has
considerably more hop aroma, which is difficult to achieve profitably in a
fermentation and conditioning process that lasts months (instead of days or
weeks in ales).
If Old Milwaukee were priced at the same level as budmillercoorslightlitelight, it
would still stand above the crowd as a more flavorful beer. But since it is priced
as much as 35% less than those other lagers, it's a winner, hands down.
No beer tastes good out of a can, unless it is ice cold and you just finished mowing
the lawn. Then, it really doesn't taste good as much as it "feels good."
The next time you're in a market, pick up a six pack of Old Milwaukee in bottles.
Pour a cold (45°-50°) one into a clean glass and try it. You might be impressed,
and it won't cost you much if you aren't. I was impressed. So much so that when I
buy beer, it's usually Old Mil.
I still prefer the beer I brew over all others. But sometimes, I want something
other than a full bodied, hoppy pale ale measuring 5-7% ABV.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:37am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1113 of 1135)
But sherrie, I'm already doing 12 of those 15 things.......:--)
No. 15 is pretty funny, by the way.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 09:43am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1114 of 1135)
David Luckie: As a brewer and patriot (you, not me), I respect your opinions on
beer. I'm impressed by your evaluation of Old Milwaukee.
Maybe we should revise our evaluation and make Budweiser the crappiest beer in
America.
I used to think Corona ("La cerveza mas fina") was the best beer in the world. But
I've gotten a couple of skunky six-packs recently, and I'm gun-shy about buying
foreign beer now.
I've been drinking Leinenkugel's lately. That's got to be one of the top 10 beers
in the world.
"Incontinence Hotline...Can you hold, please?" [SherrieG] - 09:44am
Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1115 of 1135)
1. Why did the man cross the road? He heard that the chicken was a slut.
2. Why don't women blink during foreplay? They don't have time.
3. Why does it take 1 million sperm to fertilize 1 egg? They won't stop for
directions.
4. Why did God put men on earth? Because a vibrator can't mow the lawn.
5. Why don't women have men's brains? Because they don't have penises to put
them in.
6. What do electric trains and breasts have in common? They're intended for
children, but it's the men who usually end up playing with them.
7. Why do men masturbate? It's sex with someone they love.
8. Why were men given larger brains than dogs? So they won't hump women's
legs at cocktail parties.
9. Why did God make men before women? You need a rough draft before you have
a final copy.
10. How many men does it take to put the toilet seat down? Nobody knows, it hasn't
happened yet.
11. Why do men become smarter during sex? Because they are plugged into a
genius.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 10:09am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1116 of 1135)
"Let's not forget, Mel, that the due process of law was underway when Koresh's
followers opened up on the ATF agents at the door attempting serve a search
warrant. Do you remember that four agents died that day?"
Exactly true, and the feds had crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's in obtaining
the search warrant. They had probable cause to search the compound. Setting
aside the philosophical, constitutional and ideological argument over the
existence of the laws regulating the firearms being searched for, the feds had
sufficient evidence that a crime may have been committed.
"And there is compelling evidence that the Davidians set the fires in the midst of
the ill-advised FBI assault on the compound."
There is compelling evidence that, as I understand, was offered by the feds but
which has not been cross-examined by independent experts. The feds make a
convincing case that the Davidians burned the place, but so far, that's only
because they are the ones providing and analyzing the evidence. I believe there
is a lot more information that we have not seen.
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 10:32am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1117 of 1135)
DaveGin DaveGin
My whole participation in this discussion, which is inappropriate for this thread,
was inspired by Sherrie's comment in #1083 that David Koresh got what he
deserved. I object to excusing a horror like Waco because someone is of the
opinion that a person involved is guilty of a crime for which he has never been
tried and convicted. David Koresh is no hero in my eyes, but if the rule of law is
ignored for a few, then is worthless for all in the long run. This is my last word
on this subject on this thread.
More importantly, Dave, you may have realized that the world has been slightly
off-kilter since Sherrie and I celebrated together the departure of a particularly
obnoxious poster. Feeling the need to "make the world right again" I had to
challenge Sherrie's comments. Life, now, can return to normalcy.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 10:37am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1118 of 1135)
GW,
I think the contempt for Old Mil, and the dominance of budmillercoors in the US
beer market, are both due to a combination of two factors: consumers not having
tasted the alternatives and a successful advertising campaign by the
megabrewers to convince Americans that budmillercoors is what beer "should
taste like."
Most megabrews are flavor free. They have little malt flavor because of the use
of corn and rice (listed as "cereal grains" on the label). These have less
noticeable flavors because they ferment more completely than all malt brews.
Malt has a number of complex sugars and proteins in it. The yeast we use to
ferment beer can't break down all of the complex sugars, thus leaving a residual
sweetness in the final product. The proteins are what lend the body, character
and mouthfeel to beer. Because of less sweetness and less body, the megabrewers
must use less bitter and less aromatic hops to gain balance. Old Milwaukee still
falls within this class of beers--it is not an all-malt beer and it does not have
much hop character. But it does have more of a malty flavor and more hop aroma
than the other members of the class.
I've never had the pleasure to enjoy a Leinenkugel, but I understand that it is a
worthy brew. I've also never had the pleasure of a Belle's, a Michigan microbrew
that some people say is the best brewery in the country.
My favorite ales are Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Anchor Liberty Ale and Pete's
Wicked Ale (a brown ale). The beer I brew most often is very close to the Sierra.
My favorite lagers are all imported pilseners: Pilsener Urquell and Staropramen
from the Czech Republic, and Grolsch. Well, almost all. I also like Anchor Steam,
which is a beer fermented like an ale but conditioned like a lager.
My favorite specialty is Celis White, a Belgian White Ale brewed by a Texas micro.
I can't get it here--I have to either drink Blue Moon White (a not-too-close
approximation) or smuggle the Celis.
[TomBurt] - 10:51am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1119 of 1135)
Luckieboy,
They have a new pale ale specialty brew down at the brewery. I think its the best
pale ale the've made so far. Try Duval (sp?) some time. It's really expensive, sold
in a 24 oz bottle I think, with a resealing cap like a Grolsch, I think it's Dutch,
pretty good stuff.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 10:59am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1120 of 1135)
The ultimate responsibility for the Waco burning children tragedy is the Chief
Executive. He took NO responsibilty.
Cowardly!
[TomBurt] - 11:06am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1121 of 1135)
Bill,
Remember when that Aircraft carrier ran aground a few years back, I think it
was in San Fran. The skipper didn't have the watch and was asleep in his cabin.
After the dust settled he went straight to a desk job the reasoning being, even if
he wasn't on duty at the time, he was responsible for the actions of the men
under his command. As you said, the ultimate responsibility lies with the
Commander in Chief.
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 11:18am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1122 of 1135)
Foreign beers
David: Urquell Pilsener from the Czech Republic is one of many fine beers
brewed abroad. The problem is that many of them are stored and shipped
carelessly, and by the time you drink them, they can be skunky.
I've never had a skunky German or Canadian beer, though, and that includes
Beck's, St. Pauli Girl, Labatt's, Molson, Moose Head, and others.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:33am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1123 of 1135)
Exactly Tom...Thanks for the support.
[TomBurt] - 11:40am Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1124 of 1135)
GW,
I don't know nearly as much on the subject as David, but I think the color of the
bottles can effect how long they keep, if they are exposed to sunlight. I believe
all the brands you mentioned as never being skunky use dark bottles. What kind
of bottle is Urquell Pilsner in?
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 11:42am Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1125 of 1135)
About Beer......Got Hinano? It is from Tahiti......may not be available most places?
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 12:22pm Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1126 of 1135)
Tom,
Thanks for the heads up on that pale ale. Hope they have some left by the time I
can get down there and quaff one. We can't get Duval here, either. Max beer
container size here is 16-oz.
You're also right about bottle color. Amber or brown is best, green is second
worst, clear is dead last. There are unstable compounds in beer that form
mercaptone when exposed to light. Mercaptone is the active ingredient in skunk
spray. Mercaptone formation can happen in as little as 1 minute with some beers.
That said, those clear Corona bottles are about the thickest, strongest bottles you
can find. I have two cases of'em, and use'em when I know I'm going to carbonate
the beer heavily (bottle bombs with some thinner bottles). I just store them in a
closet or wrap them in foil if they need to travel.
Ray: My kitchen is so small if you cussed a cat in it, you'd get hair in
your mouth [wardaddy] - 12:39pm Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1127 of 1135)
Beer?
GW, have you tried any of the Japanese beers? Asahi, Kirin, and Nippon are great
beers. You can taste the hops in them and they are terrific. Watch out for Nippon
though. It's a 10% alcohol beer.
Carta Blanca is a delicious beer, too, Corona's not too bad. Watch out for El Sol,
though. It will make you speak in tongues. Stuff is made with sugar cane.
Brazil has some wonderful beers, too. I was in Recife for Christmas, 1960 and
drank some of the most delicious coffee and beer while I was there. Don't
remember the names of any of the beers, though.
The worst beer that I ever drank while on that cruise, SOLANT AMITY I, was in a
communist nation in west Africa. Two of the three beers available came from
Czechoslovakia and East Germany. The local brew I wouldn't slop hogs with.
English beer sucks. Their porter is terrific, however.
GUINESS!
Drank some wonderful German lagers while I was in Oslo in 1956.
The Norwegians make some great Pilseners.
Bill Russell--Retired, Secret Service [Bill Russell] - 12:51pm Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1128 of 1135)
Japanese Beers.....Wonderful, but expensive!
Ray: My kitchen is so small if you cussed a cat in it, you'd get hair in
your mouth [wardaddy] - 12:52pm Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1129 of 1135)
Unquestionably Qualified
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The following are excerpts taken from actual resumes and cover letters.
1. "I demand a salary commiserate with my extensive experience."
2. "I have lurnt Word Perfect 6.0 computor and spreasheet progroms."
3. "Received a plague for Salesperson of the Year."
4. "Wholly responsible for two (2) failed financial institutions."
5. "Reason for leaving last job: maturity leave."
6. "Failed bar exam with relatively high grades."
7. "It's best for employers that I not work with people."
8. "Let's meet, so you can 'ooh' and 'aah' over my experience."
9. "You will want me to be Head Honcho in no time."
10. "Am a perfectionist and rarely if if ever forget details."
11. "I was working for my mom until she decided to move."
12. "Marital status: single. Unmarried. Unengaged. Uninvolved. No commitments."
13. "I have an excellent track record, although I am not a horse."
14. "I am loyal to my employer at all costs.... Please feel free to respond to my
resume on my office voice mail."
15. "I have become completely paranoid, trusting completely no one and
absolutely nothing."
16. "My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in
meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage."
17. "I procrastinate, especially when the task is unpleasant."
18. "Personal interests: donating blood. Fourteen gallons so far."
19. "As indicted, I have over five years of analyzing investments."
20. "Instrumental in ruining entire operation for a Midwest chain store."
21. "Note: Please don't misconstrue my 14 jobs as 'job-hopping'. I have never quit
a job."
22. "Marital status: often. Children: various."
23. "Reason for leaving last job: They insisted that all employees get to work by
8:45 am every morning. I couldn't work under those conditions."
24. "The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers."
25. "Finished eighth in my class of ten."
26. "References: none. I've left a path of destruction behind me."
[At least they were honest!]
Melanie [Hush Puppy] - 12:53pm Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1130 of 1135)
Sake bomber....better than beer, if I remember correctly!
That warm and fuzzy Republican: [G. Washington] - 01:32pm Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1131 of 1135)
Ray: Pretty funny stuff, those excerpts from resumes.
Card-carrying member of the VRWC, [LuckieBoy] - 01:50pm Aug 6, 1998
EST (#1132 of 1135)
Speaking of speaking in tongues, I came across this recipe, but I just don't know
if I can bring myself to brew it:
Cock Ale </shudder>
I like the Japanese beers too, Ray.
But I disagree about English beer. Those beers built the British Empire! I'm fond
of Bass and Newcastle. Did you know that almost all of the breweries in Britain
are now owned by the Guiness company?
[treich] - 02:04pm Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1133 of 1135)
Hey Dave.
Have you ever considered having a "Daves Thread of the day" where you pick a
topic and let everyone just kind go with it?
[fionn] - 08:29pm Aug 6, 1998 EST (#1135 of 1135)
dunite - Koresh had a compound near here before moving to Texas. He married
the girl legally. In CA a girl can get married at 14 with parental or court
permission. I believe in some states (and not necessarily down south) that the
legal age is 12 with permission.
DaveGin - Why did the Feds plow under the compound before the Texas
authorities get a chance to investigate?? Were they trying to hide something??
